I thought the discussions on the other site were great. Some were heated, but everyone got to share their point of view without worrying about moderation. It seemed the ending was due to the issue where an individual’s information was given out by someone with site access to it. That was a bad deal.
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I thought the discussions on the other site were great. Some were heated, but everyone got to share their point of view without worrying about moderation. It seemed the ending was due to the issue where an individual’s information was given out by someone with site access to it. That was a bad deal.
Chippy McChiperson
4 of a Kind
The doxing was bad, for sure, but I don't think anyone disputes that. I thought that the site was shut down because the site owner had some upcoming family stuff and wasn't going to be able to devote time to running it, although maybe the negative feedback he got from the doxing contributed.
detroitdad
Royal Flush
that's what i thought.
RichMahogany
Straight Flush
Yup this was exactly what happened
gopherblue
Straight Flush
It’s a shame then that your exposure to Jack’s posts was so limited. He deeply cared about this hobby and was a supportive member. He also has a wicked sense of humor and a lightning-fast wit to match it. Yes, he didn’t suffer fools gladly, but you say that like it’s a bad thing.
justsomedude
Straight Flush
Thank you for clarifying everyone. I don't want to be spreading fake news. Ugh.
gopherblue
Straight Flush
The best part of the whole Boat Buy debacle was that both sides blamed me. That was just super.
Chippy McChiperson
4 of a Kind
blamed?
You know what is getting a lot of national attention? The Coronavirus! We have people here in the U.S. who won't go outside their homes without a face mask. Look, I get it. But if you are worried about probabilities, why aren't you wearing a bulletproof vest?
superchromix
Full House
Personally I found the hobby more fun before the Paulson group buys started, when there was an attitude of “we’re all in it together”.
After the group buys emerged, along with the profiteering by some of the participants, one was left with the impression that there was an elite group of chippers who would be in on such deals, and then there was the rest of us who would be out.
Now, in the background, everyone is constantly aware that whichever member you’re chatting with at any given moment might be organizing a secret group buy to buy new Paulson chips at ~$1.5/chip, and planning resell at five times that price. It’s happened a few times now.
Anyway, this post is not meant to restart any discussion of the group buys, but that is the time when the hobby changed for me personally (Nov. 2017).
After the group buys emerged, along with the profiteering by some of the participants, one was left with the impression that there was an elite group of chippers who would be in on such deals, and then there was the rest of us who would be out.
Now, in the background, everyone is constantly aware that whichever member you’re chatting with at any given moment might be organizing a secret group buy to buy new Paulson chips at ~$1.5/chip, and planning resell at five times that price. It’s happened a few times now.
Anyway, this post is not meant to restart any discussion of the group buys, but that is the time when the hobby changed for me personally (Nov. 2017).
I remember that being discussed, but the timing of it was what made me wonder. There were A LOT of people that were shocked and appalled at the doxing. I know several people immediately left the site because of that, including a moderator.
markleteenie
4 of a Kind
I used to think $1/chip was so much for a game token...even too much.
Things change. People change.
Overall, this community has been awesome to me and allows me to play more poker than before and I’ve met some genuinely good people. Win.
Things change. People change.
Overall, this community has been awesome to me and allows me to play more poker than before and I’ve met some genuinely good people. Win.
I've literally spent the last 3 hours trying to decide on whether or not to comment on this topic and have ultimately decided to do so.
When I originally joined this forum, it was to research different poker chips and get different perspectives on the different types of poker chips available. What I found when I got here was quite different from what I expected. I found a bunch of seemingly good-natured people who all share a passion for poker and poker accessories (not just chips). I've gotten everything from a poker economics conversation when I first got here (thanks @Highli99 ) to getting and old fashioned recipe from @Beakertwang .
While the classifieds were what I originally began to pay attention to because of the opportunity to score some pretty awesome chips at solid prices (most of the time), I've learned that this site has so much more to offer. I've enjoyed reading strategy threads (particularly from @DrStrange and @Legend5555 ) and have incorporated a lot of that strategy into my game now. I've gotten to see more information on tournaments than I'd ever imagine. I seriously believe @BGinGA has forgotten more information about tourney's then I'll ever know. I also get to experience other great things; the Scrub Donkey Group buy, the out of context thread LOL, and the P* tourneys where I donate money to @davin regularly LOL.
With all of that being said, every experience is not a positive one. However, I choose not to hold the site (nor the hobby) accountable for anything negative. I choose to believe that anytime you have anything held in a public forum, there will be a wide array of personalities. This will ultimately lead to conflict. Everyone sees things from their own perspective, and everyone's opinion will differ.
