SunFly OASIS Sample Set Official Review Thread (3 Viewers)

[BearMetal]

This thread is for those who have received sample sets of the new SunFly OASIS chips. As reviews are posted, I will update the original post here with a short list of links to those reviews. I have posted a template that you can copy and use below so that we can try to get consistent reviews in every member's post.

I am happy to make adjustments to this template before reviews come in. If there's something I missed or is unclear, just let me know.

Review Shortcuts

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• @Irish's Review
• @mugenpowr's Review
• @BearMetal's Review
• @FestiveKnight's Review
• @RichMahogany's Review
• @PlaidDragon's Review
• @GreekRedEye's Review

Instructions

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Ratings in this table are on a scale of 0 to 10 with 0 being the worst and 10 being the best. This is completely subjective and the table is only for your rating. There are notes below the table where you can elaborate on your rating, if necessary.

• Label Print Clarity: How good the label looks (not your opinion of artwork necessarily). This is to gauge how the label looks in various lighting situations and whether fine text is readable
• Sound: The way the chips sound to you. This can be either when they hit the table, when they are splashed, when they are shuffled, etc.
• Feel (Texture): How do the chips feel in your hands? Are they slippery? Are they gritty? Are they wonderful?
• Shuffle Smoothness: Do they shuffle well?
• Colors (Variety): Do you feel the injection mold and/or dye sublimation of the chip offers enough variety of colors?
• Colors (Appeal): Do you like the colors being offered? Do they work together in your opinion? Are they drab?
• Edge Spots: Are the edge spots to your liking? Is there enough variety?

Start out by coping after the below "Template Copy Begin" text. If you are NOT reviewing a particular chip, you can just put a dash (-) in the rows for its ratings. If there is a chip you are comparing it to which is not in the table, swap out the last column. In the "Review" section you can write a free-form review where you explain your ratings. There is a template there that you can copy/paste for each chip you wanted to explain.

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0-10 Table Ratings

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​	SunFly OASIS​	SunFly PolyInno​	Matsui Zen​	Matsui WSOP​	Abbiati Park Place​	Bud Jones V7​	Tina (Specify Mold)
Label Print Clarity	-​	-​	-​	-​	-​	-​	-​
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Feel (Texture)	-​	-​	-​	-​	-​	-​	-​
Shuffle Smoothness	-​	-​	-​	-​	-​	-​	-​
Colors (Variety)	-​	-​	-​	-​	-​	-​	-​
Colors (Appeal)	-​	-​	-​	-​	-​	-​	-​
Edge Spots	-​	-​	-​	-​	-​	-​	-​

Review

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Sunfly OASIS Summary
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Would I Buy A Set
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SunFly OASIS Pictures / Comparison Images
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[TX_Golf_N_Poker]

To be clear, I LOVE this! I'm a nerd too.

 

[Irish]

After a few days handling the chips, here are my thoughts on the new SunFly OASIS offering.

Cliffs: if you want a high end classy plastic chip with nice bright colors, squared edges and a heavy feel, but without the thuddish sound and softer feel that come with something like an Abbiati or Matsui, this is a chip you should definitely consider.

Sound: so as nuts as this may sound, these sound pretty close to clay chips. We had them out on the table last night with a stack of Matsuis, Abbiatis, Paulsons and CPCs (jockey); when you closed your eyes and just listened, they were almost indistinguishable with the CPCs. A hair deeper of a sound, but very close. Nothing like the hollow thuddish clack you get from a Matsui, Abbiati or Bud Jones chip. Distinctly different. If you really Iisten, you can here the influence from the insert, but it’s subtle.

Feel: Substantial They’re definitely heavy and weighty in hand. The composite material has a matte linen finish with just a bit of texture. Similar to Matsui with just a bit more texture (directly comparing vs old school Zens and horseshoe world poker series). In stacks, they’re a bit slippery. I don’t think it would be a big issues with stacks sitting in front of you, but if grabbed a barrel of 20 by the base and pushed it forward into the pot, the stack is likely falling over. You’d want to put out a stack by grabbing it from the top. Slightly less slippery than Matsuis, but more so than Abbiati.

Shuffle: these shuffle like butter, very enjoyable. The edges are between the rounded corners of an Abbiati and the sharp corners of a Matsui. I have trouble shuffling Matsuis; these shuffle with little effort and aren’t so slippery that they fall out of place when I’m not really paying attention.

Mold: beautiful and crisp line work on both the face and edges, no color bleeding whatsoever. I personally don’t care for the goofy incomplete zeros used for the font cast into the mold, but I know those are used in all these style of chips and there’s probably a production reason for them

Colors: very vibrant and rich, slightly more so in comparison to the their hybrids. In comparison to my Abbiati Park Place samples, some colors like the yellow lean a hair towards a greenish tint, not quite as warm and rich. But they’re close, and definitely better than any of the hybrids or ceramics I own. And @p5woody came up with some awesome color combinations for this style of lineup, kudos Woody.

