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Tried these over Christmas. 50% winners, including the unoaked white. Very nice Pinots, much lighter bodied than most CA Pinots I’ve tried which is what I prefer. That said, not all for my pallete, and the price point is crazy high. I’m not convinced you can’t get this quality for 50% of the price.
The unoaked chard is the only American white I’ll drink…
 
The unoaked chard is the only American white I’ll drink…
Wow. A bold declaration of your passion. Nice. You’re leaving a ton on the table in my experience, but that is a very solid bottle, without question.
 
Wow. A bold declaration of your passion. Nice. You’re leaving a ton on the table in my experience, but that is a very solid bottle, without question.
Sadly, we know a lot of wine lovers with similar taste, including ourselves. We have over 600 bottles in the house, and the only American non-reds are sparklers from Gruet in New Mexico. That we drink very little chardonnay or cab sauvignon and consider most US wine to be quite overpriced has much to do with that.

When we lived in Virginia, we enjoyed some unusual bottlings from a couple of vineyards in Loudon County, west of DC, mainly because Willowcroft and a neighboring vineyard worked with some unusual grapes, bottling pure Seyval, Traminette, Claire, Muscat-Ottonel, Vidal Blanc, even an Albarino.

As a matter of fact, we have little interest overall in American wine. All we buy and enjoy are zins (mainly Ridge), a few notable Santa Barbara pinots, and the Gruets. Nothing at all from the Pacific NW or upstate NY until you cross the border and hit Inniskillin. :cool
 
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@pltrgyst i hear you. I find that many American wines (esp those that are distributed) are not balanced wines. They’re either over oaked chardonnays (eg rombauer), one dimensional Cabernets (eg silver oak or caymus), super fruity zins with >15% abv., etc etc

Add to this the trend of Napa valley wineries sourcing fruit from cheaper land and marketing that wine with their winery label and Napa prices (to your overpriced comment). When I visit local wineries I always ask where the fruit is sourced from for this reason.

But good, balanced, reasonably priced US wines are out there, you just have to, unfortunately, wade through the crap I describe above to get there. If you ever plan a trip to the Bay Area let me know and I’ll happily provide some fun recommendations.
 
All these nice, expensive wines deserve something special to cap the evening. If you've hit a jumbo casino jackpot lately, I'd recommend this:

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But good, balanced, reasonably priced US wines are out there, you just have to, unfortunately, wade through the crap I describe above to get there. If you ever plan a trip to the Bay Area let me know and I’ll happily provide some fun recommendations.
100% this.

For a quality drinking unoaked Chardonnay, I think you can do better than the $40+ your paying for W-S.

Their Pinot Noirs are also egregiously overpriced, in my opinion. But my pallete also doesn’t prefer fruit bomb, spice mine, sweeter Pinot Noirs and wine is almost 100% subjective. Buy and drink what brings you joy.
 
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So you can only accept wine deliveries four months out of the year? Yeeesh.
Rule of thumb for the wineries it has to be under 90 during transport and delivery, so we are ok for a little longer, but not much.
 
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How was the Don Melchor? Some of their higher end Cabs are solid, but there equally good bottles for less.
I think it needed more time but as you allude to, wasn’t worth the price tag. Did pair well with the steaks but wasn’t the winner in the lineup.
 

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