I say all of that to say that I don't believe that you should allow things that you can not control change your view of what this site or this hobby is to you. Stick with what you can control, and hold true to your core values. Whatever makes this hobby enjoyable to you, continue to do that. If you see something occurring that you believe is not what this hobby is about, call it out (still abiding by the rules of course), and help others share the experience they way that you do. Ignore the stuff that you can't control. It's not worth the stress. I'd venture to say that approximately 98% of the experiences here are truly great, and my opinion of the other 2% are not necessarily bad, but maybe just more misunderstood or we've had a miscommunication that hasn't been resolved. I'll live with those odds every day of my life.
Thanks @Tommy for creating such an awesome site! Without you and the people here, I'd still be inviting people over to my dice chip games and having to constantly explain that the green chip at my house is $1 no matter what it is at the casino.
-Shorticus
When I originally joined this forum, it was to research different poker chips and get different perspectives on the different types of poker chips available. What I found when I got here was quite different from what I expected. I found a bunch of seemingly good-natured people who all share a passion for poker and poker accessories (not just chips). I've gotten everything from a poker economics conversation when I first got here (thanks @Highli99 ) to getting and old fashioned recipe from @Beakertwang .
While the classifieds were what I originally began to pay attention to because of the opportunity to score some pretty awesome chips at solid prices (most of the time), I've learned that this site has so much more to offer. I've enjoyed reading strategy threads (particularly from @DrStrange and @Legend5555 ) and have incorporated a lot of that strategy into my game now. I've gotten to see more information on tournaments than I'd ever imagine. I seriously believe @BGinGA has forgotten more information about tourney's then I'll ever know. I also get to experience other great things; the Scrub Donkey Group buy, the out of context thread LOL, and the P* tourneys where I donate money to @davin regularly LOL.
With all of that being said, every experience is not a positive one. However, I choose not to hold the site (nor the hobby) accountable for anything negative. I choose to believe that anytime you have anything held in a public forum, there will be a wide array of personalities. This will ultimately lead to conflict. Everyone sees things from their own perspective, and everyone's opinion will differ.
I say all of that to say that I don't believe that you should allow things that you can not control change your view of what this site or this hobby is to you. Stick with what you can control, and hold true to your core values. Whatever makes this hobby enjoyable to you, continue to do that. If you see something occurring that you believe is not what this hobby is about, call it out (still abiding by the rules of course), and help others share the experience they way that you do. Ignore the stuff that you can't control. It's not worth the stress. I'd venture to say that approximately 98% of the experiences here are truly great, and my opinion of the other 2% are not necessarily bad, but maybe just more misunderstood or we've had a miscommunication that hasn't been resolved. I'll live with those odds every day of my life.
Thanks @Tommy for creating such an awesome site! Without you and the people here, I'd still be inviting people over to my dice chip games and having to constantly explain that the green chip at my house is $1 no matter what it is at the casino.
-Shorticus
Please, please.... Let's not add firearms, politics, active shooter, etc to this post. It's a delicate balance, even this smooth of communication about the boat chips... I'm not even saying it to take sides, but I just dont want this to devolve into hydra of drama.
I'd say, if that is a interesting topic, I would even add to it in the politics forum, but again, I can see this going south in minutes if this expands that direction.
PhilLaFond
Straight
There have been times...
Now you're the anti-troll??
Too new here to be opinionated, but a golden rule is that if you want any group of humans to behave and interact in a specific spectrum of ways, then regulate!
Again, this is not a Polity; nobody is born into this, and nobody is paying taxes to the Administrator. It's just the latter's lawn party, where the rest of us are all guests.
On another note, I was particularly moved by @slisk250 's post about sets not having a chance to be played with, anytime soon.
I' m afraid poker chip sets in the hands of hoarders are just like slave Christian girls in the Ottoman Sultan's Harem.
His Divine Majesty, Chief/Khalif of all the Faithful (ie Muslims), Lord of the Horizon, Terror of the Infidels (Christians) had hundreds of beauties in store.
Your odds, as sex slave, to give birth to the next Sultan were less than 1 to 50
Again, this is not a Polity; nobody is born into this, and nobody is paying taxes to the Administrator. It's just the latter's lawn party, where the rest of us are all guests.
On another note, I was particularly moved by @slisk250 's post about sets not having a chance to be played with, anytime soon.
I' m afraid poker chip sets in the hands of hoarders are just like slave Christian girls in the Ottoman Sultan's Harem.
His Divine Majesty, Chief/Khalif of all the Faithful (ie Muslims), Lord of the Horizon, Terror of the Infidels (Christians) had hundreds of beauties in store.
Your odds
, as sex slave, to give birth to the next Sultan were less than 1 to 50
Nah, this is one of the few times people arnt attacking. It's stayed on topic and it's actually been helpful. Call it me attempting to keep the healing circle while we can.
And I've enjoyed the discussion.
your sayings are almost always phrases I've not heard before and are quite Amusing. This one gave me the lols.
My exposure to Jacks posts were not limited, I’m sure I read most of them starting in 2008 when I joined CT. I also didn’t say he was always a DB, because I enjoyed some content from both him and bergs. Heaven help you if you ever had a perspective he couldn’t understand though, things could get personal quickly.