Label: These came with the matte finish label, which is easily the worst part of the chip. As others have noted, the texture is way too pronounced, any view angle and light practically obscures the label. Matsui and Abbiati definitely have the upper hand here. These will be offered with glossy labels as well, I have hybrids with those and they’re much better. However if I could encourage SunFly to source a different matte label, I think it would go a long way to improving the lineup. A nice linen matte finished label would complete the feel of these perfectly. Printing on the label is very crisp and rich and again @p5woody did a very nice job with creating a classy casino style inlay that should appeal to many.

Edit to add: pic for some color comparisons, noting this is obviously not a direct color comparison.

 

[detroitdad]

After a few days handling the chips, here are my thoughts on the new SunFly OASIS offering.

Cliffs: if you want a high end classy plastic chip with nice bright colors, squared edges and a heavy feel, but without the thuddish sound and softer feel that come with something like an Abbiati or Matsui, this is a chip you should definitely consider.

Sound: so as nuts as this may sound, these sound pretty close to clay chips. We had them out on the table last night with a stack of Matsuis, Abbiatis, Paulsons and CPCs (jockey); when you closed your eyes and just listened, they were almost indistinguishable with the CPCs. A hair deeper of a sound, but very close. Nothing like the hollow thuddish clack you get from a Matsui, Abbiati or Bud Jones chip. Distinctly different. If you really Iisten, you can here the influence from the insert, but it’s subtle.

Feel: Substantial They’re definitely heavy and weighty in hand. The composite material has a matte linen finish with just a bit of texture. Similar to Matsui with just a bit more texture (directly comparing vs old school Zens and horseshoe world poker series). In stacks, they’re a bit slippery. I don’t think it would be a big issues with stacks sitting in front of you, but if grabbed a barrel of 20 by the base and pushed it forward into the pot, the stack is likely falling over. You’d want to put out a stack by grabbing it from the top. Slightly less slippery than Matsuis, but more so than Abbiati.

Shuffle: these shuffle like butter, very enjoyable. The edges are between the rounded corners of an Abbiati and the sharp corners of a Matsui. I have trouble shuffling Matsuis; these shuffle with little effort and aren’t so slippery that they fall out of place when I’m not really paying attention.

Mold: beautiful and crisp line work on both the face and edges, no color bleeding whatsoever. I personally don’t care for the goofy incomplete zeros used for the font cast into the mold, but I know those are used in all these style of chips and there’s probably a production reason for them

Colors: very vibrant and rich, slightly more so in comparison to the their hybrids. In comparison to my Abbiati Park Place samples, some colors like the yellow lean a hair towards a greenish tint, not quite as warm and rich. But they’re close, and definitely better than any of the hybrids or ceramics I own. And @p5woody came up with some awesome color combinations for this style of lineup, kudos Woody.

Label: These came with the matte finish label, which is easily the worst part of the chip. As others have noted, the texture is way too pronounced, any view angle and light practically obscures the label. Matsui and Abbiati definitely have the upper hand here. These will be offered with glossy labels as well, I have hybrids with those and they’re much better. However if I could encourage SunFly to source a different matte label, I think it would go a long way to improving the lineup. A nice linen matte finished label would complete the feel of these perfectly. Printing on the label is very crisp and rich and again @p5woody did a very nice job with creating a classy casino style inlay that should appeal to many.

Perfect review. I concur completely.

 

[CraigT78]

After a few days handling the chips, here are my thoughts on the new SunFly OASIS offering.

Cliffs: if you want a high end classy plastic chip with nice bright colors, squared edges and a heavy feel, but without the thuddish sound and softer feel that come with something like an Abbiati or Matsui, this is a chip you should definitely consider.

Sound: so as nuts as this may sound, these sound pretty close to clay chips. We had them out on the table last night with a stack of Matsuis, Abbiatis, Paulsons and CPCs (jockey); when you closed your eyes and just listened, they were almost indistinguishable with the CPCs. A hair deeper of a sound, but very close. Nothing like the hollow thuddish clack you get from a Matsui, Abbiati or Bud Jones chip. Distinctly different. If you really Iisten, you can here the influence from the insert, but it’s subtle.

Feel: Substantial They’re definitely heavy and weighty in hand. The composite material has a matte linen finish with just a bit of texture. Similar to Matsui with just a bit more texture (directly comparing vs old school Zens and horseshoe world poker series). In stacks, they’re a bit slippery. I don’t think it would be a big issues with stacks sitting in front of you, but if grabbed a barrel of 20 by the base and pushed it forward into the pot, the stack is likely falling over. You’d want to put out a stack by grabbing it from the top. Slightly less slippery than Matsuis, but more so than Abbiati.

