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[LeGold]

Am I more likely to have a tax liability on an international sale?

No, it is always the recipient who is responsible for inbound duties.
Except for when the receiving country has an executive order saying that the receiving postal service needs to collect the duties from the sender (and there is exactly one such country).

 

[LowerBama1714]

No, it is always the recipient who is responsible for inbound duties.
Except for when the receiving country has an executive order saying that the receiving postal service needs to collect the duties from the sender (and there is exactly one such country).

 

[dizzyChipper]

Sending a RACK to Canada.

USPS flat rate small box is $32.66

UPS ground is about $20 but:
“UPS may charge your recipient brokerage fees.Learn more”. So maybe it won’t be?

Anybody want to advise on best way to send a rack from USA to Canada?

 

[dennis63]

I don't think the "CON-US only" thing is directed at Canada. And I'm glad your government makes it easy and convenient for you to ship to the U.S.

I ship internationally all the time. I can say with certainty that the paperwork -- at least on this end -- is time-consuming, confusing and even risky.

The U.S. government speaks "government speak," which has only a passing similarity to English. You can spend quite a bit of time trying to figure out how to fill out the customs form. The "explanation" can be pages long and is worse than the form itself. Screw it up, and it says right on it that there's a $10,000 fine and jail time. That alone would make people say, "Screw it. CON US only."

After the paperwork is done, there's extra work and time involved in international packages. They can't be simply dropped off at a post office. They need to be handed in person to a clerk with all the paperwork after you stand in a long line of people who've never ever visited a post office. The USPS counter clerk will undoubtedly tell you that you got something wrong. Then it's time to re-do the paperwork and hope you go back to the same clerk, because a different clerk will tell you that you had it right the first time and send you away again.

Then there are requests from buyers to falsify the customs form to save them the VAT. But don't worry. You "probably" won't get caught.

The shipping cost can be different than what you thought. So you get a shipping quote online and share that with the buyer. But when you put the package together and actually buy the label, shipping costs more. This is very common. With a domestic package, the difference is usually small. With an international package, it can be a very big difference.

There is some level of increased risk with international shipments.

That said, Canada is the safest country in the world for shipping, and Canada's postal service is more reliable and less abusive of the packages than their American counterparts. (Unless I've known you here for a long time, I won't ship anything to the Netherlands. You might be "Poppin92" in disguise.)

I've gotten some flak here for posting things like this in the past, but I can assure you, everything you see above has happened to me many times.

 

[dizzyChipper]

"Screw it. CON US only."

Me exactly. For @TripleRangeMerger I'm catching and releasing 1 rack for the modest loss of inbound shipping to me. I'm fully committed to getting him this rack, this time, as now I'm invested and sunk cost fallacy prevailing. BUT the experience hardly has me switching future posts away from CONUS only.

 

[foreverdev]

Sending a RACK to Canada.

USPS flat rate small box is $32.66

UPS ground is about $20 but:
“UPS may charge your recipient brokerage fees.Learn more”. So maybe it won’t be?

Anybody want to advise on best way to send a rack from USA to Canada?

UPS charges a flat rate + % of declared value (which is BRUTAL!!)
FedEx is better but similar.

The best method is either:
-ship 1 rack via UPS declared as a 20$ gift
-ship CONUS to Shippsy warehouse that is closest to you. My local warehouse is Sanborn NY - they charge 9$~ plus tax to bring it over the border and have it ready in a warehouse in a major city. You’ve gotta make your own declaration and provide invoice (I use an online invoice generator, and declare the value in such a way about the same as dice chips. You can pick it up or have it shipped to you inside Canada. I paid about 30$CAD total on 800+ chips. About 13$CAD for a rack usually.

 

[ChippinUp]

Who knows. If your president gets what he wants Canada may one day be part of the “CON US” only anyways…

 

[dizzyChipper]

Who knows. If your president gets what he wants Canada may one day be part of the “CON US” only anyways…

"Free shipping CONUS+PEI+Greenland"

 

[Rakrul]

+Iceland

 

[elPadroni]

I haven't shipped any chips internationally. But shipped plenty of patches per my previous hobby. If the buyer is willing to pay for the extra $$ to ship to them directly, then that's totally fine. I'll spend the extra couple minutes to fill out a Customs form. Never lost a package shipping to Canada, England, Singapore.

 

[cpac54]

I‘ve shipped and received triple-digit numbers of packages internationally here in Switzerland. Never had an issue outside of a rare delay.

Whatever you do though, please don’t make me think about how much I’ve paid in customs & import duties along the way…

 

[warewulf]

I usually write in the ad that it's US only shipping. Though if someone offers me money to ship international, I'd only refuse if it was a small package and not worth dealing with the post office.

So if you see and ad that says US only, OFFER THEM MONEY. Many like money! You might get turned down on day 1. As their ad sits, they may change their mind.

 

[Jp74]

Shipping to Canada is easy in my experience when canada post is running but I do try and keep it in a package that will fit in a padded flat rate envelope and under 4 lbs fully packaged. The 3 mins it takes to fill out the form shouldn’t be a deterrent for anyone. But to each their own. Now when Canada post was on strike and I looked at fedex cost they were nearly double at the time. Not sure if those rates are better/worse now.

 

[Kam]

This is a new one for me.

Got a free chanman sample felt on Jan 24th from Canada into US. Very nice btw, highly recommend. Anyways- I received this invoice on Jan 28th from UPS for… $10 brokerage charge, discounted to $3:

Bonkers.

 

[ChippinUp]

Well I just ordered 15 racks from Justin. Made the mistake of having them sent directly to Canada. Never again.

The cost for shipping alone to Canada was $37 plus the $42 for the racks.

I just got a notice from ups saying I owe an additional $42cdn in duties. That almost the cost of the racks. Absolutely ridiculous.

 

[bergs]

Americans who don't want to sell internationally are idiots.

CONUS FOREVER!

ps there are many many many reasons that we are fucking idiots. the fact we won’t sell items overseas with no real tangible way to hold bad actors accountable is not one of them.

 

[TripleRangeMerger]

Well I just ordered 15 racks from Justin. Made the mistake of having them sent directly to Canada. Never again.

The cost for shipping alone to Canada was $37 plus the $42 for the racks.

I just got a notice from ups saying I owe an additional $42cdn in duties. That almost the cost of the racks. Absolutely ridiculous.

This is sort of neither here nor there for this thread, but I just get these racks off Amazon since it usually comes out cheaper. There's no consistent seller, but you can usually find someone selling them for $6-7 CAD/rack, that also has an ongoing promo. Here are 16 racks for <$100 CAD including shipping in Southern Ontario.

Link to the above listing (doesn't really matter since the exact listing page/promo will be gone within a week): https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B0GL5TQR8P

Same deal for 43mm racks (they're actually even cheaper than 39mm racks right now from this seller, if you're buying 20): https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B0FRZQZKWG) . The buying page usually factors in import fees also, so no surprises there. You usually have to wait 2-3 weeks to get them (I know it's longer in the above, but delivery is often much faster or you can pay like $5 to expedite it).

I have no idea how these compare to actual Justin racks in terms of plastic clarity etc but it's a lot less headache for me ,and I'm happy with the price and the racks themselves.

 

[raynmanas]

for me, it was pure laziness. i hate dealing with transactions in the post office, so if i couldn't do it all online and just drop off a flat rate box ready to go, i wasn't interested in the extra hassle. and for a while, i was not able to prepare international shipments at all on usps.com.

but the last time i shipped internationally, i was able to set it up completely at usps.com, so i no longer care as much. flat rate is still easier and preferred though.