Jambine
Full House
That was my initial impression. Desert Palms or Dunes
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That was my initial impression. Desert Palms or Dunes
Kingfisher
Sitting Out
What a shame, the colour combinations actually look great on these in my opinion. Not sure why they felt the need to reinvent the spot with these, just makes them look tacky.
Wils
Flush
I hate 'em everything about them all. The colour schemes, the spot patterns, the mold, the ugly "pick any colour as long as it doesn't match" labels.
Everything.
Everything.
Wils
Flush
Now THEY are chips.
codeman00
Flush
It's not traditional but that makes them unique. That being said, I really don't like brown chips...especially a 100 chip.
ChipEnvy
Full House
I like them. They really missed an opportunity though with the house mold though. They could have done anything and they went with block letters?
200 Motels
Flush
It's only the inlay that makes these fugly to me. The edge spots are a 4/10. The base colors are fine imo.
Conspiracy theory time: What if the GPI had to flip the bill for the replacement chips knowing that the Star chips they sold "compromised the integrity" of the WSOP chips?
Conspiracy theory time: What if the GPI had to flip the bill for the replacement chips knowing that the Star chips they sold "compromised the integrity" of the WSOP chips?
yeah, don't like it as a $100, but oddly think it would make a cool $10 chip or higher denom like $5k - $25k.. or if they were in a chipper's hands.. a pretty sweet frac
justsomedude
Royal Flush
That's one of the stories/rumors going around right now that Travis (RainmanTrail) has shared. He says he spoke with some one in the gaming industry who knew a GPI rep that claimed they had to replace the WSOP secondary chips for free as a direct result of the Star tributes.
I don't have any reason not to believe him.
I’m willing to put money on the fact that they won’t show up. Anybody wanna lay some odds?
Depends. How many years?
More than one WSOP set currently in use that was pulled at one time, only to be returned to play years later. As far as anybody knows, those were because they had new chips made. When they were replaced, everybody thought it was forever. Turns out not to be the case.
However, those sets may have been pulled due to compromise or counterfeits which WSOP kept private at the time. Incidentally, it occurred about the same time that ceramic clones of their Bud Jones chips started getting popular. Now there's a conspiracy theory for ya.
Oooh, interesting, hadn’t realized sets had ever gotten pulled only to later be put back into play.Depends. How many years?
More than one WSOP set currently in use that was pulled at one time, only to be returned to play years later. As far as anybody knows, those were because they had new chips made. When they were replaced, everybody thought it was forever. Turns out not to be the case.
However, those sets may have been pulled due to compromise or counterfeits which WSOP kept private at the time. Incidentally, it occurred about the same time that ceramic clones of their Bud Jones chips started getting popular. Now there's a conspiracy theory for ya.
I guess I should specify, I’ll lay 5:1 that we don’t see the 818 set put into play THIS year haha.
I'd only take that bet if it included all sets. If more than one set is 'retired' this year, I win. If only the 818 set doesn't show up, you win.
Gonna be hard to monitor, however, given the total number of events (and sets).
Gonna be hard to monitor, however, given the total number of events (and sets).
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SixSpeedFury
Full House
The more I look at the 100 the more it has grown on me. I'm digging the chip and spot colors paint art now.
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davin
4 of a Kind
I've been trying to monitor it my best
I like the colors of the 1k and 5k in stacks. That 25k is godawful though
Looks like there was an uncontrolled confetti party at the Paulson factory.
Normally I like really colorful chips but.... damn!
Normally I like really colorful chips but.... damn!
200 Motels
Flush
Gotcha. GPI flipping the bill is likely why they re-used the inlay from the prev chips, (as a cost cutting measure) Spose now we know that we've likely pissed of GPI more than Caesars. Could they rightfully send some kinda of cease and desist notice to Tommy and F us all or is that just incredibly unlikely?
justsomedude
Royal Flush
Cease and desist... of what? If you have those chips, enjoy them. If not, there are other places on the internet where you can go gripe about them.
Heading into speculation-town... yes, GPI is probably pissed. I'd guess that as a result of this little flap, the odds of them returning to the home market anytime soon are incredibly low. And, to make matters worse, if they've actually been following any of the drama/backstabbing/infighting from this whole hub-bub, they probably think the community as a whole is nothing but a bunch of pissants.
Let's be honest - there is a lot of content out there right now that is embarrassing to us as a community, and it does us absolutely no favors from the "please-do-business-with-us-GPI" perspective. I personally do not think we are a bad group - I love many of the people here and cherish a lot of the relationships I've built - but given recent events the chipping hobby has certainly seen better days from a PR standpoint.
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Poker Zombie
Royal Flush
...or Caesars just didn't spring for a graphic artist to redo the label.
...or Caesars just placed the order and said "use our art on file".
...or Caesars asked for new chips and GPI just made them.
Sure, I'm not ruling out GPI footing the bill, but I think that is still the most unlikely conclusion. We certainly don't "know" that we pissed GPI. They made a sale... in fact they made 6 sales, for profit. They may have footed the bill on the new WSOP chips, but they may have also sold Caesars new chips.
Either way, unless GPI profit margins are razor thin (unlikely, given that they have a monopoly), GPI is probably very happy with us. However, a carry on and continue letter is unlikely (we would call it advertising) because the Star Cruises buisness is now closed.
MacGrad
3 of a Kind
After reading through the Nevada Gaming Commission's regulations regarding chips/tokens and seeing the timeline of the Star chip "drama" and subsequent notification(s) of Caesars/WSOP/media/etc., I think it's more plausible that GPI used the old inlays because they had already been approved for use in previous chip iterations and would (hopefully, from a production side) not require additional revisions.
According to the NGC regulations, GPI would have needed to provide them with a sample of the chips before they could be approved for use... looking logically at this, those chips would have required:
* GPI to design the new chips
* Have the new design approved by Caesars / WSOP
* Submit an application to the NGC to approve the new design
* Manufacture the required die(s) for the WSOP mold (and possibly the edgespots)
* Manufacture samples of each chip
* Submit the sample chips to the NGC for approval
* Manufacture the lot for use during the WSOP
Adding a redesign of the inlay would have just added time to the review processes, and any delay could have resulted in those sets not being available for use in the WSOP.
(And yes, I realize the color matching the inlay doesn't seem like a significant issue; however, I -- and, I assume, others on this board -- have worked in a business where a minor change to an approved document/process triggers a full review, whereas out-of-date stuff gets grandfathered in because we didn't change a word.)
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MacGrad
3 of a Kind
And, in case anyone else wants to read the Nevada Gaming Commission's regulations, here's a link:
Regulation 12: Chips and Tokens http://gaming.nv.gov/modules/showdocument.aspx?documentid=2925
I actually found it quite interesting, and I'll probably go back and read some of the other regulations for the hell of it.
Gaming Statutes & Regulations: http://gaming.nv.gov/index.aspx?page=51
Regulation 12: Chips and Tokens http://gaming.nv.gov/modules/showdocument.aspx?documentid=2925
I actually found it quite interesting, and I'll probably go back and read some of the other regulations for the hell of it.
Gaming Statutes & Regulations: http://gaming.nv.gov/index.aspx?page=51
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Too bad they didn't use one of the non-color matches inlays then, like the main event chips.
Grant
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