Realistic? vs. Unrealistic? expectations? (1 Viewer)

[Longfoot]

I'm really new here. And, wondering if my desire is realistic or not?

Back story: Been playing with dice chips. Occasional social events, service organization club nights, monthly games group, etc, all of which my wife also enjoys. Recently moved to a new city and my wife see's the possibility of using poker to help build our new social circle. However, this results in introducing many new people to the game and both she and I see the value in having denominated chips.

The Mid story: Her hosting some new work colleagues for a poker night saw me authorized to purchase some denominated chips. Pressed by a quickly approaching date I order, not what I would want, but, what 'would do'. However, due to a phoned in change by me to the order, it ended up slipping through the retailers cracks and not shipping in time to arrive for the event and they kindly refunded my money.

So, what I thought I wanted, before discovering PCF, was to relabel what I've learned to refer to as sluggo's or china clays. But, now, I see the actual possibilities that could exist and most here seem to strongly encourage diving straight into some form of custom ceramic.

If I were to pursue custom ceramics, I would want them to be something that would last the few remaining decades of my life and so, I'm willing to make them special.

A cash set, in currency denominations from 5c to $100 and of sufficient size to host any 2 tables of spread limit from .10-$1 to $2-20. That's 11 distinct chips (screw 'efficiency' we're going for fun and easy spread limit games with newbies and casual players) and probably +/- 2000 chips.

The Question:

Is it realistic to look for a chip/graphic designer for a project that could expand to observe/reverse for that many chips? It could easily be 13-22 distinct graphics, albeit sharing common elements. And, what compensation should I expect such designer to be desiring?

Is such a project realistic? Or, as one employer once commented, "... has unrealistically high expectations of himself and those surrounding him."?

 

[KHarp1]

There are several members here that do pretty good design work, you'll probably see their work well represented here. Put a feeler out/want ad and share with them your thoughts and expectations. My experience is that most folks are eager to help around here, and, the prices asked for their services are very fair abs reasonable.

Good Luck!

 

[NotRealNameNoSir]

First off, welcome! All that is realistic and doable. We'll break it down into parts.

1. Designers love designing, we have many amazing artists. Once you have a theme or design, new denominations are 100% doable. Definitely do it.

2. 2000 chips is way more than enough for that spread. Many threads, but for two tables:

200 x nickels
400 x quarters
400 x $1s
600 x $5s
200 x $25s
200 x $100s

Like you said, this isnt efficient, but it'll cover 2 tables with both possibly running either of those spread limits. Bloated number of nickels/quarters/$1s because of the two table requirement and the big game spread, you can definitely pare down. Im pretty clueless, this is just an example of me trying to use the 2000 chips lol, read around and decide what you'll actually need.


Money wise, just talk to designers. Full disclosure I think I paid @mattross1313 $80 for these designs which I love to this day.

 

[Mojo1312]

We all have our dreams. Mine was a smoking hot babe.

Unfortunately, I had to settle for a chain smoker who won't let me set the thermostat below 80 degrees.

 

[Thomacetti]

Just the limit set should be close to 2000 for a single table...

 

[Longfoot]

Just the limit set should be close to 2000 for a single table...

Yep.

I should have made the +/- bold, italic and underlined.

By my simple math, 1600 would be the minimum for any 1 spread limit/ 10 player table within those betting limit bounds. 3100 should allow any 2 duplicate tables of the same. The any 2, 10 player, non duplicate would be somewhere in between, I haven't put that in a spreadsheet, yet. But, yeh. It'll be a lot of chips for one or two micro to small stakes tables. Down right silly. But fun.

 

[Thomacetti]

Yep.

I should have made the +/- bold, italic and underlined.

By my simple math, 1600 would be the minimum for any 1 spread limit/ 10 player table within those betting limit bounds. 3100 should allow any 2 duplicate tables of the same. The any 2, 10 player, non duplicate would be somewhere in between, I haven't put that in a spreadsheet, yet. But, yeh. It'll be a lot of chips for one or two micro to small stakes tables. Down right silly. But fun.

