Well in the state of KY it changes a legal game to an illegal game that could get you arrested.Can someone explain why taking a rake at a home game is taboo, given the fact that I would be providing the chips, food, etc.?
Can someone explain why taking a rake at a home game is taboo, given the fact that I would be providing the chips, food, etc.?
Regarding the food, I eat before I play. I go to play cards, not have a smorgasbord. If you are going to charge me for food, do I get to request specific types, or am I limited to what ever slop you provide?
Easy killer, I prepare and cook food, ranging from steak, brisket, pork butt, breakfast foods, ect .. I also have a large assortment of ice cream, significant selection of pop, water, coffee, beer, and sometimes even tea.
If you make requests I'll try to accommodate, when I have had raked games.
You're not being charged for 'food', tables aren't cheap, chips aren't cheap, cleaning chips isn't fun, finding and keeping up with the players takes effort. Cards cost money, location and bathroom facilities, parking, chairs, ice I mean the list goes on and on.
With a rake typically comes a lineup that you would otherwise not have access to, it takes about 30-40 players to field a proper weekly game.
Security, camera equipment, risk, lots of costs in there.
That doesn’t sound like any home game I’ve ever been in. “location and bathrooom facilities, parking,” etc. That’s an underground game l, IMO, which is much different than what I think of when I think home game.Easy killer, I prepare and cook food, ranging from steak, brisket, pork butt, breakfast foods, ect .. I also have a large assortment of ice cream, significant selection of pop, water, coffee, beer, and sometimes even tea.
If you make requests I'll try to accommodate, when I have had raked games.
You're not being charged for 'food', tables aren't cheap, chips aren't cheap, cleaning chips isn't fun, finding and keeping up with the players takes effort. Cards cost money, location and bathroom facilities, parking, chairs, ice I mean the list goes on and on.
With a rake typically comes a lineup that you would otherwise not have access to, it takes about 30-40 players to field a proper weekly game.
Security, camera equipment, risk, lots of costs in there.
This would be accommodated, but you're not fading the rake, the game is, its not centric to you, and you're not required to show upWhat if I'm a vegetarian? Or like one time when I had to fast for a blood test the next day? I drank one bottled water.
Robbery! 'Friend' seems like the wrong word here..My friend was raking about $70-$100 a night in a friendly $0.25/$0.50 game. That's a lot for a self-dealt game with one bag of potato chips.
I wouldn't shout prescriptivist at you, definition notwithstanding, you knew I wasn't taking about a casino or charity game. Grey lines, lots of grey lines =) but that's my point, right? When you take a rake you change expectations, you change the game, and that is why I think most of community here is disinterested in the conversation. Most are looking for a place to have fun, keep stakes lower and talk about chipping. Why would you take a rake on a 25c / 50c game? Taking a rake redefines what most ppl think of 'home game'.That doesn’t sound like any home game I’ve ever been in. “location and bathrooom facilities, parking,” etc. That’s an underground game l, IMO, which is much different than what I think of when I think home game.
I think a lot of ppl feel this way and I think its the wrong outlook, I think its aggressive and is the reason 'rake talk' is taboo on this site. I wish it wasn't. I also don't think Sal would play in many raked games.If I am paying for your chips then they become mine as well, sort of like community property.
Regarding the food, I eat before I play. I go to play cards, not have a smorgasbord. If you are going to charge me for food, do I get to request specific types, or am I limited to what ever slop you provide?
This would be accommodated, but you're not fading the rake, the game is, its not centric to you, and you're not required to show up
Robbery! 'Friend' seems like the wrong word here..
I wouldn't shout prescriptivist at you, definition notwithstanding, you knew I wasn't taking about a casino or charity game. Grey lines, lots of grey lines =) but that's my point, right? When you take a rake you change expectations, you change the game, and that is why I think most of community here is disinterested in the conversation. Most are looking for a place to have fun, keep stakes lower and talk about chipping. Why would you take a rake on a 25c / 50c game? Taking a rake redefines what most ppl think of 'home game'.
I think a lot of ppl feel this way and I think its the wrong outlook, I think its aggressive and is the reason 'rake talk' is taboo on this site. I wish it wasn't. I also don't think Sal would play in many raked games.
I'll work on it!Get your panties out of a wad.
Do you rake for food? I seem to remember you don't charge, but I may be thinking of someone else.This would be accommodated, but you're not fading the rake, the game is, its not centric to you, and you're not required to show up
Indeed. He is really not my friend any more. The cost of our friendship is equal to the thousands he took off of the table.Robbery! 'Friend' seems like the wrong word here..
My point exactly. Who rakes a friendly quarter game?I wouldn't shout prescriptivist at you, definition notwithstanding, you knew I wasn't taking about a casino or charity game. Grey lines, lots of grey lines =) but that's my point, right? When you take a rake you change expectations, you change the game, and that is why I think most of community here is disinterested in the conversation. Most are looking for a place to have fun, keep stakes lower and talk about chipping. Why would you take a rake on a 25c / 50c game? Taking a rake redefines what most ppl think of 'home game'.
When someone uses the excuse to recoup their expensive purchases by charging a rake then it does become an issue. Where does it end?I think a lot of ppl feel this way and I think its the wrong outlook, I think its aggressive and is the reason 'rake talk' is taboo on this site. I wish it wasn't. I also don't think Sal would play in many raked games.
The way I see it, you rake if you want to profit off your game. If you need to cover costs of chips, food, ask your players for a one-time charge to help offset your costs.Can someone explain why taking a rake at a home game is taboo, given the fact that I would be providing the chips, food, etc.?
I think a lot of ppl feel this way and I think its the wrong outlook, I think its aggressive and is the reason 'rake talk' is taboo on this site. I wish it wasn't.
Yeah, pretty much the same here.Taking a rake at a home game is just wrong. I host a home cash game twice per month, and I have light snacks and drinks, water, beer soda and liquor. If those attending want something special for drinks or snacks, I ask them to bring their own. Most of the regulars aren't drinkers, so water and sodas are the preferred drinks. I figure it cost me $20.00 each sitting but I don't mind. It's a fun night with good friends. We play $20.00 buy in so it's a friendly game. Most nights, there are more snacks remaining than what was started with. My biggest expense is the meat and fruit tray that I put out on the side table. Some of the guys toss me a few $$ before they leave so it helps replenish the mini fridge, but I don't ask for any $$.