Cash Game How many racks of fracs do you prefer? (35 Viewers)

[Baxit]

6-player game, 1 rack is fine.

 

[SaturnineOfSpades]

3 handed.....2 racks. FracCity!

 

[RadicusScout]

We play 25c/25c with a $40 buy in so starting stacks with 1 rack of fracs would look something like this for 6-7 people (the number of people who usually show up for our monthly game).

This breakdown works. But I confess, this breakdown triggers my OCD in a bad way. My crew also likes their fracs so if I were to color them in like this, they'd probably riot.

I'm running 3 racks (DON'T JUDGE ME).



Oh and if anyone has spare Tunica Roadhouse $1 chips, please let me know.

(Photo credit to @greenchip)

 

[chipinla]

View attachment 1681305This many!! Haha

 

[KHarp1]

@ParrotheadMZ would say to only play with fracs so somewhere in the 800-1000 range?

I was looking for the pic of him with about 150 fracs stacked up in one tower of fracs, but, couldn't find it. He's a frac ho fo sho

 

[TonZaga]

I was looking for the pic of him with about 150 fracs stacked up in one tower of fracs, but, couldn't find it. He's a frac ho fo sho

 

[KHarp1]

There's my frac-hor! @ParrotheadMZ

 

[ParrotheadMZ]

More is better!
I still remember shoving 6 barrels and someone said holy shit! How much is that.

 

[ParrotheadMZ]

Nothing less than 10 racks!
Unless of course you have a full table then you should get 15 to 20 rack!

 

[Mojo1312]

What is a frac?

I've changed my stance on this over the years.

200 makes for full racks but 140-160 is about right for .25/.50, but honestly unless you are doing full ring 8+ players (I prefer 6-7 players) you can easily do with a single rack.

 

[Poker Zombie]

I must be the only one that pitched a 75¢/$1.50 limit game over 3 tables. The poll doesn't have a "20 racks" option.

But for .25/.25 I prefer 2 racks for 1 table, though for sheer economics, I have gotten away with 140.

 

[SteveEH]

No fracs, but starting stacks for the $10/$20 NL game. The red 5s must be for tips. What happened to 4x or 5x between denominations???? After seeing this, I want a rack of the smallest denomination for each player!!

For my 6 handed .25/.25 game we use 1 rack of quarters minimum, but I put 2 racks out of I use my other set.

 

[Gavin]

Used to be 2 racks and then 160. But now 120 seems to be the sweet spot with 10 players and quarter fracs...

 

[JustinInMN]

One rack per table is usually good for 25¢-25¢ and 25¢-50¢ blinds.

An average of 10 chips per player is good for chips that really only get used on the first street.

If you are in the "moar chips" crowd, bulk up on singles at these stakes. 3-4 racks per table .

But too many fracs slows down all in counts and cash outs. Keeping it to around 10-12 per player minimizes this effect.

 

[WedgeRock]

I give the option for 2 barrels or 1 and fill the rest with ones and fives.

Interesting. Never thought about it, but the casino lets you buy in for whatever breakdown you want, while at home games, it's almost always dictated by the host.

To answer OP's question, 1 rack is preferred, because it is sufficient, even for an 8 player game, and an even rack appeases to OCD. But 140 is better for a single table.

 

[JustinInMN]

Interesting. Never thought about it, but the casino lets you buy in for whatever breakdown you want, while at home games, it's almost always dictated by the host.

To answer OP's question, 1 rack is preferred, because it is sufficient, even for an 8 player game, and an even rack appeases to OCD. But 140 is better for a single table.

The casino has unlimited supply of chips.

Most home games hosts (though the exceptions to this rule exist on PCF) have some limits on how many chips they have on hand. (Even I have 200 cash chips and 600 tournament chips, still a limit.)

So they do have to put some thought into buy in construction.

That said, casinos definitely have "defaults" for how they want to do buy ins, fives are usually brought for 1-2 and 1-3 games. A mix of fives and tens is becoming common for 2-5 and 5-10 games as @SteveEH noted above. But if a player asks for certain denominations, they will usually do that.

 

[ChaosRock]

Interesting. Never thought about it, but the casino lets you buy in for whatever breakdown you want, while at home games, it's almost always dictated by the host.

That said, casinos definitely have "defaults" for how they want to do buy ins, fives are usually brought for 1-2 and 1-3 games. A mix of fives and tens is becoming common for 2-5 and 5-10 games as @SteveEH noted above. But if a player asks for certain denominations, they will usually do that.