Don't 'limit' yourself to denoms for limit...non denom is the way

 

[Longfoot]

We all have our dreams. Mine was a smoking hot babe.


Unfortunately, I had to settle for a chain smoker who won't let me set the thermostat below 80 degrees.

I have a dream......

Don't 'limit' yourself to denoms for limit...non denom is the way

Remember, it's the denoms that are eliciting the support wifey Longfoot.

If I were to present a custom set of non-denominated chips, to replace our current non denominated chips, to wifey Longfoot I guarantee I would receive a seriously cross look.

 

[Longfoot]

There are several members here that do pretty good design work, you'll probably see their work well represented here. Put a feeler out/want ad and share with them your thoughts and expectations. My experience is that most folks are eager to help around here, and, the prices asked for their services are very fair abs reasonable.

Good Luck!

First off, welcome! All that is realistic and doable. We'll break it down into parts.

1. Designers love designing, we have many amazing artists. Once you have a theme or design, new denominations are 100% doable. Definitely do it.

So, is this the correct sub-forum to post a "designer wanted" thread, with my general or detailed brief? Or, is there a better location for such?

 

[KHarp1]

I'm not sure. Here, Mockup and Design, Labeling.

 

[Natskule]

I'm really new here. And, wondering if my desire is realistic or not?

Back story: Been playing with dice chips. Occasional social events, service organization club nights, monthly games group, etc, all of which my wife also enjoys. Recently moved to a new city and my wife see's the possibility of using poker to help build our new social circle. However, this results in introducing many new people to the game and both she and I see the value in having denominated chips.

The Mid story: Her hosting some new work colleagues for a poker night saw me authorized to purchase some denominated chips. Pressed by a quickly approaching date I order, not what I would want, but, what 'would do'. However, due to a phoned in change by me to the order, it ended up slipping through the retailers cracks and not shipping in time to arrive for the event and they kindly refunded my money.

So, what I thought I wanted, before discovering PCF, was to relabel what I've learned to refer to as sluggo's or china clays. But, now, I see the actual possibilities that could exist and most here seem to strongly encourage diving straight into some form of custom ceramic.

If I were to pursue custom ceramics, I would want them to be something that would last the few remaining decades of my life and so, I'm willing to make them special.

A cash set, in currency denominations from 5c to $100 and of sufficient size to host any 2 tables of spread limit from .10-$1 to $2-20. That's 11 distinct chips (screw 'efficiency' we're going for fun and easy spread limit games with newbies and casual players) and probably +/- 2000 chips.

The Question:

Is it realistic to look for a chip/graphic designer for a project that could expand to observe/reverse for that many chips? It could easily be 13-22 distinct graphics, albeit sharing common elements. And, what compensation should I expect such designer to be desiring?

Is such a project realistic? Or, as one employer once commented, "... has unrealistically high expectations of himself and those surrounding him."?

I'm not understanding the scope. I don't see the need for 2000 chips or 11 denominations.

2 tables, spread limit from dime to $20. Not limit, spread limit is variable with a cap.

nickels - 200
quarters - 300
$1 - 400
$5 - 400
$20 or $25 - 200
$100 - 100

6 denominations, 1600 chips, 12 distinct inlays (but there would be some commonality)

Maybe you are going dimes and $0.50 instead of nickels and quarters, either or, but don't need both.

Which ever way you go it will be interesting to watch the journey.

 

[Longfoot]

I'm not understanding the scope. I don't see the need for 2000 chips or 11 denominations.

2 tables, spread limit from dime to $20. Not limit, spread limit is variable with a cap.

nickels - 200
quarters - 300
$1 - 400
$5 - 400
$20 or $25 - 200
$100 - 100

6 denominations, 1600 chips, 12 distinct inlays (but there would be some commonality)

Maybe you are going dimes and $0.50 instead of nickels and quarters, either or, but don't need both.

Which ever way you go it will be interesting to watch the journey.

I can understand your confusion. And, you're not wrong. It could be done with nickels, dimes and quarters.

