Tourney T10,000 Tournament structure (4 Viewers)

[dwalk021]

Just looking for any advice on how to improve my home tournaments. I do starting stacks of 10,000 which allows 40 buy-ins comfortably. I use 2 tables but have a third available if we reach over 18 players. Every buy-in gets one bounty chip. I typically make the first 3 rounds last 2 hours, then break for 20 minutes and end rebuys. Rounds are 20 minutes starting at round 4, with a short 5 minute break after round 6 to chip up. We won’t break again until we reach a final table, 9 remaining players. I reseat the final table randomly with the button starting at chip leader.

Available Chips:
T50– 300
T100– 300
T500– 300
T1000– 225
T5000– 75
T10000– 10 (plaques)
BOUNTY— 50

Starting Stacks:
T50– 10
T100– 10
T500– 9
T1000– 4
(30 buy-ins)

T1000– 10
(10 buy-ins)

Blind Structure:
50/100
100/150
150/200
BREAK— End of Rebuy (chip up 50s)
200/400
300/600
500/1000/200
BREAK (chipup 100s)
(Next BREAK at 9 players)
1000/2000/500
1500/3000/500
2000/4000/1000
3000/6000/2000
5000/10000/2000

 

[Craig D]

Well I would not recommend 50 and 100 chip be used at the same time, But if that is what you own make the best of it

You don't need antes, use a structure that never doubles except maybe the second level

Using different length blind levels is an advanced move, and should only be highly skilled tournament directors who have really good reason to do it

Re-buys, Add-ons, make it harder to predict how long your tourney will run, the rule of thumb is 10 big blinds plus or minus 2 levels

If I had your chip this is the blinds I would use:

50-100 100-200 150-300 250-500

Break re-buys end chip up 50s

400-800 600-1200 800-1600 1000-2000 1500-3000

Break chip up the 100s and 500s

2000-4000 3000-6000 4000-8000 6000-12000 8000-16000

Break chip up the 1000s

10000-20000 15000-30000 20000-30000 20000-40000 30000-60000 40000-80000

Blind length is up to you, 20 minutes is good, a little shorter is fine, longer is better

Number of players at each table is 6-8 max, you get about one hand every 2 minutes, and ideally is shouldn't keep going up on the same player

Have Fun

 

[JustinInMN]

Well I would not recommend 50 and 100 chip be used at the same time, But if that is what you own make the best of i

I get this is not ideal but it's hardly a show stopper.

Blind Structure:
50/100
100/150
150/200
BREAK— End of Rebuy (chip up 50s)
200/400
300/600
500/1000/200
BREAK (chipup 100s)
(Next BREAK at 9 players)
1000/2000/500
1500/3000/500
2000/4000/1000
3000/6000/2000
5000/10000/2000

Looking at the first few levels this isn't much different than I would do with a base 25.

I would start 50-100, 75-150, 100-200, so all you have changed here is 100-150 for level 2 instead. That works fine.

My only concern about this is the structure gets pretty fast in the middle.

I might smooth out the middle doing this from level 6.

400-800
Break (no color up)

400-800, a100
600-1200, a100
800-1600, a200
Break (no color up)

1000-2000, a200
1500-3000, a300
2000-4000, a400
Break (color up 100)

3000-6000, a500
4000-8000, a1000
6000-12000, a1000
Break (color up 500)

8k-16k, a2k
10k-20k, a2k
15k-30k, a3k

Just a thought

 

[dwalk021]

I get this is not ideal but it's hardly a show stopper.



Looking at the first few levels this isn't much different than I would do with a base 25.

I would start 50-100, 75-150, 100-200, so all you have changed here is 100-150 for level 2 instead. That works fine.

My only concern about this is the structure gets pretty fast in the middle.

I might smooth out the middle doing this from level 6.

400-800
Break (no color up)

400-800, a100
600-1200, a100
800-1600, a200
Break (no color up)

1000-2000, a200
1500-3000, a300
2000-4000, a400
Break (color up 100)

3000-6000, a500
4000-8000, a1000
6000-12000, a1000
Break (color up 500)

8k-16k, a2k
10k-20k, a2k
15k-30k, a3k

Just a thought

Appreciate the feedback

I get this is not ideal but it's hardly a show stopper.



Looking at the first few levels this isn't much different than I would do with a base 25.

I would start 50-100, 75-150, 100-200, so all you have changed here is 100-150 for level 2 instead. That works fine.

My only concern about this is the structure gets pretty fast in the middle.

I might smooth out the middle doing this from level 6.

