Tourney Chris Manzoni Home Game Homework (2 Viewers)

[CurtainCallCasino]

Alright good people.
I've been doing my reading but I think its time to ask for help

I've got a group of up to 10 I want to host some good ol no limit hold em for.
We want to run a mix of cash and tournaments and Chris's videos so far have been incredibly helpful in finding that fabulous focus on fun and fellowship I'm aiming for.

Following his video for the most part here's what I got.

Let's say if focusing a STT.

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-Starting Stacks
8xt25
8xt100
4xt500
7xt1000
2xt5000
(Plus 2 extra 1000 for showing up on time)
(Plus 1 500 for exact change)

-Blinds (20 min levels)
25/50
50/100
75/150
100/200
150/300
BREAK color up 25s
200/400 (400) (Big Blind Ante)
300/600 (600)
500/1000 (1000)
800/1600 (1600)
1000/2000 (1000)
1000/3000 (3000)
2000/4000 (4000)
3000/6000 (6000)
5000/10000 (10000)
8000/16000 (16000)
BREAK color up 1000s
10000/20000 (20k)
15000/30000 (30k)
20000/40000 (40k)

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So I am assuming the Ante would be the first thing to go.
What about the starting stacks? Should these be altered having only 1 table in play?

What about for our separate cash set?

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-Starting Stacks (Cash)
20x .25
20x 1
5x 5

Or for a micro game
10x.10
18x .25
15x 1

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We will all be pooling together to get some nicer chips (yes I do have samples in the mail) but one of my main things I want to be aware of is how many chips to purchase.
Chris's recommendations for single tables are as follows.

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STT
80xt25
80xt100
70xt500 (10 for exact change)
80xt1000 (20 for on time)
40xt5000 (350 chips)

Cash
200x .25
200x 1
100x 5
20x 25 (520 chips)

Or for micro

100x .10
200x .25
200x 1
100x 5

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What am I missing?
What would you recommend, if anything be changed?

Thank you so much for your guidance on yet another home game start up thread

I appreciate you!
-Alex

 

[Preditor]

Focusing on the tournament part.

I love Chris' videos and they were a big inspo when I got my own home game started (especially love the seating and colorup videos). You can't go wrong if you just want to carbon copy his recs.

That being said - after doing my own experimenting and research - there are a few items I've tweaked.

STARTING STACKS
A 12/12/5/6 starting stack is perfectly viable, especially for an STT. Really though it depends on your players; if your players are new-ish to poker, giving them more physical chips I believe actually loosens their play. Chris says the number of chips gets out of control, but I think that only applies once you get to two full tables or more, and his games seem to run 3 tables on average.

If you do a smaller starting stack, do 8/8/4/7, not 8/8/6/6. You need the fewest T500 chips in a tournament set; having the same number of T500 and T1Ks in your starting stack is necessary. There is never a bet in a tourney that needs more than a single 500 chip.

To get the proper amount of chips, you'll need to do your own math. The great thing about a 12/12/5/6 stack though is that - if you do ever expand to 2 tables - it makes it easier to use the same tournament set by just dialing it down to 8/8/4/7.

BLIND STRUCTURE
For blind structure, I started my home game using Chris' blind structure, but over time I tweaked it after the first break, where it felt it suddenly got super aggressive. With the exception of level 1 to 2, Chris' structure has the BB consistently increasing 33% and 50% every other level; but then at level 7 there is suddenly a 66% increase from 300/600 to 500/1K; then a 60% increase from 500/1K to 800/1600.

After playing a few times with it, this part felt suddenly very aggressive (not to mention you've just added the BBA at this point). So I experimented to find a smoother increase. I added one level, and I do the following:

300/600
400/800 ***added level***
600/1200 ***changed from 500/1000***
800/1600

This adds one 20 minute level, but you'll notice each blind increase alternates between 33% and 50%. I personally love the consistency.

Ultimately, you do you! Experiment with different structures. Tweak it. Play with it.

 

[allforcharity]

Don't use 0.10 with 0.25 for cash.

Use either 0.05 with 0.25 or 0.10 with 0.50.

 

[CurtainCallCasino]

Don't use 0.10 with 0.25 for cash.

Use either 0.05 with 0.25 or 0.10 with 0.50.

Thank you!
Naturally that would follow to use 20 .5 instead of 10 .10.

More chips on the table! Sounds fun

If you do a smaller starting stack, do 8/8/4/7, not 8/8/6/6. You need the fewest T500 chips in a tournament set; having the same number of T500 and T1Ks in your starting stack is necessary. There is never a bet in a tourney that needs more than a single 500 chip.

Yeah! I can't remeber who I saw recommended the 8/8/4/7 on here but thats the one I intended to use.

Thank you for the Blinds suggestions too. I like consistency so we will definitely give that a shot!

 

[Colquhoun]

For the cash game, what is the buy-in? That will determine the blinds and chips needed.

 

[CurtainCallCasino]

For the cash game, what is the buy-in? That will determine the blinds and chips needed.

A box of oreos and a smile!


I believe chris had his set at 50$ and 20$ respectively.
Though I imagine my group would want to start at a bare minimum of like 5$ to start before I can convince them otherwise