I've done it
What advice would you give your inexperienced poker self!? (1 Viewer)
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I have also seen it done before. Two players bluffing each other with high card. Amazing.I've done it
bergs
Royal Flush
Learn bet sizing, practice being aggressive, and be respectful of position.
BooRayUSA
Pair
1. Play within you budget and what you can afford to lose And no more
2. Ace rag is not a good starting hand
3. Learn to play position but be prepared to fold
4. Fold often
5. Play nuts agressive and don't let other play cheap if you have good hand, bet it
6. Fold often
2. Ace rag is not a good starting hand
3. Learn to play position but be prepared to fold
4. Fold often
5. Play nuts agressive and don't let other play cheap if you have good hand, bet it
6. Fold often
Bet sizing is my current learning point. I'm always unsure of what a good size bet looks like in relation to my position, stack, the pot, and more importantly my holding. I'm slowly getting there, but I get foggy when at the table.
Certainly only play with what I'm prepared to lose. I usually fold most hand (I'm quite a tight player). I don't play aggressive enough when I have a strong hand, and that's probably because the place I play is full of loose people who think nothing of raising out of position with 56
Chicken Rob
Full House
If you're struggling with bet sizing, try betting 2/3 pot. This gives poor odds for draws, and is big enough for value. You'll learn to adjust as you see how your player pool responds to this.
ChipEnvy
Full House
Go play, learn from and try to hang with Jerome in AC.
Michael Bohling
Sitting Out
advice I'd give to myself would be to learn PLO first
JFCJ
Full House
Patience... Can't force it.
So, three weeks on and what have I learned?
Last night was the first time I felt like the advice was finally setting in and paying dividends. For those who don't know there's a casino in town that I'll frequent maybe once or twice a week. They host daily tournaments ranging from free to enter up to around £60 entry. All with a re buy or re entry option. I usually play the Tuesday £5 and Thursday free entry.
I've been taking on board the advice and putting it into practice with mixed success, until last night. I had noticed I was getting closer and closer to the final table. Usually there are around 50+ entrants so not that many and I was usually busting around position 30-40.
After this thread I was busting around position 10-20 and last night I finished 3rd after growing a huge stack. At the final table I think I managed to acquire over half the chips in play when down to the final 6 (6 positions paid).
I bullied the drunks to the point they would fold on their BBs at any raise. I showed a lot of my strong hands (I got a lot of good hands) so got a good TAG rep at the tables and played my position well. Folding out of position more, raising in position and with premium cards. Even post flop my game improved immeasurably, by being aggressive, c-betting and generally being more aware of the types of players and ranges they'd play with and my hand strength and position.
So I guess the update is just to say thanks again for the excellent feedback here. I am not getting carried away at all, but I am more confident in my decision making and feel my game has improved so much already with just a few simple tips. I've also bought all the books suggested so will keep reading the theory around the game.
Hand of the night: I wasn't involved by AA all in called by AK. Flop: KKK
Game over and good night.
Last night was the first time I felt like the advice was finally setting in and paying dividends. For those who don't know there's a casino in town that I'll frequent maybe once or twice a week. They host daily tournaments ranging from free to enter up to around £60 entry. All with a re buy or re entry option. I usually play the Tuesday £5 and Thursday free entry.
I've been taking on board the advice and putting it into practice with mixed success, until last night. I had noticed I was getting closer and closer to the final table. Usually there are around 50+ entrants so not that many and I was usually busting around position 30-40.
After this thread I was busting around position 10-20 and last night I finished 3rd after growing a huge stack. At the final table I think I managed to acquire over half the chips in play when down to the final 6 (6 positions paid).
I bullied the drunks to the point they would fold on their BBs at any raise. I showed a lot of my strong hands (I got a lot of good hands) so got a good TAG rep at the tables and played my position well. Folding out of position more, raising in position and with premium cards. Even post flop my game improved immeasurably, by being aggressive, c-betting and generally being more aware of the types of players and ranges they'd play with and my hand strength and position.
So I guess the update is just to say thanks again for the excellent feedback here. I am not getting carried away at all, but I am more confident in my decision making and feel my game has improved so much already with just a few simple tips. I've also bought all the books suggested so will keep reading the theory around the game.
Hand of the night: I wasn't involved by AA all in called by AK. Flop: KKK
Game over and good night.
GrumpyCatMalaka
Two Pair
Advice to self "Stop playing every suited hand"
BukNaked36
Straight
2/3 is a good number.
When playing a lot online, I remember doing some math on flush or str8 draws and came up with the following:
flop bet - 3/4 pot
turn bet - 2/3 pot
river bet - 1/2 pot
Also if I'm looking to reraise, I'm typically going around 3X the amount bet ahead of me.
Anthony Martino
Royal Flush
note to inexperienced poker self: Do not play in the 1/1 Circus game at Meatups without:
1. Having at least $5,000 of disposable income for the trip
2. Having the left-most seat and position on every single player at the table
1. Having at least $5,000 of disposable income for the trip
2. Having the left-most seat and position on every single player at the table
chipjoker
Flush
^^Totally this....
