How Common are Split Edges (4 Viewers)

[JackNineSuited]

I have been really considering buying either a paulson set or a cpc custom set,; however, the idea of split edge spots is putting me on pause. I really do not like the look of seeing split edge spots when paying a few thousand dollars. At this cost it will be the only set I ever buy.

CPC will charge an extra 20% if using dayglo with non dayglo to just bring it down to "normal" levels. I am wondering would it just be better to buy 20-30% more chips that way I would theoretically have more perfect chips and also have the imperfect chips for the same price as the premium.

My questions are:
1) Is CPC exaggerating the amount that it will occur to cover themselves enough?
2)Do paulson sets typically have this problem? I was just looking at a post and noticed that about half of the chips(didn't really count) had split edges on their paulson set.

 

[Jasap47]

1. Yes, i think they are covering themselves for the most part. I have 2 custom CPC sets, a total of 2400 chips. I dont think there is more than 25 to 30 chips that i noticed with split spots total. They also routinely ship any extras from the batch, that would cover most, if not all split spots. If you wanted to be safe an extra 20 or so chips of each denominations would be more than enough afaik.
2. Paulsons are the same type of chip as CPC, so yes they can and will have split spots. It really seems to be unavoidable, but steering clear of using smaller edge spots on dayglo bodies will go a long way to make it a non factor imo. Hope this helps.

 

[Frogzilla]

1/8 spots on dayglo Saturn. Not seeing many. I don’t mind the character if I saw a couple.

 

[BGinGA]

The inadvertant creation of split spots depends heavily on the two colors involved (different material compositions with different heating characteristics), and to a lesser degree, the specific spot pattern(s) used.

In general, some darker colors don't play very nice with some lighter colors, in any configuration (base/spot, spot/base, or spot/spot).

 

[JackNineSuited]

In the case of these, the edge spots aren't splitting, but they are distorted. Is that pretty common?

 

[arch3r]

One rack of fracs I had produced for my Jessie Beck set.

 

[TX_Golf_N_Poker]

1/8 spots on dayglo Saturn. Not seeing many. I don’t mind the character if I saw a couple.
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So maybe I still don't understand exactly what a split spot is. I thought it was when the base color completely divided the spot color. Like in the blue chip at the bottom of the barrel below. And to a lesser degree, the yellow chip next to it. But I don't see any of these in your photo. Which of those chips are you calling split spots?

Furthermore, I guess it's a personal preference issue. I actually want to have a few of these spots in my set. To me, the small imperfections just make it more obvious that these are real, handmade clay chips, and not something plastic coming off an assembly line where every chip and spot is identical.

 

[arch3r]

One rack of fracs I had produced for my Jessie Beck set.

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And there is no Caution warning in the builder with my color combo:

 

[ekricket]

One rack of fracs I had produced for my Jessie Beck set.

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Are the split spot ones larger or smaller than normal on the face? Like if sometimes the spot insert was a little small I could see excess material being forced into the gaps. You wouldn’t notice it on the face except maybe the spot would be different sized than normal?

 

[ChipFinderSK]

So maybe I still don't understand exactly what a split spot is. I thought it was when the base color completely divided the spot color. Like in the blue chip at the bottom of the barrel below. And to a lesser degree, the yellow chip next to it. But I don't see any of these in your photo. Which of those chips are you calling split spots?

Furthermore, I guess it's a personal preference issue. I actually want to have a few of these spots in my set. To me, the small imperfections just make it more obvious that these are real, handmade clay chips, and not something plastic coming off an assembly line where every chip and spot is identical.


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You got it (split spot). I think @Frogzilla was just showing an example of chips with contrast (light base, dark spots) and thin spots that didn’t have many split spots to put the OP’s mind at ease.

Then @arch3r gave an example of why OP’s fear is legitimate

 

[Jasap47]

When were you're chips made@arch3r? It seems that after the original thread that discussed this issue, steps were taking to minimize split spots. Mostly putting the warning on the site.

 

[arch3r]

Are the split spot ones larger or smaller than normal on the face? Like if sometimes the spot insert was a little small I could see excess material being forced into the gaps. You wouldn’t notice it on the face except maybe the spot would be different sized than normal?

Pretty normal.

