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Home tournament before cash game? (1 Viewer)
- Thread starter maloviz
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I enjoy both cash and tournament poker but in general I prefer cash when there is only one table and tourney's when there are multiple tables.
Recently a buddy of mine was hosting a game that I was attending and he said he had 8 confirmed and 4 maybe's. My hope at that time was either 0 of the maybe's show up or all 4 just to avoid the awkward 9, 10, 11 number of players.
Recently a buddy of mine was hosting a game that I was attending and he said he had 8 confirmed and 4 maybe's. My hope at that time was either 0 of the maybe's show up or all 4 just to avoid the awkward 9, 10, 11 number of players.
ngmcs8203
Flush
8 confirmed and 4 maybes = 7 players at the table.
That’s exactly what we ended up with!
stuamurr
Sitting Out
My way of doing tourney and cash on one table in the same night is to make the tourney a turbo double through. Once the bubble bursts that's the tourney finished and every one gets equal pay-out (at least double) and if there's a surplus - say £5/£10 it goes to the biggest chip stack, then we get straight into cash game thereafter without everyone waiting around for the tournament to finish.
Oryx
High Hand
I've done it... Don't do it lol. I had to kick people out at 1:30am. The tournament ran from 7 until about 10:30. Then cash ran right after that until 1:30. I found that it was mostly the degenerates that stuck around lol
Huskerchipper
Flush
We do the same but we have a hard stop time that everyone is aware of before any cards are played. The way I see it everyone there has put aside the evening to play cards at my hosted game so I want to be as reasonably accommodating as possible.
Sounds fantastic lol
Brad1316
Pair
yep - that's poker math.
I’m currently thinking of using my old blank set of chips for a cash game after my tournaments for those that go bust.
I have some questions for those that know a lot more than me (as one who has never done a cash game).
My tourney buyin is pretty small at $20, rebuy for $10. For the type of crowd that does a $20 buy in I was thinking $5.00 in chips for a cash game would be a good place to start. I’ll have $0.05 $0.25 $1.00 and $5.00 chips (if needed).
Now I am not sure if this small side cash game should be limit or no limit, does anyone have any suggestions? I’m planning to keep blinds at $0.05 and $0.10. I’ve never done a limit game personally. Open to some suggestions here.
I have some questions for those that know a lot more than me (as one who has never done a cash game).
My tourney buyin is pretty small at $20, rebuy for $10. For the type of crowd that does a $20 buy in I was thinking $5.00 in chips for a cash game would be a good place to start. I’ll have $0.05 $0.25 $1.00 and $5.00 chips (if needed).
Now I am not sure if this small side cash game should be limit or no limit, does anyone have any suggestions? I’m planning to keep blinds at $0.05 and $0.10. I’ve never done a limit game personally. Open to some suggestions here.
Brad1316
Pair
I have a group of players that are similar, $25 tournaments with $10 rebuys/add-ons. If we get a cash game going afterward they are usually good for another ten or twenty dollars. We usually do quarter ante, quarter bets to a max of one dollar. They are not really a cash game crowd. We just make all chips worth a quarter. I have a lot of solid color chips of various colors (Super Diamonds) so that's what we use.
Natskule
3 of a Kind
One group I play with has a $20 Freeze out, then when there is enough players we start a cash game. It's dealers choice with a quarter ante, $20 buy in, $0.25 to $5 spread limit, 3 raise limit. Funny thing is many of them still treat it like a tournament, won't leave or rebuy until they bust. We've also done $0.25, $0.25 blinds for flop games only.
OzzieJim
Pair
I have done this once to teach people how to play PLO.
If the star attraction is the cash game I would make this a hyper turbo.
50BB starting stacks, 10 minute levels, doubling blinds. Get it done in an hour or so.
It will be a flipfest anyway so its fine if players come in while the tournament is in progress. This way you'll have a full table for cash and nobody will be sitting on their hands while the final two joust at each other with 1BB raises heads up for an hour and a half.
If the star attraction is the cash game I would make this a hyper turbo.
50BB starting stacks, 10 minute levels, doubling blinds. Get it done in an hour or so.
It will be a flipfest anyway so its fine if players come in while the tournament is in progress. This way you'll have a full table for cash and nobody will be sitting on their hands while the final two joust at each other with 1BB raises heads up for an hour and a half.
