Tourney 10k/25K Stack Breakdown With Fewest Possible 1000s? (2 Viewers)

[jadillon]

So I am considering developing a set of plaques to use with multiple 16 person tournament sets that I want to use to run both a 10k and a 25k Tourney. All these sets have 160 T500 chips and no T1000 chips, and it is not practical to increase the number of T500s. I also want to minimize the number of T1000s as they will be costly plaques. Two questions for folks familiar with breakdowns for these higher denom tourneys.

First, does anyone think that 12-12-7-5 (25,100,500,1000) will not work just fine as a breakdown for the 10k tourney? I have played in and run tourneys with similar breakdowns (12-12-5-6 or 8-8-4-7 for instance).

Second, for the 25k tourney would 15-7-5-3 (100,500,1000,5000) work or do I need to go to 15-7-10-2? 15-7-10-2 would produce the need for an awfully high number of of 1k plaques.

Thoughts appreciated....

 

[BGinGA]

Ditch the T1000 plaque idea entirely, and go straight from your existing T500 chips to T2000 plaques. No matter how you are using them, you won't need as many.

T10K stacks:
12 x T25
12 x T100
5 x T500
3 x T2000
or
12 x T25
12 x T100
9 x T500
2 x T2000


T25K stacks:
15 x T100
7 x T500
10 x T2000
or
15 x T100
7 x T500
5 x T2000
1 x T10000
or
10 x T100
8 x T500
5 x T2000
1 x T10000

My personal preferences are shown in blue.

 

[jadillon]

Ditch the T1000 plaque idea entirely, and go straight from your existing T500 chips to T2000 plaques. No matter how you are using them, you won't need as many.

T10K stacks:
12 x T25
12 x T100
5 x T500
3 x T2000
or
12 x T25
12 x T100
9 x T500
2 x T2000


T25K stacks:
15 x T100
7 x T500
10 x T2000
or
15 x T100
7 x T500
5 x T2000
1 x T10000
or
10 x T100
8 x T500
5 x T2000
1 x T10000

My personal preferences are shown in blue.

Like the idea, but I can't figure out how to do a 25,000 re-buy without a 1k or a 5k (I need about 6-7 re-buys). Ideas? I suppose I could just add a few 5k plaques, but still use the 2k as the workhorse....

 

[BGinGA]

25K re-buy:
2 x T10000
2 x T2000
2 x T500 (or 10 x T100)

 

[jadillon]

Ah, but those re-buys violate the self-imposed "there are no more than 160 T500s" rule, unless we drop all the way to 3 T500s and 6 T2000s (15-3-6-1). I also have just the number of T100s I need (240). I don't mind a third plaque design. (y) :thumbsup:

 

[BGinGA]

those re-buys violate the self-imposed "there are no more than 160 T500s" rule, unless we drop all the way to 3 T500s and 6 T2000s (15-3-6-1). I also have just the number of T100s I need (240)

Not according to my calculations based on the supplied info:

16 person tournament sets
All these sets have 160 T500 chips
I also have just the number of T100s I need (240)

Typical re-buy rate for tournaments is 25% to 33%. Below numbers are based on 16-player fields with 50% re-buys.


T10K stacks
12 x T25
12 x T100
9 x T500
2 x T2000

required set:
192 x T25
192 x T100
144 x T500
45 x T2000 (includes 13 for T25/T100 color-up)
8 x T10000 (used for 8 re-buys)



T25K stacks
10 x T100
8 x T500
5 x T2000
1 x T10000

25K re-buys
2 x T500 (or 10 x T100)
2 x T2000
2 x T10000

required set:
160 x T100 (240 if using 10 x T100 for 8 re-buys)
128 x T500 (144 if using 2 x T500 for 8 re-buys)
104 x T2000 (includes 8 for T100 color-up and 16 for 8 re-buys)
24 x T10000 (includes 16 for 8 re-buys)

 

[jadillon]

Great! Thanks. I have been building in color ups along the way (in the way the CT Poker Chip Calculator does).That is why our numbers are slightly different. You have deferred all the T100 rebuys to the "end" or the T2000s. I bought the T100s out with T500s and thus the difference.

 

[Mental Nomad]

You can also consider $2500 plaques. A little odd, but straightforward progression, plaque-efficient, and easy rebuys.

 

[BGinGA]

Two downsides to using T2500 plaques instead of T2000:

1. Will take ten plaques per re-buy vs just four (unless also keeping the T10K plaque)
2. T2500 doesn't work as well as T2000 for later blind levels without modification or keeping T500s in play for a long time.