Shuffle: these shuffle like butter, very enjoyable. The edges are between the rounded corners of an Abbiati and the sharp corners of a Matsui. I have trouble shuffling Matsuis; these shuffle with little effort and aren’t so slippery that they fall out of place when I’m not really paying attention.

Mold: beautiful and crisp line work on both the face and edges, no color bleeding whatsoever. I personally don’t care for the goofy incomplete zeros used for the font cast into the mold, but I know those are used in all these style of chips and there’s probably a production reason for them

Colors: very vibrant and rich, slightly more so in comparison to the their hybrids. In comparison to my Abbiati Park Place samples, some colors like the yellow lean a hair towards a greenish tint, not quite as warm and rich. But they’re close, and definitely better than any of the hybrids or ceramics I own. And @p5woody came up with some awesome color combinations for this style of lineup, kudos Woody.

Label: These came with the matte finish label, which is easily the worst part of the chip. As others have noted, the texture is way too pronounced, any view angle and light practically obscures the label. Matsui and Abbiati definitely have the upper hand here. These will be offered with glossy labels as well, I have hybrids with those and they’re much better. However if I could encourage SunFly to source a different matte label, I think it would go a long way to improving the lineup. A nice linen matte finished label would complete the feel of these perfectly. Printing on the label is very crisp and rich and again @p5woody did a very nice job with creating a classy casino style inlay that should appeal to many.

Edit to add: pic for some color comparisons, noting this is obviously not a direct color comparison.

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Great review.

I second the sound and shuffle comments. These have become a favorite to shuffle when I'm on calls that should have been an email. They feel and sound great.

 

[BigSlick4523]

they almost sound like my BCC chips when shuffled

 

[SUN-FLY Poker Chips]

First off, let me say THANK YOU SIR for such a great review!

but if grabbed a barrel of 20 by the base and pushed it forward into the pot, the stack is likely falling over. You’d want to put out a stack by grabbing it from the top. Slightly less slippery than Matsuis, but more so than Abbiati.

This is down to the mold surface treatment, we will defintely take this into our consideration in our future molds.

I personally don’t care for the goofy incomplete zeros used for the font cast into the mold, but I know those are used in all these style of chips and there’s probably a production reason for them

You are correct; it is a production requirement. We cannot have a closed-loop symbol on these types of chips. If you examine the other chips with the dollar sign, you'll notice that the straight line of the dollar sign "$" does not pass through the "S"; there must be an open area left.

Label: These came with the matte finish label, which is easily the worst part of the chip.

Noted. We are going to remove this option from our offerings. Research and development for a new matte label will be on our agenda.

 

[Irish]

Noted. We are going to remove this option from our offerings. Research and development for a new matte label will be on our agenda.

IMHO that would be a wise business decision. Aside from appeasing a bunch of chip nerds, finding a label material that’s visible at multiple view angles with direct overhead lighting is very important to casinos and card rooms for their “eye in the sky”

Good luck with the project, I think you’ve got a good viable product in the works here.

 

[SUN-FLY Poker Chips]

IMHO that would be a wise business decision. Aside from appeasing a bunch of chip nerds, finding a label material that’s visible at multiple view angles with direct overhead lighting is very important to casinos and card rooms for their “eye in the sky”

Good luck with the project, I think you’ve got a good viable product in the works here.

Thank you, along with many others in this community, for raising concerns about our matte decals. User experience is a significant consideration for us in the development of new products. During this particular development phase, we aimed to align the matte decals with the OASIS chip design concept - inspired by the desert and oasis. Consequently, we sought a visually rugged decal's to complement this theme. However, we overlooked the examination of this new decal's visibility from different lighting angles. To be candid, even from a position approximately thirty degrees from strong light, I personally experienced challenges in clearly discerning the face value and design pattern on the front, conducted as an experiment following your feedback.

However, I wanted to clarify that the decal issue raised is unrelated to the work of OASIS designer Steve @p5woody . It is SUN-FLY's responsibility to ensure the quality of the decals, and find the necessary components that fit the theme. Steve has done an outstanding job in designing, and beyond providing the design files, the remaining responsibilities lie with SUN-FLY.

In response to the issue with the matte decals, I have communicated your feedback to my management. Following their review, the decision has been made to dispose of the raw materials for this particular kind of matte decals. I can assure you that this kind of matte decals will no longer be offered as an option in this GB as well as any other orders in the future. (they are gone forever, I assure... which is sad... for me...that means $20K out of my wallet...just a joke...)

I kindly request understanding from our community members as SUN-FLY's decals are self-produced, not manufactured through large printing factories using the OFF-SET PRINTING equipment. Consequently, the search for new matte materials will take some time. Therefore, this SUN-FLY OASIS GB will exclusively provide glossy decals.

