Why has no one built a hidden dealers tray? (7 Viewers)

[WedgeRock]

Like this, but instead of the top rack, it has a table/padding/felt?

Seems it's be more secure for a casino and more comfortable for the dealer.

In a home game, it could transform a dealer spot to a player spot for self dealt games.

 

[CraigT78]

Like this, but instead of the top rack, it has a table/padding/felt?

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Seems it's be more secure for a casino and more comfortable for the dealer.

In a home game, it could transform a dealer spot to a player spot for self dealt games.

Probably because hinges are expensive

 

[WedgeRock]

Probably because hinges are expensive

I'm talking for people who have @detroitdad level money to throw around.

 

[iLogik]

I assume weight…. Otherwise it would be dope

 

[CraigT78]

I'm talking for people who have @detroitdad level money to throw around.

Good point. I wouldn't know then. I'm a broke poker player.

 

[WedgeRock]

I assume weight…. Otherwise it would be dope

That pic is from the Angel website, so it can be done, and weight is not an issue.

https://www.angelplayingcards.com/en/products/

But I'm talking about a dropped tray with a playing surface cover on hinges. That can't be that heavy.

@T_Chan could do it.

 

[CraigT78]

That pic is from the Angel website, so it can be done, and weight is not an issue.

https://www.angelplayingcards.com/en/products/

But I'm talking about a dropped tray with a playing surface cover on hinges. That can't be that heavy.

@T_Chan could do it.

A drawer would be the easiest solution, so my guess is that there hasn't been a need, outside of the coolness factor.

 

[WedgeRock]

But a drawer needs room to open, so the dealer needs to roll away from the table (and for casinos, creates hidden spots from the camera where chips can be palmed).

I recall seeing someone do a playing surface cover for the dealers tray... This is the same thing except the cover would be hinged instead of free.

 

[CraigT78]

But a drawer needs room to open, so the dealer needs to roll away from the table (and for casinos, creates hidden spots from the camera where chips can be palmed).

I recall seeing someone to a playing surface cover for the dealers tray... This is the same thing except the cover would be hinged instead of free.

With that said, I wouldn't think a casino would want a hidden chip rack disappearing below the table either

 

[WedgeRock]

With that said, I wouldn't think a casino would want a hidden chip rack disappearing below the table either

Those GPI/Angel double racks have RFID readers, so...

If we can build a chip drawer hidden in a damn wall (@Seeking Alpha Social Club), this can be done.

 

[Colquhoun]

The other issue is that it will take up legroom. There may not be much thigh room available, depending on the person, the table used, and chair seating height.

 

[iLogik]

I support big thighs…

 

[Undream]

I like the idea. I'm handy. Maybe I'll try it if I get time. I think it'd be sweet if it had a press to pop up thing too. I probably have extra ikea hardware laying around from my store displays for the hinges and stuff too..

 

[WedgeRock]

I like the idea. I'm handy. Maybe I'll try it if I get time. I it'd be sweet if it had a press to pop up thing too. probably have extra ikea hardware laying around from my store displays for the hinges and stuff too..

 

[Undream]

It could even be just a simple insert too that's easy to pull off when access to the chips is needed...

The only thing that is stopping me is that my Shuffletech cart basically sits in front of my chip tray in my table; so, nobody's really sitting there anyway.... But it is annoying when chips from someone betting roll around on the table and into the chip tray.

 

[doublebooyah85]

100% Agree. They have one at the blackjack tables at the Encore/Wynn pools. I shared this before with Chan @T_Chan

https://www.pokerchipforum.com/thre...earned-the-hard-way.99382/page-4#post-2285704

 

[rustycheerio]

The other issue is that it will take up legroom. There may not be much thigh room available, depending on the person, the table used, and chair seating height.

this.
if the tray is too deep there is no space for the dealers legs. also in reality dealer trays shouldn't need to be able to hold 2000+ chips.

 

[chippitydoodah]

 

[WedgeRock]

The only thing that is stopping me

 

[doublebooyah85]

this.
if the tray is too deep there is no space for the dealers legs. also in reality dealer trays shouldn't need to be able to hold 2000+ chips.

No but it would be nice if they could hold more. A typical poker rack in front of the dealer is 4 columns/cards/4 columns.

8 columns...each column holds 40 chips comfortably. That's only 320 chips. Second rack below could be another 320.

 

[WedgeRock]

This is a good point. Double decked racks would require a smaller footprint.

 

[Seeking Alpha Social Club]

Those GPI/Angel double racks have RFID readers, so...

If we can build a chip drawer hidden in a damn wall (@Seeking Alpha Social Club), this can be done.

 

[allforcharity]

I'm game. I'll get @T_Chan right on it.

 

[Chanceman]

I bet security doesn't like the dealer having chips that the cameras can't see 24/7.

 

[detroitdad]

I'm talking for people who have @detroitdad level money to throw around.

That's me alright!

 

[T_Chan]

An insert like that should be no problem. Making a double tray that's removable is beyond my scope though.

I do have a removable insert for my 10 player rental tables so that when there's no dedicated dealer, the player stuck at the dealer spot doesn't have to play around the tray. This one acts as a giant business card insert. It would have to be a custom tray underneath it with a very small "lip", but certainly do-able.

 

[GreekRedEye]

The other issue is that it will take up legroom. There may not be much thigh room available, depending on the person, the table used, and chair seating height.

Would a inset tray take up any more legroom than a drawer?

 

[joeyshin]

put it in an apache case

 

[Colquhoun]

Would an inset tray take up any more legroom than a drawer?

It’s twice as deep into the space under the table than a standard tray. I can’t sit at many tables with drawers either.
I guess if you have seating that will adjust down, that may help, but then arm reach may be affected.

 

[wickedwonka121]

An insert like that should be no problem. Making a double tray that's removable is beyond my scope though.

I do have a removable insert for my 10 player rental tables so that when there's no dedicated dealer, the player stuck at the dealer spot doesn't have to play around the tray. This one acts as a giant business card insert. It would have to be a custom tray underneath it with a very small "lip", but certainly do-able.

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