High stakes home tourney chip breakdown (1 Viewer)

[coolguy101]

I can never figure out how many chips are needed when trying to structure a tournament. I’ve tried using the available tool, but it defeated me.

This is the scenario: a tiny home tourney with only 4 players. I have chip denominations available up through $10,000. I want to make it a high stakes tourney, with the smallest denom chip used starting at no lower than $100. I can start at $500 chips if needed.

How many of each chip do I give each player to start? What is the optimal amount of different denominations to have in play? I don’t intend to color up any chips, as there are only 4 players.

 

[philhut]

I can never figure out how many chips are needed when trying to structure a tournament. I’ve tried using the available tool, but it defeated me.

This is the scenario: a tiny home tourney with only 4 players. I have chip denominations available up through $10,000. I want to make it a high stakes tourney, with the smallest denom chip used starting at no lower than $100. I can start at $500 chips if needed.

How many of each chip do I give each player to start? What is the optimal amount of different denominations to have in play? I don’t intend to color up any chips, as there are only 4 players.

How long do you want the game to run for? 4 handed I'd imagine 2 hours tops, closer to 60-90 minutes. So 15 blinds perhaps 6-8 levels. t-1500
8×25
8×100
1×500

Lvl 1 - 25/50
Lvl 2- 50/100
Lvl 3- 100/200
Lvl 4- 200/400
Lvl 5- 300/600 *(likely ends here or lvl4)
Lvl 6- 400/800
Lvl 7- 500/1000

 

[coolguy101]

So each person would only get 17 chips total? So, for high stakes it would be $1,000 x8, $5,000 x7, and $10,000 x 1?

 

[BGinGA]

Do a T500-base tournament with 150k stacks (10/10/7/10). Start blinds at 500/1000 (150bb), and color-up the T500/T1000 chips with T5000s. You will need to remove the lowest chip denominations once they are no longer needed, regardless of the number of players.

 

[philhut]

So each person would only get 17 chips total? So, for high stakes it would be $1,000 x8, $5,000 x7, and $10,000 x 1?

Sorry I was thinking high stakes as in a big buy in.....

 

[coolguy101]

Sorry I was thinking high stakes as in a big buy in.....

No, I just hate fracs, so I want to go the other direction

 

[coolguy101]

So, that is 37 chips per person? I’m sorry, but I have no idea what T500 means

 

[OfficerLovejoy]

So, that is 37 chips per person? I’m sorry, but I have no idea what T500 means

T500 base = the (tournament) 500 chip is the lowest or "base" chip.

 

[JustinInMN]

This is the scenario: a tiny home tourney with only 4 players. I have chip denominations available up through $10,000. I want to make it a high stakes tourney, with the smallest denom chip used starting at no lower than $100. I can start at $500 chips if needed.

It would help to know all the possible denominations in between and quantities available. But I will assume you have standard 100, 500, 1000, 5000 denominations plus the 10000 denomination for now.

But given the smallest denom you want to use is 100, let's start blinds at 100-200. Let's have the starting stack be 100x the first BB or 20,000, and let's construct stacks from there.

My local club does base T100 tournament, here's a starting stack pic from a few years ago. That featured 15 * T100, 5 * T500, 7 * T1000 and 2 * T5000 for a total starting stack of T22000. (I believe the tournament was a T20K starting stack with an option "dealer appreciation" add on for T2000 extra.)

So maybe to get to T20000, take one T5000 away and add back 3 * T1000, or a total of 15/5/10/1 of T100/500/1000/5000. 31 chips per player.

Do a T500-base tournament with 150k stacks (10/10/7/10). Start blinds at 500/1000 (150bb), and color-up the T500/T1000 chips with T5000s. You will need to remove the lowest chip denominations once they are no longer needed, regardless of the number of players.

As much as you and I love the T500-base, I don't think it's right for this poster if he doesn't have a T25,000 denomination available.

 

[coolguy101]

I have the typical denominations available, $1, $5, $25, $100, $500, $1,000, $5000, & $10,000.

I want to start using no less than $100, but am open to starting with $500

 

[JustinInMN]

I have the typical denominations available, $1, $5, $25, $100, $500, $1,000, $5000, & $10,000.

I want to start using no less than $100, but am open to starting with $500

Okay, in that case, in all modesty, I think I gave you a good suggestion above.

Start blinds at 100-200 and have starting stacks of T20K using 15*T100, 5*T500, 10*T1000, 1*T5000.

If you do that, you will have T80K in play (4 players * T20K). If you allow rebuys you might get an extra T20-40K in play.

My suggesting T100-base structure would be:
100-200, 100-300, 200-400, 300-600, 400-800, 600-1200, 800-1600, 1200-2400, 1600-3200 (color up T100 and T500 chips, maybe introduce T10000 chips)
2K-4K*, 3K-6K*, 4K-8K, 6K-12K, 8K-16K

*Probable tournament end (20BB rule, also frequently referenced on PCF, tournaments tend not to last any later than when the chips in play represent 20BB or fewer)

Speaking of PCF lingo, there seems to still be some confusion of use of the prefix "T." On the forum, we use "T" instead of a currency symbol ($) whenever we refer to tournament chips as opposed to cash game chips. Tournament chips are merely "points" to be collected until someone has it all, as opposed to cash chips which are redeemable for their exact value upon cash-out. Using a different prefix emphasizes this distinction.

You can obviously use whatever chips you want, but this is just to explain why every poster is using "T" in these posts. We are in the habit of doing this instead of dollar-signs for tournaments.

Examples
T100 - 100 denom tournament chip
T20K stack - A starting stack with chips totaling 20,000 in value.
T100-base - A tournament where T100 is the smallest chip in play.