But,You have to think about it from a bunch of newbies perspectives and that it's not limited to .05 and $2 limits.

The games that fit within are:
.05/.10 blinds .10-.50/.20-1.00 bets
.10/.20 blinds with .20-1.00/.40 - 2.00 bets
.20/.40 or .25/.50 blinds with .... you get the picture, X10 spread
.50/$1
and $1/2 with the same spread limit

Why on earth would we want to do this to ourselves?
We will frequently have at a table: a uni student, uni lecturer, tire changer, financial adviser/investment firm partner, owner of several local businesses, retiree, etc. And, 2-4 at the table may not have played before.
No Limit doesn't work for such a wide spectrum. And, Fixed Limit see's little opportunity for bluffing or game development or learning the game, beyond showdown contests. There'll always be one who correctly raises at every opportunity and to whom that money is nearly meaningless.

So: Currency denoms, 5c, 10c, 20c, 50c, $1, $2, $5, $10, $20, $50, $100. It makes sense to people who aren't already gamblers. It's what they think in and do business, bank and invest in everyday.

Pick the highest game that the least wealthy play is happy to play. Minimum buy of 50BB, recommended 100BB, and max buy of 200BB and a one rebuy limit. It keeps everyone in the game for 2-4 hours.

So, for any one of those games, you get a few of the sb on the table, and more of the BB and max bet, with at least one denom in the middle. You'll only ever have 4 denoms on the table at one time, maybe 5.

I know. I know. (Insert Malkovich's bad russian accent) "eett's not eeefishent."

But, it works. None of our play is about taking anyone's money. And, although we occasionally toss all the buys in a pot to be distributed tourny style at the end (50/30/20) no one is getting too stressed.

This is 100% Fraternity, Fellowship and Fun. Hell, some people are wearing 19th century costumes for this.

 

[Sparkynutz]

One suggestion is to get samples and look at more sets on here as well to see what trips your trigger. That may also change with a little time so playing with a few shuffle stacks of different types of chips here and there for a few weeks may tell you something different than you thought you knew you liked.

I still want an unconventional set some day of these chips.
2c
10c
50c
$2
$10
$50

I like your idea of the huge assortment of denominations. I think it would be cool to have an unconventional set within or matching a conventional set for the times you need to switch it up depending on who is playing.
I however like too many things and don't think I'd be happy with all my eggs in one basket so I've decided to go with multiple sets of different types.
You may or may not too.
Either way, getting design help and color ideas is gonna probably make your brain hurt at all the possibilities. Good Luck!

 

[Natskule]

I can understand your confusion. And, you're not wrong. It could be done with nickels, dimes and quarters.

But,You have to think about it from a bunch of newbies perspectives and that it's not limited to .05 and $2 limits.

The games that fit within are:
.05/.10 blinds .10-.50/.20-1.00 bets
.10/.20 blinds with .20-1.00/.40 - 2.00 bets
.20/.40 or .25/.50 blinds with .... you get the picture, X10 spread
.50/$1
and $1/2 with the same spread limit

Why on earth would we want to do this to ourselves?
We will frequently have at a table: a uni student, uni lecturer, tire changer, financial adviser/investment firm partner, owner of several local businesses, retiree, etc. And, 2-4 at the table may not have played before.
No Limit doesn't work for such a wide spectrum. And, Fixed Limit see's little opportunity for bluffing or game development or learning the game, beyond showdown contests. There'll always be one who correctly raises at every opportunity and to whom that money is nearly meaningless.

So: Currency denoms, 5c, 10c, 20c, 50c, $1, $2, $5, $10, $20, $50, $100. It makes sense to people who aren't already gamblers. It's what they think in and do business, bank and invest in everyday.

Pick the highest game that the least wealthy play is happy to play. Minimum buy of 50BB, recommended 100BB, and max buy of 200BB and a one rebuy limit. It keeps everyone in the game for 2-4 hours.

So, for any one of those games, you get a few of the sb on the table, and more of the BB and max bet, with at least one denom in the middle. You'll only ever have 4 denoms on the table at one time, maybe 5.