Bergs online persona was just too loud for my liking, barging into threads talking over everyone wanting (too much) to be heard.
In their saner moments I enjoyed content from both of them. If both of them were back tomorrow I would readily try to accept them. Right now, I don’t really miss them.
heisman
Two Pair
I used to shudder at Apache's prices for a cash set of Monacos. Those were $0.91 per. Now I don't even blink at $350 racks. Ignorance was bliss
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On another note, I was particularly moved by @slisk250 's post about sets not having a chance to be played with, anytime soon.
I' m afraid poker chip sets in the hands of hoarders are just like slave Christian girls in the Ottoman Sultan's Harem.
His Divine Majesty, Chief/Khalif of all the Faithful (ie Muslims), Lord of the Horizon, Terror of the Infidels (Christians) had hundreds of beauties in store.
Your odds
We've moved your post to the sexslaveforum.com site, for purposes of context.
I 've been too young to join that, till recently
slisk250
Straight Flush
yeah he was scapegoated as a boat buy leak. Complete story was bullshit.
don’t know what happened on your side of the fence.
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slisk250
Straight Flush
Too new here to be opinionated, but a golden rule is that if you want any group of humans to behave and interact in a specific spectrum of ways, then regulate!
Again, this is not a Polity; nobody is born into this, and nobody is paying taxes to the Administrator. It's just the latter's lawn party, where the rest of us are all guests.
On another note, I was particularly moved by @slisk250 's post about sets not having a chance to be played with, anytime soon.
I' m afraid poker chip sets in the hands of hoarders are just like slave Christian girls in the Ottoman Sultan's Harem.
His Divine Majesty, Chief/Khalif of all the Faithful (ie Muslims), Lord of the Horizon, Terror of the Infidels (Christians) had hundreds of beauties in store.
Your odds
to be fair now the chances are probably 1 to 25..I only hoard my customs and sold most others
I noted a couple years ago a mention of private conversation group where discussion/trashing of other members was allegedly occurring.
Some people never really graduate from junior high; but that doesn’t reduce the site’s value. Let the mean girls have their fun.
Anyway... Scarcity is the root issue IMHO. Whenever you have a commodity with few new inputs, prices are going to head inevitably upward.
So unless people are happy to break even or take small losses on past purchases they no longer need (which is my approach, unless I can make a modest profit while still undercutting the higher prices), then inflation is inevitable.
That said, in my relatively short time here—about three years?—I’ve seen bull markets turn to bears. For example, I’d say that Starburst solids pricing started to get silly a few years ago, but has settled down quite a bit. But that of course is a type of chip where there is a pretty large overall supply, except in rare colors. And people still make “finds” from garage/estate/FB/Craigslist sales which helps feed supply.
It shouldn’t surprise that when a new, well-designed Paulson chipset (boats, BTPs, SBs, JDs) hits that there is a fever to grab these, and prices run up—because there is so much pent-up demand. It would take a lot more frequent casino closings/sales to dampen those markets.
Harvesting is the other main new “input” to the chip market that I can think of, but this seems mostly limited to 1s and 2s, and very occasionally 5s.
So unless people are happy to break even or take small losses on past purchases they no longer need (which is my approach, unless I can make a modest profit while still undercutting the higher prices), then inflation is inevitable.
That said, in my relatively short time here—about three years?—I’ve seen bull markets turn to bears. For example, I’d say that Starburst solids pricing started to get silly a few years ago, but has settled down quite a bit. But that of course is a type of chip where there is a pretty large overall supply, except in rare colors. And people still make “finds” from garage/estate/FB/Craigslist sales which helps feed supply.
It shouldn’t surprise that when a new, well-designed Paulson chipset (boats, BTPs, SBs, JDs) hits that there is a fever to grab these, and prices run up—because there is so much pent-up demand. It would take a lot more frequent casino closings/sales to dampen those markets.
Harvesting is the other main new “input” to the chip market that I can think of, but this seems mostly limited to 1s and 2s, and very occasionally 5s.
slisk250
Straight Flush
There is one bright spot in the price increases. Before, I would have never ever considered walking into a casino, buying 4 racks of new THC 5s and walking out. Now if the chips have great spots, I'd do it without hesitation if they are new.
justsomedude
Straight Flush
Another bright spot / unintended consequence of absurd prices... Custom chips by CPC are now a very attractive option.
In the past, I would've thought spending $3.50-$4.50 per chip on a custom set was absurd, especially when pretty Paulsons were available at $2-$3 each. But with closed-casino Paulsons and the (seems to be yearly) NAGB chips hitting (flipping?) the market at $7, $8, $9, $10/chip and more... custom CPCs are suddenly a bargain, and I can get the exact design/colors I want.
I'll be ordering my first custom CPC set this spring. And it's a perfect example of the "invisible hand" pushing me there.
Forty4
Full House
Finally doing the Aperture set?
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