It would not be a deal breaker or anything for me, but I am not very interested in high hands or bad beats. Poker itself is enough action for me. Only my opinion since you asked.
High Hand in home games (2 Viewers)
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^^^ My thoughts exactly!
Also, if you take large pots, participation of every player would have to be compulsory...
I agree - I wouldn't probably implement a showdown rule for high hand if I were to do it in my home game. Definitely wouldn't allow a hand to be made via chasing the rabbit though.
Doesn't matter anyway for me, if anything my players are looking to "spend' LESS money at our monthly games.
They will get used to and very likely never turn back.
detroitdad
Royal Flush
If I decided to go this route I would of course advertise it in my invite do everyone would be aware of the rule
. I understand. I like it, and I think its a fun, low stakes gimmick to add to the game.
joseywales
Straight
You might be right. It's a social game, but last game there was some tension, because we were waiting for one player to act,but he was engaged in a conversation. He got upset and another player did. I'm just wondering if we shuffle behind and more hands get played, there won't be as much tension to move a hand along. we average 17 HPH (hand per hour), which is pretty low.
Rhodeman77
Straight Flush
The High Hand bonus was kind of mehhhh last night, but so was the game. I only had 5 people show up. One of them had borrowed money to even play and another one I had to pay for some painting work he did on our rental property so each were on only one buy-in for the night.
It was a strange game with very few rebuys or add-on for most of the night.
Though the HH did help keep the player that hit quad Kings with a Q to stay until it was paid at midnight, he had planned on leaving at 11 so it did help in that way.
The quad Kings was hit in the first hour only to be beaten by quad Kings with an A kicker in the same orbit!!
But that player didn’t want to stay until midnight so the HH went back to quad Kings with a Q and held up for the night.
Total money for the HH ended up being $92.
It was a strange game with very few rebuys or add-on for most of the night.
Though the HH did help keep the player that hit quad Kings with a Q to stay until it was paid at midnight, he had planned on leaving at 11 so it did help in that way.
The quad Kings was hit in the first hour only to be beaten by quad Kings with an A kicker in the same orbit!!
But that player didn’t want to stay until midnight so the HH went back to quad Kings with a Q and held up for the night.
Total money for the HH ended up being $92.
WedgeRock
Royal Flush
We always play that you need not be present to win. So KKKKA would have collected the jackpot, whether he stayed or not. If he left, he'd just collect his winnings next time. I kinda like the idea of paying out at a certain time (say midnight), but would still prefer that you need not be present to win.
detroitdad
Royal Flush
The difference I believe is he didn't charge his players to play in the high hand jackpot he only raked the pot, so kind of different circumstances.
WedgeRock
Royal Flush
If I play all night and have my pots raked all night and leave an hour before the HHJ jackpot payouts, is that fair? I'm not knocking Rhodeman's game. As long as he announced the parameters in advance, everyone knew what they were getting into, so its all on the up-and-up.
In your game, I can buy in at 7:00 (paying in to the HHJ), hit a royal at 7:08 and cash out at 7:10. I'll just collect my HHJ next week. Its fair because I paid the same amount as everyone else in the game.
In Rhodeman's game, I understand that if I do the same (buy in at 7:00 and cash out at 7:10) that it wouldn't be fair to let me win the HHJ when you raked only two or three pots that I contributed to. But what about a late buyin? What if I buy in at 11:40 PM, hit a royal at 11:50 PM and the HHJ pays out on midnight? Is that any different? I've only been involved in a few raked hands.
I think that's the rub with a forced/raked HHJ...not every one pays the same. A minor issue is that it actually takes money OUT of the cash game, just like any rake.
In your game, I can buy in at 7:00 (paying in to the HHJ), hit a royal at 7:08 and cash out at 7:10. I'll just collect my HHJ next week. Its fair because I paid the same amount as everyone else in the game.
In Rhodeman's game, I understand that if I do the same (buy in at 7:00 and cash out at 7:10) that it wouldn't be fair to let me win the HHJ when you raked only two or three pots that I contributed to. But what about a late buyin? What if I buy in at 11:40 PM, hit a royal at 11:50 PM and the HHJ pays out on midnight? Is that any different? I've only been involved in a few raked hands.
I think that's the rub with a forced/raked HHJ...not every one pays the same. A minor issue is that it actually takes money OUT of the cash game, just like any rake.
detroitdad
Royal Flush
You wouldn't qualify cuz there's also a starting time you have to be there, say 7:30 to midnight, or something like that
Rhodeman77
Straight Flush
Everyone that was qualified to win played the same amount of time. They had to be at the game by 7:30 and play until midnight. There was one player that showed up a little after 9 and we all kept razzing him that we hoped he would hit a higher hand since he showed up late.
The main idea for me was to get more people to show up at the start of the game to get it going on time.
When the guy that had the HH decided to leave we were all shocked. He only had 1-1/2 hours to go to win the money. For $90 I’d stick around for an extra 1-1/2 hours.
Marc Hedrick
3 of a Kind
Personally, I like the idea and thought about this for the bad beat I did at my game a couple weeks ago. However none of our usual group has ever played with any kind of a rake, so I didnt want to introduce it. And I certainly understand @mike32 comment about just playing poker. So ultimately when I host I will stick with the optional buy in for the HH/BB.
That's really interesting. I think I like it! Keeps the game going. But it could be an issue if the guy that hits HH loses all his poker money early and wants to leave.