I know. I know. (Insert Malkovich's bad russian accent) "eett's not eeefishent."

But, it works. None of our play is about taking anyone's money. And, although we occasionally toss all the buys in a pot to be distributed tourny style at the end (50/30/20) no one is getting too stressed.

This is 100% Fraternity, Fellowship and Fun. Hell, some people are wearing 19th century costumes for this.

I'm familiar with spread limit, play it on Monday's. A bit different than the way you do, not saying either is right or wrong, just different. We play $0.25 to $5, 3 raise limit spread limit. We don't have a different spread range for early vs late betting rounds. Spread limit was played in Colorado casinos for years do to the laws regulating max bets, that's where I was first introduced to it.

Spread limit is closer to NL or PL in chips used than limit. Where limit is usually played with all chips of the same value and bets are on number of chips as much as value. 1-2, 2-4, 3-6 and 4-8 being the early and late street betting. Spread limit doesn't need the large amount of one denominations to work right as the bets are variable.

Your large number of denominations don't work well together. They aren't a cohesive set, but really 2 different sets. Now suggesting that you might not want to have that many denominations is bit hypocritical of me as I'm working on a 12½¢, 50¢. $2. $10, $50 cash set, while I have several 25¢, $1, $5, $20, $100 cash set. But they don't play together, just to clunky to mix. Now this set I'm working on will play fine by itself, but everything I play with it could be done with my existing sets, (if I add a nickel). It's fun and different, but not needed.

Bottom line, get what you want and works for you, but be aware that your one big set configured with 11 denominations, is really 2 different sets that don't play well with each other and limit you flexibility and adaptability as some chips won't work depending on the base that you are playing with at the time. You will end up having a tough time running two tables at the same stake/base because you will have so much of your set tied up in chips that won't work well. But then again that is just my opinion.

 

[allforcharity]

It is completely dumb to have so many denominations in a single cash set. Even if you only play with 6 of them at a time, how easy will be to estimate people's stacks? What's in the pot? Calculate all-ins? 95% of your betting can be done with 3 denominations, saving you both time and money. From your large set, just carve out the 3 or 4 denoms that you plan to use for the stakes you play that night.

 

[Sparkynutz]

Just because you have that many for flexibility doesn't mean they all need to be used at the same time.

 

[BGinGA]

It could be done with nickels, dimes and quarters.

But,You have to think about it from a bunch of newbies perspectives and that it's not limited to .05 and $2 limits.

The games that fit within are:
.05/.10 blinds .10-.50/.20-1.00 bets
.10/.20 blinds with .20-1.00/.40 - 2.00 bets
.20/.40 or .25/.50 blinds with .... you get the picture, X10 spread
.50/$1
and $1/2 with the same spread limit

So: Currency denoms, 5c, 10c, 20c, 50c, $1, $2, $5, $10, $20, $50, $100. It makes sense to people who aren't already gamblers. It's what they think in and do business, bank and invest in everyday.

I know. I know. (Insert Malkovich's bad russian accent) "eett's not eeefishent."

But, it works.

I totally understand your reasoning, and strongly disagree with your conclusions.

Essentially, all you really need is two sets/series of denominations, depending on which game you are actively running:
~ 5c, 25c, $1, $5, $20, $100
~ 10c, 50c, $2, $10
And that second set isn't really needed at all.

Under no circumstances do you need 20c or $50 chips, nor will they improve game play in any way.

See below:

.05/.10 blinds .10-.50/.20-1.00 bets
^ uses 5c/25c/$1 chips

.10/.20 blinds with .20-1.00/.40 - 2.00 bets
^ uses 5c/25c/$1 chips

.20/.40 or .25/.50 blinds with .... you get the picture, X10 spread
25c/50c blinds with 50c-$2.50 and $1-$5 bets uses 25c/$1/5$ chips.

Games using 20c/40c blinds with 40c-$2 and 80c-$4 bets sound very unneccesary and non-intuitive, but could still use standard 5c/25c/$1/$5 denoms or 10c/50c/$2 chips.