 

[SUN-FLY Poker Chips]

Guys, write your comments...I should not be the one to speak in this thread...

 

[BearMetal]

Guys, write your comments...I should not be the one to speak in this thread...

I think many of us are still waiting for the samples or, having received them, are waiting a few days to actually write a review. One thing I've found with Pollyinno chips is that they get slippery from hand oils "faster" then other plastics. (It's purely subjective, I have no idea if they just feel different with hand oils or what, so let's not dwell on the "faster" part). So I like to wait at least a few days with shuffling at my desk to see if there's a big enough difference in feel before I post a review of these new chips.

But I think it's totally fine for you to post here. It shows us that you really take this community's opinions seriously. I happen to love my customized prestige set, and I've been waiting for another SunFly GB!

 

[RichMahogany]

My samples should arrive Thursday

 

[SUN-FLY Poker Chips]

I think many of us are still waiting for the samples or, having received them, are waiting a few days to actually write a review.

You're right , I'm too nervous to get the feedbacks. But please, state your own opinion in this thread.

One thing I've found with Pollyinno chips is that they get slippery from hand oils "faster" then other plastics. (It's purely subjective, I have no idea if they just feel different with hand oils or what, so let's not dwell on the "faster" part). So I like to wait at least a few days with shuffling at my desk to see if there's a big enough difference in feel before I post a review of these new chips.

Regarding the ceramic chip issue, kindly reach out to me via PM or send an email to Susie, as this pertains to a separate topic. Our testing approach for ceramic chips may differ.

 

[detroitdad]

As most of you know. I have never been a fan of the Sun Fly chips. Actually, I have never been a fan of any of the hybrid/china clay chips. They always felt cheap and insignificant to me.

This chip has changed my mind. I would even consider owning a set. This doesn't mean that they are without their flaws. As a hybrid goes, these are fun!

The feel and sound of them is closer to a plastic chip than a traditional sun fly chip. What I mean is, there is a light "thud" when tossing them into the pot. I like that sound.

As with most plastic/ceramic/hybrid chips. They are still a touch slippery. In my limited experience with hybrid/china clay chips. This model seems to be less slippery than most. I did side by side tests with my BR Pro Duke Silver poker chips. They are close in comparison. They are still a little more slippery than my ceramics. Just barely.

I only have the base yellow chip. The colors of this chip really pop. They are as vibrant as you would hope for. I "LOVE" how they pop.

The design goes without saying. I love what Steve did with these. It can be tough to come up with something when you are designing it for the masses. Steve did it again. Well done sir.

The biggest thing that I don't like about the chip is the textured inlay. I think the texture takes away from the design. When the light hits the inlay, it makes it difficult to see. At least with the lighting on my table. I will try and get some pictures of it tomorrow.

If there is interest. I can try and make a few short videos with pot splashing, shuffling, ect... The problem with this is I have no idea on how to upload them here. If someone wants to help with this. I can text you the video, and you can post it. Send me a PM if you are interested in assisting.

Bill

Here the review I wrote for the "Almost ready" thread.

 

[mugenpowr]

	Matsui Zen	Matsui WSOP	Abbiati Park Place	SunFly OASIS	Tina (Greek Mold Hybrid)
Label Print Clarity	10	10	-	10	10
Sound	7	8	-	9	7
Feel (Texture)	6	9	-	9	8
Shuffle Smoothness	6	8	-	8	7
Colors (Variety)	7	8	-	9	7
Colors (Appeal)	7	8	-	9	8
Edge Spots	7	8	-	9	8

Review

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Sound: The chips have a sound similar to clay chips, which confirms what Irish found in his review.

Feel: They feel heavy and weighty in hand, with a matte linen finish and slight texture, although they may be slightly slippery in stacks.

Shuffle: The chips shuffle effortlessly with no issues for a plastic chip.

Mold: The injection mold features crisp line work with no color bleeding. Well done.

Colors: The colors are vibrant and rich compared to the Matsui's Zens and WSOP

Label: The matte finish label may be the least impressive aspect, with a pronounced texture that can obscure the label. However, this won't be an issue going forward (only glossy labels will be offered in the upcoming group buy).

Overall, the SunFly OASIS chips offer a high-end, classy casino-grade chip option with various desirable features.

 

[BearMetal]

@mugenpowr thanks so much for your review. You gave the OASIS labels a 10/10 even though we know there are issues with the matte finish and they won't be offered. Can you clarify what your 10 rating means? My sample set only had matte labels.

 

[mugenpowr]

@mugenpowr thanks so much for your review. You gave the OASIS labels a 10/10 even though we know there are issues with the matte finish and they won't be offered. Can you clarify what your 10 rating means? My sample set only had matte labels.