Sprinsd
Flush
Never play cards with a guy who has the same first name as a city... - Coach Bobby Finstock
"Never play cards with a man called Doc. Never eat at a place called Mom's. Never sleep with a woman whose troubles are worse than your own." -- Nelson Algren
ohio3302016
Flush
All right, here's the thing. You only play premium hands. You only start with jacks or better split, nines or better wired, three high cards to a flush. If it's good enough to call, you gotta be in there raising, all right? I mean, tight, but aggressive. And I do mean aggressive. That's your style, Adam. I mean, you gotta... you gotta think of it as a war.
Sounds vaguely familiar. Mike McDermott, is that you?
[emoji14]
ohio3302016
Flush
I'm sorry John. I don't remember.
Ha, this sounds like me against the drunk. He was so pissed off that I always raised him off his BB. To the point he would get quite aggressive. It felt like, war! And we won!
Four months on and if it's even possible, I think I've regressed. I don't know if I'm just trying to overplay, or catch my opponent out but I've been making stupid calls, stupid plays and have generally overcomplicated the game.
My biggest problem is my reluctance to lay a hand down. I really need to work on this, but the problem I have is a) PokerStars, the tards I play against just call with everything if they have any piece of the board and in good ol' PkerStars fashion they'll usually come good, and b) the casino I play at is full of LAGtards and calling stations so I really have no idea how to play against them. It has cost me, and looking back I can see the mistakes but at the time I don't know why I find it hard to lay a hand down.
Do you just believe everyone to have the nuts when they re-raise you? It's really frustrating. How do you play against LAGs and calling stations?
My biggest problem is my reluctance to lay a hand down. I really need to work on this, but the problem I have is a) PokerStars, the tards I play against just call with everything if they have any piece of the board and in good ol' PkerStars fashion they'll usually come good, and b) the casino I play at is full of LAGtards and calling stations so I really have no idea how to play against them. It has cost me, and looking back I can see the mistakes but at the time I don't know why I find it hard to lay a hand down.
Do you just believe everyone to have the nuts when they re-raise you? It's really frustrating. How do you play against LAGs and calling stations?
Anthony Martino
Royal Flush
Call LAG's down with more medium-strength holdings if they're prone to excessive bluffing, and value-town the shit out of calling stations when you've got the goods (and when they've got the goods they'll come out betting, when a station bets, they have it, believe them)
ChipEnvy
Full House
So I would change my answer. If I could go back and tell myself anything, it would be to play more golf and less poker.
More specifically to your dilemma, stop looking at other things as the issue. It isn't the players you are playing against or the software you are playing on. It's you. I think that's the hardest and most productive part of any person's poker playing career.
In general you need to play the style that is the opposite that of the table you are at. So against LAG's play much tighter. Against calling stations, punish them when you have it, and don't try to bluff. The theory is easy, implementing it correctly is the tough part.
More specifically to your dilemma, stop looking at other things as the issue. It isn't the players you are playing against or the software you are playing on. It's you. I think that's the hardest and most productive part of any person's poker playing career.
In general you need to play the style that is the opposite that of the table you are at. So against LAG's play much tighter. Against calling stations, punish them when you have it, and don't try to bluff. The theory is easy, implementing it correctly is the tough part.
Adam Crowley
Two Pair
My advice. Don't read poker books, they are really outdated and generally incorrect. Sure they were the foundation of poker, but the game has evolved a lot since then, mainly due to having better tools available to solve the game.
If you want to get better for cheap jump on twitch and watch some of the better streamers. Jason Sommerville, Tonkaaaa and Jamie Staples all play tournaments and are all winning players. My recommendation is to listen to what they say about why they make their decisions and if you don't agree / understand why they made a play post a question on the forum to better understand the concepts.
Another peice to advice that helped me a lot was, approach poker from the aspect of improving every day, rather than trying to win all the money. This approach makes the game more fun and sets my mind up to realise my mistakes and think about different ways to play hands.
Finally start out by simplifying a really complex situation.
Everyone at the table has a strategy for how they play hands (even if they don't know it).
Everyone has a range of hands they are playing in every position. The more experience you get, the better you get at approximating ranges based on the incompelte information available to you.
Once you know a players strategy, and their approximate ranges, you develop your range as a best response the their strategy.
The better you get at all of the above the more you win at poker.
If you want to get better for cheap jump on twitch and watch some of the better streamers. Jason Sommerville, Tonkaaaa and Jamie Staples all play tournaments and are all winning players. My recommendation is to listen to what they say about why they make their decisions and if you don't agree / understand why they made a play post a question on the forum to better understand the concepts.
Another peice to advice that helped me a lot was, approach poker from the aspect of improving every day, rather than trying to win all the money. This approach makes the game more fun and sets my mind up to realise my mistakes and think about different ways to play hands.
Finally start out by simplifying a really complex situation.
Everyone at the table has a strategy for how they play hands (even if they don't know it).
Everyone has a range of hands they are playing in every position. The more experience you get, the better you get at approximating ranges based on the incompelte information available to you.