.50/$1 (with $1-$5 and $2-$10 bets)
^ uses 25c/$1$/$5 chips

$1/2 with $2-$10 and $4-$20 bets
^ uses $1/$5/$20 chips

So, dropping the rather pointless and confusing 20c/40c blinds variant, all that is needed to run your range of events for two tables are:

200 x 5c
400 x 25c
400 x $1
400 x $5
200 x $20
100 x $100
----------------
1700 chips (and the $100 chips aren't necessary, as you can let $100 bills play if needed)

 

[Longfoot]

It is completely dumb to have so many denominations in a single cash set. Even if you only play with 6 of them at a time, how easy will be to estimate people's stacks? What's in the pot? Calculate all-ins? 95% of your betting can be done with 3 denominations, saving you both time and money. From your large set, just carve out the 3 or 4 denoms that you plan to use for the stakes you play that night.

?Your argue against, and, for, the same master set in one post?

Estimating stacks is unnecessary when playing spread limit.
Pots are easy when there's only 3 or 4 denoms in them.
All Ins aren't allowed.
"from the large set, just carve out 3 or 4" Exactly! That's the plan kemosahbee.

No need for 2 or 3 sets to cover micro, lo, medium stakes.
One Set To Rule Them All.
Just carve out what you need tonight.

 

[Longfoot]

I'm familiar with spread limit, play it on Monday's. A bit different than the way you do, not saying either is right or wrong, just different. We play $0.25 to $5, 3 raise limit spread limit. We don't have a different spread range for early vs late betting rounds. Spread limit was played in Colorado casinos for years do to the laws regulating max bets, that's where I was first introduced to it.

Spread limit is closer to NL or PL in chips used than limit. Where limit is usually played with all chips of the same value and bets are on number of chips as much as value. 1-2, 2-4, 3-6 and 4-8 being the early and late street betting. Spread limit doesn't need the large amount of one denominations to work right as the bets are variable.

Your large number of denominations don't work well together. They aren't a cohesive set, but really 2 different sets. Now suggesting that you might not want to have that many denominations is bit hypocritical of me as I'm working on a 12½¢, 50¢. $2. $10, $50 cash set, while I have several 25¢, $1, $5, $20, $100 cash set. But they don't play together, just to clunky to mix. Now this set I'm working on will play fine by itself, but everything I play with it could be done with my existing sets, (if I add a nickel). It's fun and different, but not needed.

Bottom line, get what you want and works for you, but be aware that your one big set configured with 11 denominations, is really 2 different sets that don't play well with each other and limit you flexibility and adaptability as some chips won't work depending on the base that you are playing with at the time. You will end up having a tough time running two tables at the same stake/base because you will have so much of your set tied up in chips that won't work well. But then again that is just my opinion.

I understand what you're saying. And, unless you see something I don't. The really only awkward spot is the .20/.40 vs .25/.50 debate. I could include a quarter to solve that. But, I'm not adding a bloody $2.50! That's just a bridge too far!

 

[allforcharity]

?Your argue against, and, for, the same master set in one post?

Estimating stacks is unnecessary when playing spread limit.
Pots are easy when there's only 3 or 4 denoms in them.
All Ins aren't allowed.
"from the large set, just carve out 3 or 4" Exactly! That's the plan kemosahbee.

No need for 2 or 3 sets to cover micro, lo, medium stakes.
One Set To Rule Them All.
Just carve out what you need tonight.

Then use your denoms in x4-5 increments instead of x2-2.5
You can do everything you need with 0.05, 0.25, 1, 5, 25, 100, 500 increments.
0.10, 0.50, 2, 10, 50 are all useless here.

 

[Sparkynutz]

I can understand your confusion. And, you're not wrong. It could be done with nickels, dimes and quarters.

But,You have to think about it from a bunch of newbies perspectives and that it's not limited to .05 and $2 limits.