Let me clarify. The 10/10 is for the label print quality, not the texture and finish.

 

[Sparkynutz]

Guys, write your comments...I should not be the one to speak in this thread...

It was nice to know the feedback has been heard and implemented unlike so much everywhere else around us.

Many of us have not directly spoke up yet but have many of same sentiments already mentioned in a more detailed manner than we would have.
Very well said by previous reviews.
Unfortunately I don't have as much to add.
Well done chips!

I like them more than-
Tropicana Evensville because of the better colors and very slightly rounded corners.
Crown mold Casino Royale chips because the mold just kinda suck.
I like the denom in molding.

I slightly prefer the denom molding Casino Royale over the Oasis due to labels and more rounded edges.
(I am probably a minority that likes that)
But the quality and flashing etc on these is not up to snuff compared to oasis so they are probably almost even because of that.

Compared to my Emerald Bay set I like the slightly rounded edges on the Oasis better but prefer the plasticy sound and colors of the Emerald bays better.

My all time favorite chip so far is still my Aura Casino due to sound and nice rounded edges. The labels kinda suck on these tho.
Can't have it all I guess.

Hope that's better and a more critical review than I previously had up.

 

[Sparkynutz]

oops. wrong window.
Deleted.

 

[BearMetal]

0-10 Table Ratings

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​	SunFly OASIS​	SunFly PolyInno​	Matsui Zen​	Matsui WSOP​	Abbiati Park Place​	Bud Jones V7​	Tina (No Mold)
Label Print Clarity	8​	8​	9​	10​	9​	10​	9​
Sound	7​	6​	9​	9​	8​	7​	6​
Feel (Texture)	8​	7​	8​	9​	8​	7​	6​
Shuffle Smoothness	9​	8​	9​	10​	8​	4​	9​
Colors (Variety)	10​	8​	7​	9​	9​	8​	10​
Colors (Appeal)	6​	8​	8​	8​	9​	8​	10​
Edge Spots	6​	7​	9​	10​	9​	9​	10​

Review

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Sunfly OASIS Summary
The OASIS chips fare surprisingly well against other plastics and dye subs. Although the lighting in my poker room doesn't highlight the deficiencies of the matte label as much as it does for others, I am glad they are not going to sell it. I believe that their print quality on a glossy label will be just as good if not better. Head-on, the chips are very easy to read.

I personally am not the biggest fan of their sound, but they don't make me wince like some other plastics do. I do prefer a more soul-sucking thud personally, which is why Matsui gets the win from me in the sound department.

The edge spots are kind of where things fall apart for me. I love the overall pattern chosen, but the fact that it repeats on all of the chips and never varies is disappointing. On the Park Place and Matsui sets, the patterns do change for a few of the denoms. However, I couldn't put my finger on what was really bothering me about them, and then it hit me: I do not like the fact that the injection molded spot has the chip base color in the middle. Perhaps it makes it look cheaper to me.

Compare the T1 to the PP $1 - the PP $1 does not have the white base color as part of the spot on the face of the chip:

Another potential issue I can see is that I am not the biggest fan of the selected colors for a cash set. The T5 and T25 are just not my favorite color combinations. And the fact that the denomination is on the mold makes it impossible to swap out chips. I do like a T100 base tournament lineup though. If I were to rank the colors of the chips (and this is 100% subjective, duh), it would be what I have below in the image table. Comparing some like-colors, the OASIS chips feel a little bland; like the colors don't jump out at me.

With that said, there's a lot to really like here. The edges themselves are far superior to the PolyInno edges. Doing chip flips and shuffles was a breeze. They were not slippery at all. 40mm is also a very interesting size. It gives you a little more oomph than 39mm but without the dedication to go full-on big boy 43mm.

Would I Buy A Set
YES and NO. About $1 a chip is a great price, especially if they can be semi-custom with the label text changing. I am not sure what the final price will be, but it's hard to pass on that unless the chips really has some kind of deficiency. One of the biggest holdbacks for me is that I'm just not in love with the colors for a cash set. So it would most likely have to be tournament, and even then, it would have to be T100 base and I my WSOPs already fill that spot.

But here's the rub; if you don't already have Prestige or Park Place or Zen or WSOP ... if all you have is Tina, then there are a step up in a lot of ways. It doesn't get you fully customized, but it does give you a very nice chip for the money.

SunFly OASIS Pictures / Comparison Images
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SunFly OASIS vs Abbiati Park Place
Full disclosure, I think the Abbiati chips are my favorite plastics. The one and only issue I have with them is the dot pattern on the side can "bleed". It was reported by every member in the group buy and Abbiati basically gave us the finger. For $3+ a chip, I guess that's the last Abbiati GB we're ever going to do.