 

[arch3r]

When were you're chips made@arch3r? It seems that after the original thread that discussed this issue, steps were taking to minimize split spots. Mostly putting the warning on the site.

Mine were probably an early run of tri spots. But it doesn't give me any comfort that now steps are taken to minimize splits. I still have a rack with 75%-80% splits.

 

[Rhodeman77]

Here is the thread with my experience and split spots from CPC. After this thread happened is when the warning and added price option was given.

https://www.pokerchipforum.com/threads/split-spots-on-diamond-square-mold-from-cpc.68741/

 

[allforcharity]

I'm not really bothered by split spots at all. You say bug, I say feature.

 

[Josh Kifer]

The inadvertant creation of split spots depends heavily on the two colors involved (different material compositions with different heating characteristics), and to a lesser degree, the specific spot pattern(s) used.

In general, some darker colors don't play very nice with some lighter colors, in any configuration (base/spot, spot/base, or spot/spot).

This is 100%

 

[Tonystark137]

I'm not really bothered by split spots at all. You say bug, I say feature.

Security features you say?

 

[Ben8257]

All of my BCC Mardi Gras V2 $500s have split spots.

Traded another member 3 for 2 because it tilted him... doesn't bother me at all. I think it gives them character.

 

[JackNineSuited]

i think it doesnt look as bad on smaller edge spots but i don't see how you could be happy with what @arch3r showed

 

[bigblind]

doesn't bother me...split spots add character

 

[Huskerchipper]

i think it doesnt look as bad on smaller edge spots but i don't see how you could be happy with what @arch3r showed

Doesn't bother me...whatsoever. I don't see how it tilts people that bad. Maybe clay isn't for you???

 

[doublebooyah85]

I'm not really bothered by split spots at all. You say bug, I say feature.

The CDI $100 sometimes does/doesn’t.

Always thought it was unique/odd. All of this makes sense now.

 

[doublebooyah85]

The CDI $100 sometimes does/doesn’t.

Always thought it was unique/odd. All of this makes sense now.

What do you call it when the side edge slot isn’t flat/straight. And it sometimes wedges out.

The yellow edge spot I pointed to is flat.
The lime green isn’t.

Then on the bottom the blue chip is a split spot?

 

[upNdown]

Doesn't bother me...whatsoever. I don't see how it tilts people that bad. Maybe clay isn't for you???

Nah. I love clay. I love most of the imperfections that come with clay chips and their edge spots. But I also think split spots are ugly.

 

[BNads86]

What do you call it when the side edge slot isn’t flat/straight. And it sometimes wedges out.
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The yellow edge spot I pointed to is flat.
The lime green isn’t.

Then on the bottom the blue chip is a split spot?

I thought the lime green was referred to as a dove tail, but now I can't find any reference to that in the search. Did I hallucinate this?

 

[btbmason]

This sounds like a good reason to order solids.

Look, no split spots!

 

[TX_Golf_N_Poker]

What do you call it when the side edge slot isn’t flat/straight. And it sometimes wedges out.
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The yellow edge spot I pointed to is flat.
The lime green isn’t.

Then on the bottom the blue chip is a split spot?

The second arrow to the blurple chip - I don't know if it has an official name. Maybe squeezed spot? But I call it desirable. To me, those are the coolest spots in that entire barrel!

Edit: When I was having ceramic Tina chips designed a few years ago, I literally sent pics of spots like that to my designer and asked him to design edge spots that looked similar to these "squeezed" ones. The spots I dislike the most are the ones that have straight up and down lines.

 

[upNdown]

What do you call it when the side edge slot isn’t flat/straight.

Honestly I’d call it normal.

 

[softchewy]

What do you call it when the side edge slot isn’t flat/straight. And it sometimes wedges out.

not called anything, as it is normal - no (compression clay) edgespots are truly exactly straight
think you are just seeing the beginning of the same process that causes split edgespot, you're brain is just not allowing you to see it that way
split edge base/reverse split?

 

[doublebooyah85]

Honestly I’d call it normal.

Yeah it’s definitely not something I would try to “make a perfect rack” because of or go OCD. But sometimes the clay goes dead straight, sometimes it makes a tornado/hourglass, other times it makes a little tail / wedge?