Thanks for the replies. The star is not the cash game, the star is the tourney, cash game is so I know after players go bust they still have a great time. I asked my regulars and they loved the idea.
Ok so I’m going to give 0.05/0.10 blinds a go, with a $0.10 - $1.00 spread 3 raise limit.
Ok so I’m going to give 0.05/0.10 blinds a go, with a $0.10 - $1.00 spread 3 raise limit.
NotRealNameNoSir
4 of a Kind
Why would you prefer ante only? The blinds help teach people that position matters and gives people incentive to either bet or raise before the flop, otherwise instead of everyone limping you'll just get everyone checking. Usually when there's an ante, there's also another reason to bet like the bring-in in stud.
drdr
Straight
If your interested in a micro or small stakes ante game, I reckon explore running a poker variant that uses antes rather than blinds. Maybe 7 card stud, razz, or even draw.
OzzieJim
Pair
I don't mind ante only for NLH but the caveat would be you can't check preflop.
Action starts with SB who can either fold or bet at least 1 unit of what would be the blinds. Like for a 0.10 Ante I'd say 0.10 or 0.25 as a "minimum bet"
Another alternative is to play fixed limit holdem. My crew would find a way to send 1000BB each at 0.10/0.20 but it's exceptionally hard to go broke playing FLH at 2/4 or under.
Action starts with SB who can either fold or bet at least 1 unit of what would be the blinds. Like for a 0.10 Ante I'd say 0.10 or 0.25 as a "minimum bet"
Another alternative is to play fixed limit holdem. My crew would find a way to send 1000BB each at 0.10/0.20 but it's exceptionally hard to go broke playing FLH at 2/4 or under.
wickedwonka121
Flush
5 works but not as much action. 8 per, 2 tables is ideal in my book. I would run 3 x 7 player tables if incould get such a big group going.
For a single table, probably not ever going to be done cleanly. You could have a very short buyin tournament where the whole thing is done in 4-5 levels at 15 minutes each but who would enjoy that structure? If it were a social gathering rather than just a poker game you could have food for the middle between the two I suppose. It's tough to be able to count on the early bust outs to hang around long enough for cash. Who could blame them?
SavageLizard
Pair
We've done that in our games forever, but with the cash game first. We play for about 3 hours, then cash everyone out and set up the tournament. When people get knocked out they can go ahead and leave, or hang around to watch.
I’m shocked at how many people here host tournaments. I love tournaments, but hosting one properly is a lot more work and stress than hosting a cash game. I’d suggest to anybody new that they keep it simple and just play cash. Cash games are so much better suited for home games. But I believe that if you want to do both, the best way to do it is like Dave suggested - cash game first, then the tournament.
Plenty of good reasons for doing cash game first have already been mentioned, but one of my biggest reasons is that you’ll always have guys who don’t respect the tournament. They can’t wait for the tournament to end so they can get to that cash game. And they’ll be vocal about it and they’ll play like donkeys and they’ll pressure everybody for chops - those guys drive me crazy. Cash first with a set time for the tournament solves that problem.
Plenty of good reasons for doing cash game first have already been mentioned, but one of my biggest reasons is that you’ll always have guys who don’t respect the tournament. They can’t wait for the tournament to end so they can get to that cash game. And they’ll be vocal about it and they’ll play like donkeys and they’ll pressure everybody for chops - those guys drive me crazy. Cash first with a set time for the tournament solves that problem.
Natskule
3 of a Kind
Definitely seen that, felt it, even done it.
Easy to do, if you are a short stack in the tournament, they need one more player to start up the cash game or even worse only 1 seat left at the cash game table. Fuck it, All In, either get some chips to be competitive in the tournament or I'll go play in the cash game. Cash game is a lot more fun than sitting around folding waiting for that all in moment and some luck.
ekricket
Royal Flush
Ummm most cash games function just like this. Especially in casinos. Maybe there’s less preflop, but on the later streets it’s the same if not worse in cash.
Off topic a bit here but… tournaments are cut and dry, you know what you can lose, and it doesn’t change (at least for freezeouts). That’s what I like about them, participants can only lose so much, and everyone is on level playing ground with bankroll.
I enjoy hosting them, it’s a fun night with big pots.
I enjoy hosting them, it’s a fun night with big pots.
Natskule
3 of a Kind
Not this dealer's choice cash game.
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