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but wait...there is more (again...just to put prices of those days in perspective)

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Solid MGK chips (incl TRK colors !!!!!)

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Ben8257 said:
I believe @Heavyball had the breakdowns of how many chips were originally released... but I haven't seen that chart in over a year 38k sounds a bit high but might be in the neighborhood. Remember many people want lots of $5s and not as many $1s or $25s... the casinos many times have pretty even breakdowns, therefore is its quite common for these sets to be short when it come to $5s... add in the fact that people murder chips for their customs (I don't know off hand anyone doing that to these but very possible) and just like the Jacks there is a shortage of $5s for the other sets out there.

@Thomacetti did you have the original breakdown chart of what was available also? Can't believe you guys didn't buy them all for those prices!! LOL curious what the sale prices would be now releasing leaded minty THCs into the comunity.
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It's in the PCA mother thread here

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Ben8257 said:
I have always thought that the secondary $1s are way below where the market should be for those. I get that they are RHC and do not match the set... but the colors are amazing, they are leaded and have textured inlays. I do not understand why they don't bring $2 plus when they are part of a rather expensive set for the rest of the chips in the series.
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Ben,

Couldn’t agree with you more on this point. I see what some of the new RHC $1s go for now compared with what the secondary PCA $1s go for and it’s mind boggling. The PCA secondary $1s have it all in terms of look and feel, and the history too!! I think a lot of the newer chippers couldn’t care less about the history of the hobby, though. All it takes is a few people to decide they want PCA secondary $1s, then there will be a slew of people after them...
 
DMack said:
Ben,

Couldn’t agree with you more on this point. I see what some of the new RHC $1s go for now compared with what the secondary PCA $1s go for and it’s mind boggling. The PCA secondary $1s have it all in terms of look and feel, and the history too!! I think a lot of the newer chippers couldn’t care less about the history of the hobby, though. All it takes is a few people to decide they want PCA secondary $1s, then there will be a slew of people after them...
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I'd disagree slightly about the history. I think it really just depends on the person. I'm fairly new to the game but I can tell you that the history fascinates me. It adds so much the the allure of certain chips to me, but I think as someone seeking out chips that hit my feels just the right way, aesthetic and physical feel of the chip is still the main driver.
 
DMack said:
Ben,

Couldn’t agree with you more on this point. I see what some of the new RHC $1s go for now compared with what the secondary PCA $1s go for and it’s mind boggling. The PCA secondary $1s have it all in terms of look and feel, and the history too!! I think a lot of the newer chippers couldn’t care less about the history of the hobby, though. All it takes is a few people to decide they want PCA secondary $1s, then there will be a slew of people after them...
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Not history imho....(that is mostly for LV chips & special TRK sets)

Only reason these are cheap is because most die hard PCA fans wanted THC $1 too (and paid a LOT more to get them made).
If these were THC & shaped inlays like the Aztars..these would be 400-600/rack too

But once people will understand there is a big difference in old & new RHC chips (identical story with THC old & new)...then PCA will be considered grail RHC's.
With THC you see this already happening with old school leaded & shaped/textured inlays...in time same will happen with RHC
 
Also, now that I've had varying degrees of advice and have had a great opportunity to read up on some of the context + chipping motivation, it seems to make the most sense to me (and possibly most beneficial to the community at large) to remove my pricing from the want ad. I'm always open to any discussion for cash, but it might be better if handled via PM? Currently wiser thanks to you all and updating my OP!
 
Thomacetti said:
Not history imho....(that is mostly for LV chips & special TRK sets)

Only reason these are cheap is because most die hard PCA fans wanted THC $1 too (and paid a LOT more to get them made).
If these were THC & shaped inlays like the Aztars..these would be 400-600/rack too

But once people will understand there is a big difference in old & new RHC chips (identical story with THC old & new)...then PCA will be considered grail RHC's.
With THC you see this already happening with old school leaded & shaped/textured inlays...in time same will happen with RHC
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I’m probably biased in terms of the history of these. It was the first casino I stepped foot in over two decades ago. It was a dump, but there was just something beautiful about that boat!! And the chips were gorgeous too...
 
jpietrella said:
Also, now that I've had varying degrees of advice and have had a great opportunity to read up on some of the context + chipping motivation, it seems to make the most sense to me (and possibly most beneficial to the community at large) to remove my pricing from the want ad. I'm always open to any discussion for cash, but it might be better if handled via PM? Currently wiser thanks to you all and updating my OP!
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You’re going to get it from both angles here. Some old timers will tell you to definitely put a price in the want ad, while others will tell you not to. As with a lot of things, you can’t win for losing.
 