The games that fit within are:
.05/.10 blinds .10-.50/.20-1.00 bets
.10/.20 blinds with .20-1.00/.40 - 2.00 bets
.20/.40 or .25/.50 blinds with .... you get the picture, X10 spread
.50/$1
and $1/2 with the same spread limit

Why on earth would we want to do this to ourselves?
We will frequently have at a table: a uni student, uni lecturer, tire changer, financial adviser/investment firm partner, owner of several local businesses, retiree, etc. And, 2-4 at the table may not have played before.
No Limit doesn't work for such a wide spectrum. And, Fixed Limit see's little opportunity for bluffing or game development or learning the game, beyond showdown contests. There'll always be one who correctly raises at every opportunity and to whom that money is nearly meaningless.

So: Currency denoms, 5c, 10c, 20c, 50c, $1, $2, $5, $10, $20, $50, $100. It makes sense to people who aren't already gamblers. It's what they think in and do business, bank and invest in everyday.

Pick the highest game that the least wealthy play is happy to play. Minimum buy of 50BB, recommended 100BB, and max buy of 200BB and a one rebuy limit. It keeps everyone in the game for 2-4 hours.

So, for any one of those games, you get a few of the sb on the table, and more of the BB and max bet, with at least one denom in the middle. You'll only ever have 4 denoms on the table at one time, maybe 5.

I know. I know. (Insert Malkovich's bad russian accent) "eett's not eeefishent."

But, it works. None of our play is about taking anyone's money. And, although we occasionally toss all the buys in a pot to be distributed tourny style at the end (50/30/20) no one is getting too stressed.

This is 100% Fraternity, Fellowship and Fun. Hell, some people are wearing 19th century costumes for this.

The 20c and $100 chips are pretty pointless tho.
2x10c or 2x$50 would work for more than the very few times the 20c and $100 would come into play.
Better off with those funds going into the other denoms.

 

[Longfoot]

I totally understand your reasoning, and strongly disagree with your conclusions.

Essentially, all you really need is two sets/series of denominations, depending on which game you are actively running:
~ 5c, 25c, $1, $5, $20, $100
~ 10c, 50c, $2, $10
And that second set isn't really needed at all.

Under no circumstances do you need 20c or $50 chips, nor will they improve game play in any way.

See below:

So, dropping the rather pointless and confusing 20c/40c blinds variant, all that is needed to run your range of events for two tables are:

200 x 5c
400 x 25c
400 x $1
400 x $5
200 x $20
100 x $100
----------------
1700 chips (and the $100 chips aren't necessary, as you can let $100 bills play if needed)

If only I lived in a country that had at any time since dropping the British Pound and decimalizing their currency minted a 25 cent piece or quarter dollar!

I know what ya'll advocate. I know everyone in the States runs quarters. I know, no one here has ever seen one....... except when on holiday.

And, a .25 would be the one addition to that ludicrously large master set I would consider.

"Essentially, all you really need is two sets/series of denominations, depending on which game you are actively running:
~ 5c, 25c, $1, $5, $20, $100
~ 10c, 50c, $2, $10
And that second set isn't really needed at all."

I know. This is not about necessity. It's about having any and every f'ing base covered. So, that whoever shows up, we can maximize their fun.
But, if you combine "those two sets", you get the set I'm setting out to create.

 

[Sparkynutz]

My not be fun if it turns out to be a pita confusing people with too many denoms at play.
Maybe try it with current chips and see how smooth it goes first?
Everyone is trying to help you save a buck or spend more wisely on chips.

 

[Longfoot]

Guys,

My last post on this.

If, for the purpose of discussing a master 'Cash Spread Limit' game set, you can't set aside your adherence to a X4 or X5 base, I'm o.k. that. You do yo.

But, doing so in our spread limit games would mean only 2, maybe 3 denoms on the table. And, HUGE stacks of those. So, everything saved with fewer denoms gets spent on huge stacks of lower denominations.

I knew this aspect would cause some a melt down. Don't worry. The odds of you ending up at our table are probably pretty slim.

"It's a newbie style set."

Yes, I know. It's for playing with a lot of inexperienced players.

The spreads are narrow. The intermediate denoms have value.

 

[BGinGA]

If only I lived in a country that had at any time since dropping the British Pound and decimalizing their currency minted a 25 cent piece or quarter dollar!

