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With that I totally agree.
Point Defiance dealer buttons? (1 Viewer)
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Any thoughts on having both "dealer" texts oriented outward?
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It just looks upside down to me. I tried to do it side by side, but the boat requires the text to be above and below, since it's wider than it is tall.
Can you try to flip the text facing outward? The first part of a button you see is the leading edge, and then that text is upside down no matter which way you look at it in the given example ^
Also, for those purists, can't we include more text on the rolling edge? "Point Defiance Cafe and Casino * DEALER. * (repeat)
Also, for those purists, can't we include more text on the rolling edge? "Point Defiance Cafe and Casino * DEALER. * (repeat)
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That's what you meant, right?
The full name would be a lot to put on the edge, though it would be possible. Dealer x 4 and a separator has been all I've ever had on an edge.
Most I have seen had the name on the face and dealer on edge. Looks too plain Jane imo. Being a purist the words dealer should be on less emphasized. Too generic. Being the size it is most everyone would know this is a dealer button but no one would know what the boat was for.
The dealer buttons used at most casinos I've seen are simply white pucks with "dealer" written on them... Having the boat on there will absolutely be enough, if you're playing with the PD chips. Having PDCC written on the rolling edge would be cool.. See this dunes button for an example of the rolling edge.
Yes but your example once again proves my point. It has the logo and the word dunes hotel and country club since that is the brand. The brand is much more prominent than the word dealer as any good marketer would do. Maybe the OP should give direction as well
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Compromise? The RUSTON, WA ate a lot of space.
No problem. However you guys want to go but you may try see what op had in mind as well. Anyway it has been fun. I am in marketing and negotiation for a living so I had to chime in. Got to go. Catching a flight back home
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My .02:
I was liking the mock ups with PD on top and CC on the bottom, but then trihonda pointed out that dealer needs to be on there and I agreed, but after seeing the designs something isn't sitting right about "dealer" to me and I think I figured it out: whenever I see a dealer button the dealer is always in a straight font where this design (because of the boat in the middle) calls for it to be curved. The problem is to me, taking the latest posted concept for instance, is that "dealer" really blends in with the name because it's the same font and style. It may be just me but all the dealer buttons I can think of the text is straight and it almost sets it apart from the rest of the design, the "dealer" is more utilitarian to the design than part of it.
I don't "have" to have dealer on the front, I don't think there will ever be any confusion to what it is when being used, but I thought I liked the idea...now, i'm not sure if it can work like this?
"dealer" repeating on the rolling edge would be good for me I'm thinking , with Point Defiance above the boat and cafe and casino below it, doesn't need to say Rushton, WA.... Is that to plain??
Also, I read Davids post a few times and it took me a second to realize that I am op in this thread...but I want to emphasize that I just wanted to throw the idea out there. I offer my opinion only and it counts no more than anybody else's, the only goal I had in mind when I started this thread was to get a dealer button for my Point Defiance set because I had dealer button envy seeing all the cool shit atomik and owps did...
Whatever is decided will be fine, I will be happy just to get something done and meet the minimums!!
I was liking the mock ups with PD on top and CC on the bottom, but then trihonda pointed out that dealer needs to be on there and I agreed, but after seeing the designs something isn't sitting right about "dealer" to me and I think I figured it out: whenever I see a dealer button the dealer is always in a straight font where this design (because of the boat in the middle) calls for it to be curved. The problem is to me, taking the latest posted concept for instance, is that "dealer" really blends in with the name because it's the same font and style. It may be just me but all the dealer buttons I can think of the text is straight and it almost sets it apart from the rest of the design, the "dealer" is more utilitarian to the design than part of it.
I don't "have" to have dealer on the front, I don't think there will ever be any confusion to what it is when being used, but I thought I liked the idea...now, i'm not sure if it can work like this?
"dealer" repeating on the rolling edge would be good for me I'm thinking , with Point Defiance above the boat and cafe and casino below it, doesn't need to say Rushton, WA.... Is that to plain??
Also, I read Davids post a few times and it took me a second to realize that I am op in this thread...but I want to emphasize that I just wanted to throw the idea out there. I offer my opinion only and it counts no more than anybody else's, the only goal I had in mind when I started this thread was to get a dealer button for my Point Defiance set because I had dealer button envy seeing all the cool shit atomik and owps did...
Whatever is decided will be fine, I will be happy just to get something done and meet the minimums!!
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Just looked at the big dealer button thread atomik did, most have "dealer" on the front in a straight text (aztar, paradice, even stevens, garden city), one has it in a curved font on the edge (oak tree), and one has no "dealer" on the front only on the rolling edge (cassablanca).
Looking at the picture in post #44 of http://www.pokerchipforum.com/threads/dealer-button-blowout-2015-status-thread.6698/page-2 this thread, they are all right next to each other. Does anyone else feel like "dealer" curved on the edge is less desirable than either straight or no "dealer". I like all those dealer buttons, but to me oak tree is my least favorite because of how the "dealer" is positioned. Thoughts??
Looking at the picture in post #44 of http://www.pokerchipforum.com/threads/dealer-button-blowout-2015-status-thread.6698/page-2 this thread, they are all right next to each other. Does anyone else feel like "dealer" curved on the edge is less desirable than either straight or no "dealer". I like all those dealer buttons, but to me oak tree is my least favorite because of how the "dealer" is positioned. Thoughts??
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All that being said though, post #71 in this thread is the best compromise so far...
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As far as Dealer not standing out, there's a lot of other things you can do while keeping the shape. Font, color and changing the text to ALL CAPS are good possibilities. I was specifically matching the existing stamp text with it, but that might not be the best idea.
The Par-a-Dice buttons are an interesting example where we didn't use Par-A-Dice at all (since the casino is still operating under that name). There's few hard and fast rules, IMO.
My oaktree design had the "DEALER" text much more centrally located, but it never got printed.
EDIT: Also, if you click the post number, it's a link directly to the specific post. You can copy it out of the URL bar (or just right click on it and copy it).
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Those are good ideas for the text.
And thanks for the tip on how to link to a specific post, I knew there must be a way.
And thanks for the tip on how to link to a specific post, I knew there must be a way.
Compromise? The RUSTON, WA ate a lot of space.
I like this one a lot, but I'd use all uppercase for DEALER (but lowercase height). Looks unbalanced as-is.
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Looking real good.
Works for me
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Ok, since everybody seemed pretty happy, I did some final tweaks to letter spacing and the gradient. Whoever wants to open the group buy thread and start sending PMs for payment can go ahead and do that. I can finalize the file for print and pass it to the organizer and OWPS.
I decided I wasn't sold on the changes to the gold gradient and switched it back:
I decided I wasn't sold on the changes to the gold gradient and switched it back:
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It takes too long to do it for every concept. The space after the P was huge though.
It feels weird to be using Times New Roman for a project like this, but that's what's on the chips....
Dealer in red? Thoughts?
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255,0,0 red, or something more muted?
Worth a look in red
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Darker is better. IMO
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Like the one on the right.
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