JustinInMN
4 of a Kind
You mean fewer chips.
Controversial Chip & Poker Opinions (10 Viewers)
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CrazyEddie
Full House
that's at least four feet tall, denominations don't get no higher than that
Casino chip tier list:
S: IHC
A: Fat hat, THC, RHC, TRK
B: BCC
C: B&G ceramic
D: Chipco ceramic, Icon ceramic
E: Bud Jones plastic, B&G plastic
F: Gemaco plastic, Matsui plastic
S: IHC
A: Fat hat, THC, RHC, TRK
B: BCC
C: B&G ceramic
D: Chipco ceramic, Icon ceramic
E: Bud Jones plastic, B&G plastic
F: Gemaco plastic, Matsui plastic
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The best solids have spots.
RichMahogany
Straight Flush
The best solids have spots.
All my solid chips have spots, they’re just the same color as the base chip
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Ben8257
Royal Flush
Funny enough, @FordPickup92 noticed that our Silver Club $1 which are 214 are actually 414 but they filled the other 2 spots in with base color, that's how we got the random error 314.
Guessing they don't have a die that cuts 214 as it is not a common spot pattern?
So @HaRDHouSeiNC sent me one yesterday. I cleaned/oiled and went to grab it to take a picture and I see zero evidence of 414 on this one... very strange
But in the picture you can actually see the squares. Top left above the "V" in silver you can see weird lines just to the right side of the hat, on the bottoming is below "AD" in Nevada. Faint on this one but very obvious on some of the others.
CrazyEddie
Full House
By golly, you're right! I can see them!
I can’t see enough in that picture to confirm for sure, but if you say you see it that’s good enough for me.
It’s not the first chip we’ve seen like this. They’re fascinating. So what do we think - it’s a manufacturing mistake? A shot load of them got 414 spots stamped out of them, and the best way to fix the problem it’s just to refill the extra holes?
Cool stuff
AlbinoDragon
Flush
If I recall, BCC didn't have a 214 spot punch and would just punch a 414 and fill the two "empty" spots with the base color.
I'd have to hunt to find an example to post, but I've seen pics that show this.
I am surprised to see this on a Paulson chip as we know they have 214 punches. Maybe this was a "fix" after a punch operator goofed?
I'd have to hunt to find an example to post, but I've seen pics that show this.
I am surprised to see this on a Paulson chip as we know they have 214 punches. Maybe this was a "fix" after a punch operator goofed?
Jeevansluck
Royal Flush
Ughhhhhhhh!!! This “tier” thing is harsh. No TRK mentioned. Blasphemy!
There is NO WAY BCC is on the same level as Chipco or the like. Not even the same league or even the same sport if you ask me.
I’m an owner of BCC and it’s not even a close determination.
YMMV
Only one appropriate response Jeevs.
TRK added, totally forgot about it.
Sorry BCC fans, I’m not a fan of BCC which reflects on the list.
Why? Sometimes the inlay isn’t completely circular.
Ben8257
Royal Flush
Have you played a set of BCCs? They definitely had their QC issues... but when they got it right, they literally made some of the most amazing chips ever. Not necessarily by looks even thought they had some of the most amazing colors ever produced (@JMC9389 please share those neon yellow HS long horn chip) but it is the "feel" they are more dense than Paulson and those that do own them, love them. But I understand maybe not for all! But to judge based of a single chip seems odd
Jeevansluck
Royal Flush
Imperfect sometimes makes perfect.
Imperfect sometimes makes perfect.
Wow those aqua 5000s are something else
I never played with BCC on home poker plus don't have a set. However, I played at Hustler Casino and they have both RHC and BCC 1s and 5s. Their inlays were pretty messed up, so I think I only know the BCC chips with QC issues. I was judging more of this experience, but I don't have a picture.
Which ones are nice BCC chips w/o QC issues? I agree they are better than B&G ceramics, maybe an edit to the tier list. I like ceramics (but not as much as Paulsons) compared to most people here who don't like them.
RainmanTrail
Straight Flush
The web mold Riverboats are pretty epic chips. They might actually be the best chips I've ever seen from a QC perspective. When stacked in barrels, it's difficult to tell where one chip ends and the next chip begins. BCC is funny like that. They are just all over the place quality wise. Some chips are complete garbage, some are mediocre, and others are the cream of the crop.
If you ever get a chance to play with some BCC Riverboats, you’ll have a much different opinion.
Literally read my mind Travis.
Amazing pron @RainmanTrail I think I've only seen the crappy ones. In my singles collection, I think I only have the ones with QC issues.
My tier list is based on chips for casino use than home sets, so if BCC made nicer home sets than casino use then I didn't know about them. My local casino uses Bud Jones and I wish they used Paulsons. QC wise, BCC is much nicer than Bud Jones. I've seen Bud Jones with cracks and scratched inlay that you can't really see the inlay artwork.
Oh wow, they stack so nicely probably never seen something good like that, much better than my barrel of brand new Paris 2s and IG pri 25ks which I can see the ends of each chip.
Also, show us your BCC pron @Ben8257
My tier list is based on chips for casino use than home sets, so if BCC made nicer home sets than casino use then I didn't know about them. My local casino uses Bud Jones and I wish they used Paulsons. QC wise, BCC is much nicer than Bud Jones. I've seen Bud Jones with cracks and scratched inlay that you can't really see the inlay artwork.
Oh wow, they stack so nicely probably never seen something good like that, much better than my barrel of brand new Paris 2s and IG pri 25ks which I can see the ends of each chip.