400-800
Break (no color up)

400-800, a100
600-1200, a100
800-1600, a200
Break (no color up)

1000-2000, a200
1500-3000, a300
2000-4000, a400
Break (color up 100)

3000-6000, a500
4000-8000, a1000
6000-12000, a1000
Break (color up 500)

8k-16k, a2k
10k-20k, a2k
15k-30k, a3k

Just a thought

Appreciate the feedback

Well I would not recommend 50 and 100 chip be used at the same time, But if that is what you own make the best of it

You don't need antes, use a structure that never doubles except maybe the second level

Using different length blind levels is an advanced move, and should only be highly skilled tournament directors who have really good reason to do it

Re-buys, Add-ons, make it harder to predict how long your tourney will run, the rule of thumb is 10 big blinds plus or minus 2 levels

If I had your chip this is the blinds I would use:

50-100 100-200 150-300 250-500

Break re-buys end chip up 50s

400-800 600-1200 800-1600 1000-2000 1500-3000

Break chip up the 100s and 500s

2000-4000 3000-6000 4000-8000 6000-12000 8000-16000

Break chip up the 1000s

10000-20000 15000-30000 20000-30000 20000-40000 30000-60000 40000-80000

Blind length is up to you, 20 minutes is good, a little shorter is fine, longer is better

Number of players at each table is 6-8 max, you get about one hand every 2 minutes, and ideally is shouldn't keep going up on the same player

Have Fun

Appreciate the feedback

Well I would not recommend 50 and 100 chip be used at the same time, But if that is what you own make the best of it

You don't need antes, use a structure that never doubles except maybe the second level

Using different length blind levels is an advanced move, and should only be highly skilled tournament directors who have really good reason to do it

Re-buys, Add-ons, make it harder to predict how long your tourney will run, the rule of thumb is 10 big blinds plus or minus 2 levels

If I had your chip this is the blinds I would use:

50-100 100-200 150-300 250-500

Break re-buys end chip up 50s

400-800 600-1200 800-1600 1000-2000 1500-3000

Break chip up the 100s and 500s

2000-4000 3000-6000 4000-8000 6000-12000 8000-16000

Break chip up the 1000s

10000-20000 15000-30000 20000-30000 20000-40000 30000-60000 40000-80000

Blind length is up to you, 20 minutes is good, a little shorter is fine, longer is better

Number of players at each table is 6-8 max, you get about one hand every 2 minutes, and ideally is shouldn't keep going up on the same player

Have Fun

Would you recommend three tables of 6 when I reach 18 players? Or can I stick with two tables of 9?

 

[Deucekies]

I'm guessing the reason you have antes is you want to keep as many chips in play for as long as possible. If that's the case, you've certainly come to the right community.

But if that's not your line of thinking, consider eliminating the antes or go with a big blind ante. Much easier to run the game without constantly reminding people to put their antes out.

 

[JustinInMN]

Appreciate the feedback


Appreciate the feedback

Appreciate the feedback


Would you recommend three tables of 6 when I reach 18 players? Or can I stick with two tables of 9?

FEwer tables are easier to manage. So I would suggest sticking with two if possible.

 

[LotsOfChips]

Would you recommend three tables of 6 when I reach 18 players? Or can I stick with two tables of 9?

You are presumably talking about reaching 18 players starting, not reaching 18 players after a few busts.

Starting with three tables of 6 makes breaking the tables a bit awkward (IMO). Do you go down to 2 tables at 16 (only 2 busts)? 14? 12?. That means you are playing with no more than 5 and as few as 4 players per table (at some tables) prior to breaking the tables. That is pretty small for early/mid tournament play (again IMO).

I prefer to keep the tables as full as possible early in the tournament, so consider aiming to fill the tables at 9 per table (seeing your final table threshold is 9). If you can increase your player pool a little bit to 21, then 3 tables of 7 is fine (24 players and 3 tables of 8 is even better!). Having odd numbers (19 or 20) players means only 6 at one or two tables, which might be okay for a while at the start of the tournament, before breaking down to 2 tables at 18 after one or two busts.

Breaking down to the final table at 9 still leaves 5 players per table before breaking, but this is usually much closer to the end of the tournament, when small tables are more common.

Caveat, I'm not a professional tournament director. YMMV

 

[JustinInMN]

Also, FWIW, PCF's @Chris Manzoni has a great YouTube channel for hosting advice, watch all 3 of these when you are able.

Tournament Seating:

Tournament Structure: (Though given your set differs a bit, and I think you are getting good advice in this thread)

Coloring Up:

 

[Jaxen]

Hey @dwalk021 you're getting some great advice here. 3 tables of 6 or 2 of 9 are both fine depending on your preference. We have a short-handed 6-max tourney we do that would be 3 of 6, but we shoot for 2 of 9 depending on who's hosting and the size of their tables.
And ... where in Philly? I'm originally from Bridesburg in the Northeast, blocks from the Betsy Ross Bridge. I could be to Frankford & Cottman in 10 minutes.