Once you know a players strategy, and their approximate ranges, you develop your range as a best response the their strategy.
The better you get at all of the above the more you win at poker.
ushallnotraise
Two Pair
Bluff less.
This is great advice, and had I known Dan advocates against bluffing, maybe I wouldn't have dropped like $250 to him because I didn't put him on the top of his range every time he bet. But I digress. [emoji3]
Seriously though, until you get your confidence up, play a little nitty and bet winning hands. You likely won't go up $1000+ in a session, but you won't lose a ton either. Of course you will lose to inferior hands on occasion, but shake that off. Not sure what to bet? Throw out 2/3 of the pot. It minimizes people trying to bluff you, while also building winning pots nicely. You'll leave some money on the table, but you aren't as focused on win rate right now. If you can walk away from a few consecutive sessions up $50, it will be a success.
One of the biggest keys to success in poker is learning to fold second best. Don't chase straights if there are flush draws out there. Understand that sometimes KK and AA don't have showdown value and should have been mucked on the turn. Of course it blows to lay down good cards, but once you learn to analyze the play of your opponents (and what hands they are tabling), this will become easier.
Of course this advice doesn't work perfectly in all scenarios, but it should allow you to gain an edge on club players and $1/$2 casino donks.
RainmanTrail
Straight Flush
My advice would be (in no particular order):
1 - Exercise patience, be more selective as it takes more experience to play mediocre hands profitably.
2 - Don't assume everyone is bluffing. Most players never bluff. Only a few do, and they usually can't help themselves from it.
3 - Racially profile your opponents. Of course, I'm not advocating that you judge anyone based on race, as I'm not a bigot, but do understand that different cultures have different approaches to gambling. This will help you more than you might think. It will also help you to understand how your opponents think. If you don't know how to do this, talk strategy with your poker friends from different cultural upbringings.
4 - Pay attention to board texture. If you don't know what that is, then study it until you do
5 - Did I mention board texture? Ya... study it again
6 - Exercise bankroll management. Don't know where to start? Head to two-plus-two and study it...
7 - Young online poker pros are MUCH better than most TV pros (trust me, I've played with almost all of them). If you want to improve your game, find out who is worth studying, and read everything they have to share. Then, read it again. (two-plus-two is a good place to start)
8 - Watch instructional videos online (shameless plug for my videos on pokerstrategy.com if you want to work on your mixed games)
9 - Review EVERY SESSION you play online. Find your mistakes and track them. Attempt to minimize mistakes. Watch them go down over time. Celebrate when they do.
10 - Move up in stakes when your bankroll supports the decision, assuming it comes from poker winnings that is. You can create bad habits if you don't.
11 - Learn to identify good, winning players. If you're at a table where most/all of the players are better than you, it's time to pick up your chips. This is not the time to learn.
12 - Figure out which games you're good at, and play those (MTTs, STTs, LHE, NLHE, PLO, O8, Stud, etc).
... I gotta run, but that's a start. Good luck!
1 - Exercise patience, be more selective as it takes more experience to play mediocre hands profitably.
2 - Don't assume everyone is bluffing. Most players never bluff. Only a few do, and they usually can't help themselves from it.
3 - Racially profile your opponents. Of course, I'm not advocating that you judge anyone based on race, as I'm not a bigot, but do understand that different cultures have different approaches to gambling. This will help you more than you might think. It will also help you to understand how your opponents think. If you don't know how to do this, talk strategy with your poker friends from different cultural upbringings.
4 - Pay attention to board texture. If you don't know what that is, then study it until you do
5 - Did I mention board texture? Ya... study it again
6 - Exercise bankroll management. Don't know where to start? Head to two-plus-two and study it...
7 - Young online poker pros are MUCH better than most TV pros (trust me, I've played with almost all of them). If you want to improve your game, find out who is worth studying, and read everything they have to share. Then, read it again. (two-plus-two is a good place to start)
8 - Watch instructional videos online (shameless plug for my videos on pokerstrategy.com if you want to work on your mixed games)
9 - Review EVERY SESSION you play online. Find your mistakes and track them. Attempt to minimize mistakes. Watch them go down over time. Celebrate when they do.
10 - Move up in stakes when your bankroll supports the decision, assuming it comes from poker winnings that is. You can create bad habits if you don't.
11 - Learn to identify good, winning players. If you're at a table where most/all of the players are better than you, it's time to pick up your chips. This is not the time to learn.
12 - Figure out which games you're good at, and play those (MTTs, STTs, LHE, NLHE, PLO, O8, Stud, etc).
... I gotta run, but that's a start. Good luck!
keshaldra
High Hand
1- Fundamentals first: pot odds, position, etc.
1b - Use those fundamentals to see how they apply to all kinds of poker, not just hold 'em
2- Don't bluff
3- Bankroll management
1b - Use those fundamentals to see how they apply to all kinds of poker, not just hold 'em
2- Don't bluff
3- Bankroll management
Mr Tree
Straight Flush
You make money off of others mistakes much more so than executing a "genius" play.
Practice the fundamentals
Practice the fundamentals
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