I've seen these issues with the salmon chips too.The best description is they are oblong (at least in my opinion and some others on the forums). This has not affected chip handling (like shuffling or cutting stacks), but I have also not gotten them into a game just yet.
The blacks and blues seem to be the only ones suffering this issue as the other colors are perfect it seems (as shown with green). If you spin the chips in the rack, new ones would be popping up and appear larger, so they are not physically bigger or anything, just oblong (i hate using the word but it fits). They are still amazing chips and maybe it bothers me a bit more due to OCD, but I would love the set that much more if they did not have the issue.
Here are a few pics:
Blacks
Blue
Green
Majestics or Pharaohs? (1 Viewer)
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Wils
Flush
(Cough) just get the CPS chips (cough)
This would bother me more than stack height issues. Stack height problems don't usually come into play in a game, unless you count in stacks of 20 or 30 for some reason. That oblong issue looks pretty severe and would just drive me nuts. But at least you can identify the colors that have a problem and not buy those ones.The best description is they are oblong (at least in my opinion and some others on the forums). This has not affected chip handling (like shuffling or cutting stacks), but I have also not gotten them into a game just yet.
The blacks and blues seem to be the only ones suffering this issue as the other colors are perfect it seems (as shown with green). If you spin the chips in the rack, new ones would be popping up and appear larger, so they are not physically bigger or anything, just oblong (i hate using the word but it fits). They are still amazing chips and maybe it bothers me a bit more due to OCD, but I would love the set that much more if they did not have the issue.
Here are a few pics:
Blacks
Blue
Green
Did they ever figure out what caused it? Was it a mold issue, or maybe they stacked them too high when they were "hot off the press"?
Somebody mentioned above that it doesn't bother them at this price point. I don't think I would give them a pass due to low price, given that the cheapest dice chips don't have any trouble being round.
ChipTalker
Flush
FYI I do not believe they are oblong, I have a bunch of Majestics and did see the issues with blue and black. I just bought a few extra barrels and weeded out the smaller ones causing the issues and now I have smooth racks or at least very close to and it is acceptable to me whereas before it was not.
I think the theory was that one of the molds was not machined to the same specifications as the majority of other molds used.
Correct me if I am wrong (and I know PCF will)
As to the OP, I haven't handled the Majestics yet, but the Pharaohs are pretty good as far as china clays go. My decision to go with Pharaohs over PGI was due to a couple of reasons. The PGI chips had the best feel IMO, but the gray chip was very brittle. I was worried that the others may chip also. The main deciding factor though was that the Pharaohs had multiple edge spot patterns. If I were to do it over again, I would choose PGI over Pharaohs because the Pharaoh mold design doesn't fit very many custom labeled sets, and certainly not mine. This isn't an issue with the Majestics though. I love that mold. Personally the oblong issue would be a huge factor if I were considering Majestics.
glworden
Sitting Out
You didn't mention Milanos. Also a nice chip with a nice label that is easy to read. Is there really a composition difference in the materials of the Milanos, Pharoahs and Majestics? All China Clays, probably same factory, probably same batch of plastic. I can't tell a difference, so it comes down to appearance. I personally don't like the mold of the Milanos - they look like a tire, especially the blacks. I like the different edge spots on the Pharoahs, but big label = less chip visible. And the Majestics are nice but why the black label? And I also got samples of the PGI Great Wall, Great Pyramid and Trapezoid. The Trapezoids are Milano blanks with custom labels. Straight Poker in Toronto sells a Milano version with the Crazy Horse label. The Great Wall and Great Pyramid are a little more squared off than the Pharoah/Milano/Majestic. More like a Paulson in that regard. But I think they are only available custom, so that doubles your price point.
And at that price point, around 70 to 80 cents, you open up the whole world of custom ceramics. A little more and you can start getting into custom clays from CPC. While you can spend a couple bucks or more, very simple designs are just over a buck.
I am a few weeks ahead of you in the process, having bought many many samples but still racking my brain, and watching my discipline slip as I set my sights higher Why not Paulsons?).
Today I bought 150 Paulson $25 President Casino New Yorker chips. Got a great deal (less than a buck) from Apache, so felt like I couldn't pass them up.