Hard for the casino to control buy-in breakdowns if it's done at the cage.

However, I've played a lot of the $1/$3 game at the Encore room in Vegas a few years back in which they were pushing for $1s, $5s and $100s only. Maybe they were saving the $25s for $2/$5 or $5/$10 but every time someone would bring a green chip and it hit the pot, the dealer would make change and put it in the tray to be swept...

 

[Machine]

It really depends on the game you play and the game you want to host. 'Game' is ambiguous in the previous statement.

The Game you play: PLO is going to play larger than NLH, and it gets there faster.
The Game you want to host: Fast action, high or low stakes, caps on buy-ins.

I also think resale should play into it; you're not going to own the chips forever, even if you clutch them in your dying breath. I wouldn't spread 120 fracs per se, but I will sell 3 barrels to a Frac-hor (and I have, previously ousted player above in the thread), and I respect the next host that may own my chips next.

I bought a set with 60 fracs (CPC, it was my order), and it's always been enough for my game, but not everyone enjoys the action in my game. We've started with .25/.25 and have since moved the game up to .5/.5, but we typically felt 1500-3000 on the table.

Having a few too many fracs on the table isn't a big deal, but I've played in a game where everyone gets a rack of fracs, and it slows the game to crawl; it really isn't any fun to deal with.

If you have a bunch of nits, sure, have a frac-only game, but if you have stacks going in, you don't want 2 racks on the table. If I ask how many racks of fracs you have on the table, it's because I'm baselining your nit-to-player ratio.

 

[bruh]

10-12 fracs per player
Fight me

 

[merkong]

10-12 fracs per player
Fight me

No. Moar.

Who doesn’t like moar?

If they’re too spendy do a GFM

 

[bruh]

Not spendy, cluttery

 

[Ben8257]

I must be the only one that pitched a 75¢/$1.50 limit game over 3 tables. The poll doesn't have a "20 racks" option.

But for .25/.25 I prefer 2 racks for 1 table, though for sheer economics, I have gotten away with 140.

This is exactly what I was building this one for! $.75/$1.50 limit 3/6 chips in f different colors but same value!

For a learning table, the thought was each person buys in for $50 and you get two racks. I wanted design a $5 plaque that said something along the lines of “Washington’s Round Up!”

Also you can have lots of fracs if you start with lower stakes! lol… I know they quit making Pennie’s, but doesn’t mean we can’t pay $1.20 a chip and have them made ourselves

Normally I say a rack of quarters, this set has 3 because of covering 2 tables and if one wants to play micro (like $.05/$.10) then I would rather have an extra rack of quarters for the low stakes table.

This one is different

If low stakes (less than $.25/$.50) then using the hot stamped quarters. If playing $.25/$.50 I am going inlaid quarters with the $1s and $4s.

But in general 100 quarters is plenty! 60/80
Is plenty for $.50/$1

 

[inca911]

This may be blasphemy to the full rack folks, but 150 fracs + 150 ones is how many keeper sets of mine have been set up. Full barrels for 7 player tables means minimal change making.

 

[ChaosRock]

This may be blasphemy to the full rack folks, but 150 fracs + 150 ones is how many keeper sets of mine have been set up. Full barrels for 7 player tables means minimal change making.

Blasphemy!!! Now, not only you have partial racks, but also partial barrels?!?! You trying to trigger me, Forrest?

Just kidding… Although I am one of those ‘full rack only’ guys, I totally get where you’re coming from, man… And it makes sense. No one said my full rack preference was base on any kind of sense though!

 

[WedgeRock]

Although I am one of those ‘full rack only’ guys

Since when?!

 

[ChaosRock]

Since when?!

Ever?

 

[JustinInMN]

Hard for the casino to control buy-in breakdowns if it's done at the cage.

True,

I am used to rooms that do chip runners, so they know what to bring based on the table. (Though, they would probably do whatever a player asks.)

 

[KHarp1]

I seriously use to be in the moar category, but, Machine did help me to realize the issues it causes. I like fracs because they're usually brightly colored chips that I love, but, that doesn't make the game play better. The last couple of sets I've put together I've done without fracs. Most places I'm playing, and sometimes bringing my chips along, aren't using fracs. 1/1 is easier when playing PL. So, when I want to get my brightly colored frac type chips in play, I turn it in to a "Cali" set and use that chip as a 5.