Now that we're past that, I feel the Park Place chips crush the OASIS chips in all but 1 category: amount of available colors. However, where Park Place goes light on colors-in-your-face, the colors they have picked are done so well, that it doesn't even matter. The combinations work and I love them for it.

The OASIS chips do keep up well in sound, texture, shuffling, etc ... but Park Place edges them out. And, although they do offer more colors, I just don't like the combos enough on more than a few chips.

Edge spots - here we go again - the Park Place chips edge spots are just awesome. I love them. They are smaller than that of the OASIS chips, but they look higher quality and I can only surmise it's because of the above issue where the OASIS chips duplicate the base color in the pattern.

SunFly OASIS vs SunFly PolyInno (Prestige)
SunFly, you done good here! I vastly prefer this new chip that the OASIS is on to the original PolyInno chips I have. They sound better, they feel better, they shuffle better. The rolling edge is NOT SLIPPERY AT ALL - THAT's A HUGE BONUS OVER POLYINNO. But when it comes to edge spots, it's not a fair fight. They are very different, so even though I might prefer what you did with the Prestige chips, I acknowledge it's not apples-to-apples.

But, the problem comes back to what was chosen for this particular chip. I was able to modify not only the text, but also the denomination in the Prestige Group Buy. That was a huge win. Since the OASIS color combos chosen for some of the chips are not my favorite, I'm kinda stuck sucking it up or not building a set. And, again, this is PURELY MY SUBJECTIVE opinion. Others WILL differ.

 

[BPTDirector]

Well I just received my sample set and to say I am underwhelmed would be pretty accurate. I think the overall composition is harder than Abbiati, B&G, about equal to Matsui. Slippery about equal to my 43mm Matsui chips but not so slick as my Matsui 39mm. Colors are where these chips shine, bright and vibrant. I’m not real fond of the combinations but that’s personal preference. Edge spots are well defined again some color combos are a little circus like for me. As stated before the label printing is sharp but obscured by the texture when looking at them at an angle. Weight is very substantial, but like B&G chips a little heavy for my liking.

Overall impression - a good effort by SunFly just not in line with my tastes. I will not be purchasing a set but feel they will be well received by our general population of chippers who like plastics. I rank them slightly below Abbiati, even with B&G in composition, and an equal competitor to Matsui. I will make my sample set available to whomever is next in line.

 

[SUN-FLY Poker Chips]

Thank you for sharing these thoughts, whether they are positive or negative. SUN-FLY maintain an open-minded attitude to listen., specially thans to @BearMetal and @Sparkynutz and @Irish for writing the reviews. I am looking forward to hearing more from you guys.

 

[FestiveKnight]

After taking a few days to handle the sample here are some thoughts. Thank you so much @SUN-FLY Poker Chips and @p5woody for making these available, being so transparent about the offering and so responsive on feedback. Amazing to see from a large professional vendor.

Ratings in this table are on a scale of 0 to 10 with 0 being the worst and 10 being the best. This is completely subjective and the table is only for your rating. There are notes below the table where you can elaborate on your rating, if necessary.

• Label Print Clarity: Excited to see glossy labels. Agree with what others have said, the texture is terrible on these. Colors/printing is good though.
• Sound: Sound is nice. It doesn’t blow me away. A stack of them sounds very nice together and good thud tossing a chip on the felt. 6/10
• Feel (Texture): Good, not great. Smooth but individual chips are not too slippery. A tad plasticy in a may that I like a rougher chipco more but these feel 6.5/10.
• Shuffle Smoothness: shuffle very well. 9/10
• Colors (Variety): colors are fantastic. Blows me away.
• Colors (Appeal):
• Edge Spots: design is a bit busy for me imo. It’s a lot of colors. But it’s tough see these as a mess together as a sample vs in stacks as a set.

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Sunfly OASIS Summary
In no particular order

• These are heavy. I was surprised how heavy I found them. Shuffling them for a while (20+ min on a work call) and my wrist was actually hurting a bit.
• These are definitely very slippery when moving the whole stack. They stack nice and flat but when you go to push the pile of chips they fall over pretty easily and then they slide all over the place. Similarly, they were a bit too slippery for me when gathering up the pile after splashing them.
• The colors are very nice and very vibrant.

Two most notable points:

About half the chips in my sample have little issues with the placement of the inlays. On clay chips I wouldn't even blink twice but these are not issues I would expect with plastic chips at $1 a pop. See detailed photos below.

In the below, the inlay is slightly raised on one side and then has a little gap to the edge of the recess on the other side. The raised edge goes over the edge of the recess.

On the reverse of the same chip, the gap around the inlay is enough that it’s gotten a bit gunky after just a few days of shuffling.