I know what ya'll advocate. I know everyone in the States runs quarters. I know, no one here has ever seen one....... except when on holiday.

And, a .25 would be the one addition to that ludicrously large master set I would consider.

"Essentially, all you really need is two sets/series of denominations, depending on which game you are actively running:
~ 5c, 25c, $1, $5, $20, $100
~ 10c, 50c, $2, $10
And that second set isn't really needed at all."

I know. This is not about necessity. It's about having any and every f'ing base covered. So, that whoever shows up, we can maximize their fun.
But, if you combine "those two sets", you get the set I'm setting out to create.

Not really. You won't need the 50c, $2, $10 (or $50 and $100) chips under any circumstances.

Add the 20c chip if you wish to remain in the middle ages, but the others are a huge waste of money, as they provide zero value to game play.... which is all that should matter.

 

[NotRealNameNoSir]

Hey bud, you came to us asked us about cash poker and denoms and breakdowns, you got tons of answers. Newbies dont care about random intermediate chips, they care about having a good time and learning the game.

No ones melting down, we're just telling you you're purposefully making a huge inefficient set. We've spent more time discussing these types of things, we promise you aren't the first person who figured having a denom for every possible bet would be cool. Yes, we know what spread limit poker is. Seems like you wanted lots of nods and back pats and didnt want a discussion.

I guess to answer: yes, you can pay a designer to make these chips, super cool, its realistic (but not rational), have fun.

 

[Tonystark137]

Guys,

My last post on this.

If, for the purpose of discussing a master 'Cash Spread Limit' game set, you can't set aside your adherence to a X4 or X5 base, I'm o.k. that. You do yo.

But, doing so in our spread limit games would mean only 2, maybe 3 denoms on the table. And, HUGE stacks of those. So, everything saved with fewer denoms gets spent on huge stacks of lower denominations.

I knew this aspect would cause some a melt down. Don't worry. The odds of you ending up at our table are probably pretty slim.

"It's a newbie style set."

Yes, I know. It's for playing with a lot of inexperienced players.

The spreads are narrow. The intermediate denoms have value.

Advice was asked for , advice was given from experienced chippers. Do whatever your money makes you happy.

 

[KHarp1]

I don't really have a dog in this fight because I don't play limit since the advent of no-limit, but, to the new guy I will say this...there is a TON of knowledge here, real world knowledge gained from many years of playing in, as well as running, games like this. Many have worked in casinos in various capacity, so again, there is a TON of experience here. Perhaps step back, use the search function and just spend some time looking around, doing some research. If you still feel the same after a couple of weeks of research then by all means buy whatever you wish. You may, however, start to realize what many others already know.

Either way, welcome to the forum, and good luck in your journey.

 

[Natskule]

Guys,

My last post on this.

If, for the purpose of discussing a master 'Cash Spread Limit' game set, you can't set aside your adherence to a X4 or X5 base, I'm o.k. that. You do yo.

But, doing so in our spread limit games would mean only 2, maybe 3 denoms on the table. And, HUGE stacks of those. So, everything saved with fewer denoms gets spent on huge stacks of lower denominations.

I knew this aspect would cause some a melt down. Don't worry. The odds of you ending up at our table are probably pretty slim.

"It's a newbie style set."

Yes, I know. It's for playing with a lot of inexperienced players.

The spreads are narrow. The intermediate denoms have value.

That's not a newbie style set.

Some of the folks that are offering the advice have taught newbies poker for decades. There is nothing newbie about an 11 denomination set. They are honestly trying to help. Your chips you can do what you want, but when you ask for advice at least consider it, as it has merit and comes from a lot of experience, and that experience come from playing with beginners and vets alike.

 

[KHarp1]

Just as a side note, I remember having to think about my place in my journey when I read a "play a hand along with me" and the pot was something like $280,000 (US) and one of the participants in this local game was Johnny Chan. I had no advice for a guy playing with bracelet winning pros for more in one hand then I make in a year. Guess it's all about perspective.