EventHorizonVII
Two Pair
He's an adult, he determines his schedule and his desire to walk out busted or hang for a but, eat someone's food and watch TV maybe then get paid. All perception based!
EventHorizonVII
Two Pair
Just to prevent another high hand thread...
What are your thoughts on allowing players who come more than 30 mins late to play but not more than an hour from start (basically players arriving between 7:30-8:00) to by their choice pay a 'late sitting fee' to be eligible for HHJ. A flat fee may work best, say $5 to qualify and that $5 goes to the HHJ pot?
That would be done with the understanding that the pots for the rest of the night will still be raked for the HHJ
What are your thoughts on allowing players who come more than 30 mins late to play but not more than an hour from start (basically players arriving between 7:30-8:00) to by their choice pay a 'late sitting fee' to be eligible for HHJ. A flat fee may work best, say $5 to qualify and that $5 goes to the HHJ pot?
That would be done with the understanding that the pots for the rest of the night will still be raked for the HHJ
Rhodeman77
Straight Flush
I wouldn’t allow it in my game. The main purpose of it and the time requirement is to make sure the game fills up and starts on time.
Allowing someone to buy their way into it defeats that purpose.
We were all talking about how insane (even more so) if the Turn and River were switched!
davethesave
3 of a Kind
anyone have any updated HH jackpots hit or misses ?
Any quirky rules regarding this?
I have tried this, but I like the idea of pulling a piece of the flop every hand to build it. I am a strong believer that you don't have to go to showdown, but you must use both your hole cards... I just do not like the idea of someone falling face first into quads playing face card-rag and walking away with the HH...
thoughts?
Any quirky rules regarding this?
I have tried this, but I like the idea of pulling a piece of the flop every hand to build it. I am a strong believer that you don't have to go to showdown, but you must use both your hole cards... I just do not like the idea of someone falling face first into quads playing face card-rag and walking away with the HH...
thoughts?
TudiscoKid
Pair
Sorry for the bump up, but I found this thread interesting.
I personally also run a High Hand bonus, that I like to call Jackpot.
The way it works is similar, only, a player needs to hit Quads or better, makes for bigger jackpots.
No need to go to showdown, rabbit hunting costs a certain percentage of the jackpot, and only one hole card can be used (maybe some of you will disagree here).
One thing that I do different is that each player needs to add 10% of each of their buy-in/rebuy/add-on to the jackpot, so the Jackpot builds up only upon entry. Maybe I should switch to raking? It would for sure complicate my life as the organizer lol
You can find all my rules about it here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/...1C5IzVZITrdo5tr4c/edit#heading=h.mkbvt1swn4wn
I'm open to feedback!
I personally also run a High Hand bonus, that I like to call Jackpot.
The way it works is similar, only, a player needs to hit Quads or better, makes for bigger jackpots.
No need to go to showdown, rabbit hunting costs a certain percentage of the jackpot, and only one hole card can be used (maybe some of you will disagree here).
One thing that I do different is that each player needs to add 10% of each of their buy-in/rebuy/add-on to the jackpot, so the Jackpot builds up only upon entry. Maybe I should switch to raking? It would for sure complicate my life as the organizer lol
You can find all my rules about it here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/...1C5IzVZITrdo5tr4c/edit#heading=h.mkbvt1swn4wn
I'm open to feedback!
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NotRealNameNoSir
4 of a Kind
Good God, why can only one hole card be used??
This is the way.
I think the main point of high hand and bad beat jackpots is to keep the more gamble-y (usually losing) players in the game.
It can also cause some players to chase iffy draws when they normally might/should not, and to play more hands.
I play in one private game which has HH/BB/72 all on, plus a bomb pot whenever the dealer changes. I don’t care for any of these gimmicks, except that I think they are what is keeping the table full and the worse players coming back.
In that game, the bad beat starts out with a high bar to qualify, but slowly inches down each time no one hits it. (Currently down to AAA22, not sure if the host will bump that down lower to nut flush next game.)
It can also cause some players to chase iffy draws when they normally might/should not, and to play more hands.
I play in one private game which has HH/BB/72 all on, plus a bomb pot whenever the dealer changes. I don’t care for any of these gimmicks, except that I think they are what is keeping the table full and the worse players coming back.
In that game, the bad beat starts out with a high bar to qualify, but slowly inches down each time no one hits it. (Currently down to AAA22, not sure if the host will bump that down lower to nut flush next game.)
Wouldn't the next bump down be to a KKKAA full house?
The nut flush is a long way away.....
TudiscoKid
Pair
Why not?
You don't get to see Quads or even straight flushes every day, I don't aim to have a huge jackpot that gets won every 6 months.
NotRealNameNoSir
4 of a Kind
Maybe there's a language mistake: can I use both hole cards? When its said that ONLY one can be used I figured you meant using both wouldn't work. Nevermind.
TudiscoKid
Pair
Oh, I meant that only one is needed, of course both can be used, but it's not mandatory.
I didn’t express myself correctly there.
What I meant was I’m not sure how low he’ll go.
If it were up to me, I wouldn’t lower it much below AAA22, unless the thing keeps running for another six months… Even then boat over nut flush seems a bit thin for a big jackpot.
moose
4 of a Kind
We take a flat $5/pp at the start of the night. Best hand by the end of the night takes the jackpot. If we hit a Royal Flush, we pay it out immediately and start over with another $5. If someone leaves early and their hand holds up, I hold the cash until I see them again or etransfer it.
Scarney hands are disqualified for HH.
Scarney hands are disqualified for HH.
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