Also, show us your BCC pron @Ben8257
To be fair, @greenchip said it was a casino chip tier list. What BCC casino sets have made it to the home market? Garden City (cash) and Aquasino (tourney) are the only sets I can think of offhand that I've seen in playable quantities. Luck Derby $2s are out there as well IIRC. Then there are the Fun Nite chips on the Sun Mold (apparently Flower Mold now) with their interesting backstory, but those aren't technically casino chips. The Sun Mold may be better than the Flame Mold (aka Shell Mold), but it's nowhere near as nice as the Web, C&S, MGK, (Interlocking) T, and Suits Molds. I've never played with the TFP or Courts and Numerals Molds, but I know those both have fans on this forum as well. Did BCC do 39mm no molds? Those would probably rate higher than the Sun and Flame Molds too. So Casino BCCs are basically on their 2nd or 3rd worst mold by my account.
I see that @greenchip just posted, but I'm not going to re-write my post. Instead, this is what BCCs can look like when they do things right:
I see that @greenchip just posted, but I'm not going to re-write my post. Instead, this is what BCCs can look like when they do things right:
Jeevansluck
Royal Flush
What about samples of other cool BCCs…wish I had me a set of these…
Let’s go!
Listen, putting RHC on the same level as THC and TRK is just wrong. It’s borderline sociopathic. I don’t even think it’s a matter of opinion. I bet if you put it to a vote, PCFers would put RHC in a lower tier than THC at a rate of something like 90%, even with broad tiers.
If you had two tiers, sure, put all the clays in one tier and the dice chips in the other (and Jesus can decide where to put the ceramics and the “high end” plastics, I really don’t care.) But I swear, once you get to even a 3rd tier, you have room to bump RHC down a notch. BUMP THAT SHIT DOWN!!!!!
And As far as TRK goes, I might rank it below BCC.
My biggest gripe about TRKs is the the dainty little bashful edge spots. They typically only extend about halfway into the shoulders of the chip and that tilts the hell out of me, much in the same way I’m tilted by giant inlays obscuring half the edge spot. Honest to god, every time a look at a TRK, no matter how gorgeous, there’s part of me that wistfully sighs, if only they had real assertive big bold edge spots.
Also, the small crown mold is just crazy overrated. I will admit and agree that the finish to those chips is stunning - the fact that there is a seemless transition from clay to inlay across the face of the chip is somehow supernatural. It’s one of the greatest things in chipping IMO, and strangely doesn’t get discussed enough. But everything else about the mold is meh.
Overall, TRKs are brilliant chips, 100%. But if we have to rank then, they’ll never get ahead of THCs and I don’t think I can put them ahead of BCCs either.
My biggest gripe about TRKs is the the dainty little bashful edge spots. They typically only extend about halfway into the shoulders of the chip and that tilts the hell out of me, much in the same way I’m tilted by giant inlays obscuring half the edge spot. Honest to god, every time a look at a TRK, no matter how gorgeous, there’s part of me that wistfully sighs, if only they had real assertive big bold edge spots.
Also, the small crown mold is just crazy overrated. I will admit and agree that the finish to those chips is stunning - the fact that there is a seemless transition from clay to inlay across the face of the chip is somehow supernatural. It’s one of the greatest things in chipping IMO, and strangely doesn’t get discussed enough. But everything else about the mold is meh.
Overall, TRKs are brilliant chips, 100%. But if we have to rank then, they’ll never get ahead of THCs and I don’t think I can put them ahead of BCCs either.
You guys want a hot take? Here's my tier list. Tier 1 being the best.
Tier 1:
Leaded shaped inlay THC
BCC Web, MGK molds
Tier 2:
Leaded round inlay THC
BCC C+S mold, T mold, and all other molds except flame mold
Tier 3:
CPC DSQ mold
CPC B mold
CPC Jockey mold
Leaded TRK's
Tier 4:
Paulson unleaded THC
Paulson Leaded RHC
Paulson Suits mold
CPC HHR mold
CPC CSQ mold
CPC large crown mold
CPC H mold
CPC 44mm A mold and 44mm scroll mold
Tier 5:
All other CPC molds not mentioned above
Paulson unleaded RHC
Paulson unleaded 43mm and above
Sunfly polyinno 43mm
Ceramic 47/43mm
Tier 6:
Ceramic 39mm
Sunfly Polyinno 39mm
Tier 7:
Abbiatti plastic
Bud Jones plastic
Tier 8:
Gemaco plastic
Matsui plastic
Tier 9:
China clays (all sizes)
Tier 10:
Dice chips and other slugged heavy "casino weight" fake clay
I said what I said.
Tier 1:
Leaded shaped inlay THC
BCC Web, MGK molds
Tier 2:
Leaded round inlay THC
BCC C+S mold, T mold, and all other molds except flame mold
Tier 3:
CPC DSQ mold
CPC B mold
CPC Jockey mold
Leaded TRK's
Tier 4:
Paulson unleaded THC
Paulson Leaded RHC
Paulson Suits mold
CPC HHR mold
CPC CSQ mold
CPC large crown mold
CPC H mold
CPC 44mm A mold and 44mm scroll mold
Tier 5:
All other CPC molds not mentioned above
Paulson unleaded RHC
Paulson unleaded 43mm and above
Sunfly polyinno 43mm
Ceramic 47/43mm
Tier 6:
Ceramic 39mm
Sunfly Polyinno 39mm
Tier 7:
Abbiatti plastic
Bud Jones plastic
Tier 8:
Gemaco plastic
Matsui plastic
Tier 9:
China clays (all sizes)
Tier 10:
Dice chips and other slugged heavy "casino weight" fake clay
I said what I said.
Now THAT is controversial...
Well let’s talk it out. It’s just a very simple design. And for those people who love simplicity, great, you’re home.
But I don’t think there’s much about it that draws the eye. They certainly feel like the nuts though - I won’t argue with that.
(This of course refers to TRK leaded small crowns - I havent handled the CPC version)
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