Little inlay placement issues like this are on about half my sample. This is super nit picky but I noticed it very quickly. Not sure a player ever would in a game. At Tina prices I wouldn’t care. At Matsui prices I would be disappointed. Can’t decide if this is acceptable here. Because of the mechanics of the slugged chip this is going to be more likely than a ceramic like a Radisson or Crown Plaza but would be curious if others noticed this and how @SUN-FLY Poker Chips feels about this from a QC perspective.

My biggest question for @SUN-FLY Poker Chips is what you intend next for this new production method? I think @p5woody's design is perfect for mass appeal and I think in that space, these will be a very competitive offer, but for me I would be much more excited about future opportunities to customize these. This is where Tina has managed to have so much success and I would be very interested in these chips as the basis for something fully customized. I would understand there being a steep MOQ but making it more approachable than Matsui or Abbiati would be very compelling.

Would I Buy A Set
NO. Not right now but not because of the chip itself. Just doesn't fit something I want or need right now. But I will share with some friends not on PCF who may be interested.

SunFly OASIS vs others

The biggest thing that stood out for me in comparison to others is the profile of the edge. These are definitely more rounded that a sharp Matsui like Zens but less round than a Radisson and I prefer the more rounded profile. Same as a Crown Plaza.

I also made a textural comparison to Chipcos earlier which is obviously an extreme but I would say ceramics can have a much nicer finish. Zens have a really lovely slight linen-ness to them that these are missing for me.

 

[RichMahogany]

Brought my samples to our Saturday afternoon game this past week. We didn’t really get too much time with them as a group before the game started up. Most people’s reaction was something along the lines of “Oh cool, anyways…” which might be expected when you have racks of TRK Money Tree’s sitting in front of you.

We unfortunately didn’t have many other plastic chips on hand for a side by side comparison although there was a barrel of Bud Jones Caesars at Sea chips or whatever they’re called so my comparison to other injection molded plastics is from memory.

Are they slippery? Yup. Less so than 39mm Matsuis, Bud Jones, and Gemaco(the worst high end plastics I’ve handled) and more slippery than Abbiatti chips. To me Abbiatti have a grippy, rubbery feel that is just divine. These Sun Fly’s are more in line with the other 3 manufacturers mentioned.

Since we didn’t have them on the felt for long, didn’t get to test the shiny label issues that others have reported but looking at the labels from a side view while in my hand, can definitely see those same issues.

The print and colors of each chip are really nice although I don’t love every chip. Lowlights for me are the brown spots on the 25k and the same exact colors on 2 of the non denom chips. Not that the non denom colors aren’t nice looking, more so that 2 chips share the same colors so if you wanted a non denom limit set that could be slightly limiting.

I really do wish that the denom wasn’t injection molded into the chip itself and instead was only printed onto the label. Would make semi custom options much more viable.

As far as weight is concerned, I’m a fan of the heavier feel of these, I like the extra added heft it gives, makes them feel more substantial. I tend not to like plastic chips in general so the extra weight to me seems nice. And as previously stated, these are slippery little buggers when compared to compression clays and they’re crazy easy to shuffle. Nice and smooth.

Overall I think these are a nice addition to the chip world, it’s nice to have options.

Am I in the market for these and will I participate in the Group Buy? Maybe.
My desire to try these stems more from checking them out for a possible future custom set. I would like to try full barrels/racks of chips for a prolonged amount of time to see how they perform on the felt in multiple stacks, so maybe I’m in for a rack or two.

 

[GianThaMan]

Just received my sample, and I'm actually quite surprised. Reading all these reviews I was expecting to really be underwhelmed, having handled a lot of Matsui chips and even getting my own custom set I know pretty well how slippery they can be, but I would hesitate to say these are nearly as bad as that. They are slippery, for sure, and worse than Abbiati, BG, and BJ S2 chips, but they're not bad whatsoever. For a first attempt (and hopefully not the last) at an injection-molded chip, it could've been much worse. The feel is a bit scratchy, similar to Matsui, but they are notably weightier and more satisfying than Matsui chips tend to be.

The colors are great, and the Bud Jones V7-style spots are a nice design choice IMO, but the inner ring mold is kind of weirdly sized and placed. It also looks like it'll restrict the design of any inner ring text/design that could feasibly be custom-made. As for the spots themselves, the lack of center spot on the molds just looks worse, IMO, and before they go to launch there will certainly need to be more options. The glossy labels are really nice quality, though if a foil option was added that would just be a nice cherry on top.

I don't know what the exact price per chip of these is, but if they're anything over $1/chip, I'd be hard pressed to justify buying them, even for personal customs. If more spot options are added, the inner rings are made to be more open for customization and denominations, and the plastic is modified to be a bit less slippery, these chips would be an awesome addition to the current market of injection-molded chips, but as they are they're just meh.