I don't know whether I will be able to get other denoms to fill out a set. But what if I get other denoms with other labels? Why the heck not?
My current plan is to get 500 custom chips from Lynbark designs. Great quality and easy to work with. By playing the Paulson greens with higher denom ceramics, we get to handle both types of chips and perhaps a consensus will build. I can always get more ceramics if the mixed-set thing seems weird. And I'm just dipping my toe into the chip world - so perhaps this is some kind of sacrilege?
If you can stick within your price range, good for you. All three China clays from Apache are nice. But if you are like me . . . my mind starts justifying looking into some higher tiers and spending a little more, because, after all - these should last a lifetime.
Gary
And at that price point, around 70 to 80 cents, you open up the whole world of custom ceramics. A little more and you can start getting into custom clays from CPC. While you can spend a couple bucks or more, very simple designs are just over a buck.
I am a few weeks ahead of you in the process, having bought many many samples but still racking my brain, and watching my discipline slip as I set my sights higher Why not Paulsons?).
Today I bought 150 Paulson $25 President Casino New Yorker chips. Got a great deal (less than a buck) from Apache, so felt like I couldn't pass them up.
I don't know whether I will be able to get other denoms to fill out a set. But what if I get other denoms with other labels? Why the heck not?
My current plan is to get 500 custom chips from Lynbark designs. Great quality and easy to work with. By playing the Paulson greens with higher denom ceramics, we get to handle both types of chips and perhaps a consensus will build. I can always get more ceramics if the mixed-set thing seems weird. And I'm just dipping my toe into the chip world - so perhaps this is some kind of sacrilege?
If you can stick within your price range, good for you. All three China clays from Apache are nice. But if you are like me . . . my mind starts justifying looking into some higher tiers and spending a little more, because, after all - these should last a lifetime.
Gary
I just can't justify spending more than 50cents right now for chips considering the people I play with could care less. I just want something better than the NexGens I have. And China clays fit the bill. And Majestics are my favorite so far
But CPC customs are not out of the picture at all. Just out of the picture for now. A few years down the road I'm gonna get a set that's gonna last forever. Once I get a nice table and room set up
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xxmurrxx
Two Pair
Never handled Majestics but I did enjoy the Pharaohs quite a bit when I owned my set.
You could also keep and eye on the classifieds, sometimes nice ceramic sets pop up that would probably be within your budget.
You could also keep and eye on the classifieds, sometimes nice ceramic sets pop up that would probably be within your budget.
CdnBeerLover
Full House
Yup. There were some Royal Yak ceramics there earlier this week that might fit the bill (nice breakdown as well). And there's at least one CPS china clay set available. I've owned both of these styles of chips (still have a set of Yak ceramics), and they are both decent for the price.
ohikthxbye
Pair
i did do this with my current chips. approximately 120 of my 300 I was able to make a smooth rack, but this still seems unacceptable to have to buy additional chips just to solve this problem. In addition, I only had 100 blues, not sure how many more I would have to buy to get smooth racks
churlbut18
Full House
Where did you purchase the PGI samples (Great Pyramid, Great Wall). First I'm hearing of these. Don't see them on palmgaming.us or any other sites I've visited. I'm familiar with all the others.
CdnBeerLover
Full House
I believe Pokerchiplounge.com is a PGI reseller. You can also get samples of PGI compression clays on the Palmgaming.us site at this link.
I'm in exactly the same position as you. Have some cheap chips I don't want to use anymore. Don't want to dive straight into customs so need a middle ground for a year or so before upgrading.
For me it is between Majestics, Pharoahs or Milano. Unless anyone can shoot me a chip in the 40c range that I should be looking at.
The alternative is to build a set from the classifieds and go from there. Just wish the options in the UK were better than they are.
For me it is between Majestics, Pharoahs or Milano. Unless anyone can shoot me a chip in the 40c range that I should be looking at.
The alternative is to build a set from the classifieds and go from there. Just wish the options in the UK were better than they are.
Wils
Flush
I know I've mentioned these already, but the CPS chips are solid. You need a good chipper in the states to sell you some second hand (thanks, @LabMonkey). Shipping from a vendor is just too expensive for us UK'rs.