DMack said:
You’re going to get it from both angles here. Some old timers will tell you to definitely put a price in the want ad, while others will tell you not to. As with a lot of things, you can’t win for losing.
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Yeah, I suppose I can understand arguments for both. I guess the big difference now is I have enough back story and understanding to actually form an opinion on the matter. Whether that opinion is popular or not, I'm not sure, but it's mine so that at least makes me feel a bit more enlightened! Many thanks to those that took the time to dig up all of this info and contribute to the conversation!
 
jpietrella said:
it seems to make the most sense to me (and possibly most beneficial to the community at large) to remove my pricing from the want ad.
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Can you explain? I want to understand the perspective, but I don’t get it. Maybe someone else can PM that’s open to the conversation.
 
Thomacetti said:
It's in the PCA mother thread here

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I’d be surprised after the poker boom if 20% of those chips are on PCF after CT died
As cheap as they were who knows
Basement closets
Lost in moving / garage sales
Lost in storage lockers
A lot of guys retired and post poker boom quit poker they are in the dresser somewhere

I’d say if 75% of them knew what some stuff goes for there would be a flood of stuff here for sale till they are $1.50 a chip again
 
HaRDHouSeiNC said:
I’d be surprised after the poker boom if 20% of those chips are on PCF after CT died
As cheap as they were who knows
Basement closets
Lost in moving / garage sales
Lost in storage lockers
A lot of guys retired and post poker boom quit poker they are in the dresser somewhere

I’d say if 75% of them knew what some stuff goes for there would be a flood of stuff here for sale till they are $1.50 a chip again
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I would say even all 35,000 chips of that quality the price would stay at $400 a rack and all would sell. That chip is awesome and @Thomacetti is right I agree given the current market they are under valued!
 
Ben8257 said:
I would say even all 35,000 chips of that quality the price would stay at $400 a rack and all would sell. That chip is awesome and @Thomacetti is right I agree given the current market they are under valued!
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I’d be on the HARD under of $400 if even 80 racks popped up here in a 3 month period
IDK
 
HaRDHouSeiNC said:
I’d be on the HARD under of $400 if even 80 racks popped up here in a 3 month period
IDK
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40 members buying 2 racks at 400/rack.....easy, there would be plenty members left in backup and backupbackup

So you're on...over (a hundo (US) should this ever happen) ;)
 
Ben8257 said:
I would say even all 35,000 chips of that quality the price would stay at $400 a rack and all would sell. That chip is awesome and @Thomacetti is right I agree given the current market they are under valued!
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I'm gonna go ahead and agree with all this. But it's always worth mentioning that the current market is stupid and likely unsustainable.
 
Rhodeman77 said:
As the government keeps sending money to everyone, including those that don’t need it to make ends meet, that money in this community will help drive prices up more potentially.
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Yeah, in the short term, for sure. But something tells me that the US economy is going to be very screwed for a while, pretty soon. These handouts can't last forever. How that impacts the chip market, we'll just have to wait and see.
 
upNdown said:
I'm gonna go ahead and agree with all this. But it's always worth mentioning that the current market is stupid and likely unsustainable.
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I think as these chips settle into the hands of people who will keep them forever (@Thomacetti and Brie, for example) they will become more elusive and prices will hold/increase. As people come in and out of this community I don’t believe there are enough leaded Paulsons to go around - long term.
 
cgpilot said:
I think as these chips settle into the hands of people who will keep them forever (@Thomacetti and Brie, for example) they will become more elusive and prices will hold/increase. As people come in and out of this community I don’t believe there are enough leaded Paulsons to go around - long term.
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Also true. Can't really give it a 'like' because I don't like it.
 
cgpilot said:
I think as these chips settle into the hands of people who will keep them forever (@Thomacetti and Brie, for example) they will become more elusive and prices will hold/increase. As people come in and out of this community I don’t believe there are enough leaded Paulsons to go around - long term.
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Agreed...I have had many chips coming my way but sold only 2 sets and 8-ish racks tops in +10 years.
Even those I regret while they were only sold to fund moar chips....
 
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