 

[RagahRagah]

Got my sample set today and have to say they are fine chips. The quality is wonderful, although I can't add anything that some reviewers here haven't covered.

That said, I'm disappointed because they aren't what I'm looking for. Again, these are fantastic chips. But I was disappointed to read people saying they felt and sounded like clay and prepared myself to be let down once I got my sample set; as someone who isn't a guru like many others on this forum I wonder why someone would want plastic chips that sound and feel like clay chips. Cost efficiency is my best guess. I acquired some Abbiati because I loved the heavy plastic sound and feel to them and was looking for something similar to them or Gemaco to complete my mixed set. These are most similar to Matsui of the plastic chips I've sampled, which are my least favorite for the reasons I mentioned; a little too chalky for me. Suffice to say I won't be purchasing these and my grueling quest to find something similar to use for a T5 or 5 cent chip chip will continue to labor on, which sucks as the label, colors and edgespot designs of these are PERFECTLY suited to what I am looking for.

But again I cannot stress that the quality is outstanding and that it sounds like these are being well received. They are nice, just not a fit for me.

 

[PlaidDragon]

I received my sample today. Thx @p5woody.

As to my impressions, let's do a set of pros and cons.

Pros:

• Very vibrant colors.
• Great color design. Pretty much zero chance of dirty stacks with chips that will share the table.
• Great overall design. The chips are interesting to look at and do not appear gaudy or amateurish. Great contrast between base colors and spots.
• The glossy labels are well done and fit the overall look of the chip. The denomination is very clear and readable.
• The proposed cost of $1/chip is very reasonable considering the cost of other plastics via Abbiati and Matsui.
• Sharp edges and very flat when stacked.

Cons:

• Too dang heavy. I've never been a fan of slugged 13-14g chips. One of my worries is that they'll be too heavy for my existing cases when full. Can my old cases take 30-40% more weight given the chips they've always carried have been 9-10g? If not, it could result in the mother of all chip explosions.
• I'm probably in the minority here, but I like the somewhat rubbery feel of Abbiati's better. My players previously have been genuinely perplexed as to what composition my Abbiati's were; whereas, these most certainly look, feel, and sound like plastics.
• I only have Abbiati's to compare with but the Sunfly's are definitely slippery in comparison. They're not, by any account, "awful" but it IS a noticeable difference.
• Probably the most minor con here but: "sound". They do not sound like my clays or ceramics at all. It's a very dulled or even muffled "tink" as I stack and handle these. This is not a deal-breaker by any means.

My verdict:

I think the pros outweigh the cons here, but not by much. The price point, combined with the excellent colors and design can make for a very cool set of new chips for any who aren't willing or able to pay the premium for Paulson's and/or the hefty price per chip for brand new CPCs. They obviously cost more than the CM (tina) chips by at least double but the Sunflys seem like they'll be tougher and resist wear more than the former.

The weight is my biggest hang-up.

Right now, the plan is a multi-table, T100 based, tourney set with the brown or off-white ncv's relabeled and replacing the 100k's.

Favorite colors:

Black 100, blue 25,000, off-white ncv.

 

[p5woody]

A total of 45 sample sets were sent out but it has been pretty quiet here lately. I'm going to make a couple of comments about design choices colors, etc.

1) These were initally designed to be marketed for casino use. So I know the denomination on the chip itself provides less flexibilty when doing PCF group buys. NOTE: Pretige chips were created with PCF group buy in mind.
2) These are injected molded chips, so a new mold would need to be created for each spot pattern. So we were limited to one pattern (for now)
3) Again these are injected molded chips, so the raw material needs to be created it is not printed. So colors limited for the first offering
4) Remember these are going to be offered in the $1 range, these are being compared to chips selling for $2-3 or more.
5) I think the group buy should start next week

 

[MeridianFC]

I really do wish that the denom wasn’t injection molded into the chip itself and instead was only printed onto the label. Would make semi custom options much more viable.

With the caveat that I have not handled these, and texture/feel is a big thing for me, this was the killer for me. I initially saw the possibility for a nice semi custom set but the molded in denom kills the possibility for that. Now this is something of a double edged sword since the molded in denom is also part of the attraction. Obviously the set up required precludes changing up denoms (unless certain large MOQ are met?).

 

[JDPoker]

I've had my samples for a while now, and they're really growing on me. The colors are great and they shuffle really well. At first I was turned off by the weight, but I'm starting to appreciate the more substantial feel they have compared to say the Tina hybrids. They are a little slippery, which I don't think would be an issue in my home game, but I do not have other similar chips to compare them to. They are significantly more slippery than the similarly weighted Gemaco (Trop Evansville) chips I have, but the Oasis shuffle much more easily. I'm waiting to receive some Bud Jones samples, so we'll see how they compare to those.