Venerati ceramics. CPS (Championship Poker Series) china clays. Dunes Commemorative china clays, if you can find a set in the classifieds. All solid choices, and I'd pick any of them before Milano chips (and have).
Majestics vs Pharaoh's Club? Both good, and like most chips, it all pretty much comes down to personal preference. Get samples.
detroitdad
Royal Flush
Yes. Different china clay manufacturers use different materials, including the use of recycled materials. Some only use raw materials, and some use different material formulas depending on who is ordering the chips (and supplying the raw materials, in some cases).
Uh, no. There are definitely differences -- sometimes small, other times huge. The mold design itself can also create differences in sound, feel, and handling characteristics.
I assume you are referring to the greek key/reverse-L, spirit, and stitch molds. Each of those are produced by different companies using different materials.
glworden
Sitting Out
Poker Chip Lounge. Looks like they sell the same molds as Palm. More expensive because they are custom only. Those CPS chips are a cheaper alternative and people seem to like them.
So as it turns out my friend is a huge fan of poker and has a sample of Majestics. I didn't even know he liked poker chips or even poker in general. I played around with them and decided I liked them so I ordered them. I have no patience so I figured I'd just go ahead and jump on it. I don't see any reason why I won't like them years from now. And I can always add on
Poker Chip Lounge is an authorized reseller for Palm Gaming, although they offer other manufacturer's products as well.
glworden
Sitting Out
sicilian_joe
Pair
How do you like your Majestics?
I'm having the same debate right now about Majestics and Pharaohs!
I'm having the same debate right now about Majestics and Pharaohs!
Majestics are still my fav chips. Tough to beat these chips for the price/design/feel. I would change is the default color/denoms: Salmon 25c and brown 5k to light blue and grey.
I have a couple of racks of pharaohs and they just feel cheaper. Design wise they are very nice. Definitely get samples and even a few barrels.
sicilian_joe
Pair
Thanks johnjohn...I've ordered my samples and hopefully will be trying them out soon! (y) :thumbsup:
Don't underestimate this issue... When you manipulate the stacks, shuffle chips, etc... the differences in circumfrance tilted me to no end... In the racks, they looked horrible. I bought a big set of majestics, but sold them off for this reason. I'd go the Pharoahs hands down.
I sold off my CPS chips to fund a majestic order, and I love the majestic colors, but the quality issues ruined them IMHO.
Any china clay chip (that is mass-produced and sells for 10c each from the factory) is going to have quality issues of some kind to some degree -- and every single design and production run of china clay chips manufactured in the last twelve years has borne out this truth. Every. Single. One.
High quality chips cost money to produce, and ultimately, to purchase. Don't go in with unrealistically high expectations regarding inexpensive chips, and you won't be disappointed.
High quality chips cost money to produce, and ultimately, to purchase. Don't go in with unrealistically high expectations regarding inexpensive chips, and you won't be disappointed.
Any china clay chip (that is mass-produced and sells for 10c each from the factory) is going to have quality issues of some kind to some degree -- and every single design and production run of china clay chips manufactured in the last twelve years has borne out this truth. Every. Single. One.
High quality chips cost money to produce, and ultimately, to purchase. Don't go in with unrealistically high expectations regarding inexpensive chips, and you won't be disappointed.
I love my Milanos.
granted, I did initially receive some of the height issue chips, but was made completely whole in that endeavor. All of my Milanos now have zero issues of note.
codeman00
Flush
I've ordered 1200 Majestic chips recently of 11 different colors and none showed diameter inconsistency issues. They feel great, sound great, and look great.
Majestics are awesome value for the price. Sometimes you'll get issues with the labels. No issues with size so far.
HS cincy chips is what i bought next and fairly easy to obtain from feebay and here. Those are my standard cashgame set. Tourney set is still majestics. Only one person at the table could appreciate the difference between the majestics, cincy's and the Paulson WTH&Cs.
These are next:
http://www.homepokerchips.com/atlantich.htm
HS cincy chips is what i bought next and fairly easy to obtain from feebay and here. Those are my standard cashgame set. Tourney set is still majestics. Only one person at the table could appreciate the difference between the majestics, cincy's and the Paulson WTH&Cs.
These are next:
http://www.homepokerchips.com/atlantich.htm
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