Cash Game What to buy for a 600 pieces cashgame set? (1 Viewer)

[Philia]

I am planning to replace my current NL 1/2 cash set (currently Nexgen Classic 9g). Possible Breakdown for 8 (-10) Players, Buyins mostly 100, some 200B (200-400 euros), regular Rebuys from 2-3 Players:

125 x Ones
300 x Fives
125 x Twenty-fives
50 x Hundreds
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600 total

Breakdown ok?

Two alternatives I am thinking of: Blank 10g Milanos with custom labels or semi-custom Tiki Kings ceramics. Prices should be fairly comparable (around 400+ US-$ without shipping). I have samples of both, only slight preference towards the Tikis.

What would be your choice compared to the nexgen and in terms of durabillity/wear and tear?

Any advice and experiences appreciated! Also open to other offers that suit the circumstances above and that are willing to ship to Germany.

Thanks in advance!
Meik

 

[Old State]

Man this is a hot topic right now.

I’d go with

200 $1
300 $5
80 $25
20 $100

$5700 bank. I would cap the buy in at $220 and give out a barrel of $1s and two barrels of $5 to the first 7 players. Then supplement the $5 with $25 after that. If rebuys get crazy let cash play.

A set of 750 would be even better witch would allow more $5s and $25s plus they make cases for 750. With 750 I would add another 100 $5s, 50 more $25s Keeping the buyins to easy stacks is a very good idea if you are banking and playing...and possibly drinking.

I’ve played with Tikis and Milanos. Tikis are nicer but with the availability of non labeled Milanos allowing for a semi custom set to be made (having custom labels produced) is an attractive option to me. I personally don’t care for fantasy chip designs. Milanos are pretty nice and much cheaper.

 

[DoubleEagle]

I'eve been running a $1/3 cash game for years. Here is what I would suggest.

100 x Ones
300 x Fives
180 x Twenty-fives
20 x Hundreds
----
600 total

IMO, I don't think you need 200 $1's. Yes, you will need to make change occasionally, but your work horse chips will be the $5's and $25's. We very seldom ever get $100's into play so 20 should be enough. Our buy-in is $200-$300.

Good luck!

 

[Old State]

I'eve been running a $1/3 cash game for years. Here is what I would suggest.

100 x Ones
300 x Fives
180 x Twenty-fives
20 x Hundreds
----
600 total

IMO, I don't think you need 200 $1's. Yes, you will need to make change occasionally, but your work horse chips will be the $5's and $25's. We very seldom ever get $100's into play so 20 should be enough. Our buy-in is $200-$300.

Good luck!

I originally was going to recommend only $100 $1s but changed it because people here tend to not like to make change. Also I have become a fan of the $220 buy in.

Most casinos would cash you in with all reds for a $1/2 game and change would be made at the table

 

[Philia]

Old State and DoubleEagle, thanks for your responses.
Our group is used to have only 12 chips of the lowest denomination in the starting stack. So 100 or 125 Ones is totally fine, change is running smoothly between hands here.
What they surely would not accept is the cap of the buyin. Or house rules say (for some years already): 40 BB minimum buyin, 100 BB standard, 200 BB Maximum. Everybody buys in for 100 BB or more, no short stacks at all. I don't know why, but Germans (or Europeans in general) prefer deep stack poker...

 

[Old State]

Old State and DoubleEagle, thanks for your responses.
Our group is used to have only 12 chips of the lowest denomination in the starting stack. So 100 or 125 Ones is totally fine, change is running smoothly between hands here.
What they surely would not accept is the cap of the buyin. Or house rules say (for some years already): 40 BB minimum buyin, 100 BB standard, 200 BB Maximum. Everybody buys in for 100 BB or more, no short stacks at all. I don't know why, but Germans (or Europeans in general) prefer deep stack poker...

My guys have been buying in for $300. I only capped it to make it easier on me as the banker.
Any reason you picked 600?

 

[ChipTalker]

I run the same type of game and usually do:

100 x ones
300 x fives
80 x twenty fives
20 x hundos

These 500 chips always get it done nicely but if going 600 then go with an extra rack of reds or split it maybe reds and greens ... i never have needed more than 100 white for 1 table but if a few more is your thing go for it.

Oh and mine is 100 to 300 buyin, most start with 200.

 

[Philia]

The 600 chips was just my upper limit financially (together with shipping costs to germany an high import taxes).
A 500 breakdown as ChipTalker suggested with 100/300/80/20 would be fine for 8 players with average buyin of 300 euros (150 BB): 2.400 Euros in play, 3.200 Euros left, enough for rebuys in five and twenty-fives...
But sometimes we play a full table of ten, this would be 3.000 Euros in play. With 2.600 left still enough for all rebuys, but from the third rebuy on i have to do it in Hundos. Thought this is inconvinient, so I wanted be on the smoother side with 600 chips.

 

[Old State]

Forgot about shipping and taxes to Europe.

It’s no crime to have a few big bills on the table if the situation ever happens but sounds like you should be good.

 

[Philia]

It’s no crime to have a few big bills on the table ....

I am not quite sure if this 100% correct according to the german laws, lol. A 1/2 home game is a real miracle here, we are all viewed as criminals...

 

[ChipTalker]

The 600 chips was just my upper limit financially (together with shipping costs to germany an high import taxes).
A 500 breakdown as ChipTalker suggested with 100/300/80/20 would be fine for 8 players with average buyin of 300 euros (150 BB): 2.400 Euros in play, 3.200 Euros left, enough for rebuys in five and twenty-fives...
But sometimes we play a full table of ten, this would be 3.000 Euros in play. With 2.600 left still enough for all rebuys, but from the third rebuy on i have to do it in Hundos. Thought this is inconvinient, so I wanted be on the smoother side with 600 chips.

Yeah it is a preference, I don't get there every week but when 100s get broken out it is a crowd pleaser. I do this with a full 10 and even more sometimes i.e. a player busts and someone came late to replace ... note i do have more than 300 reds but I found I liked it better to get greens on the table. What is the sense of having all these great colors without using them IMO.

Fyi i usually take a 100 and give it to big stack and give the rebuy smaller chips.

 

[Old State]

I am not quite sure if this 100% correct according to the german laws, lol. A 1/2 home game is a real miracle here, we are all viewed as criminals...

I didn’t originally mean that literally. That stinks. Even if you house doesn’t take a rake? That’s what usually separates a felony from a good time in the US.

In the US, if you are older than 35 there is a good chance your first poker game used coins and cash ... no chips.

 

[JustinInMN]

I didn’t originally mean that literally. That stinks. Even if you house doesn’t take a rake? That’s what usually separates a felony from a good time in the US.

In the US, if you are older than 35 there is a good change your first poker game used coins and cash ... no chips.

In college we had what was effectively a 0.25 to 15.00 spread game, played with quarter ante and no blinds, with coin and cash. Everyone brought 5-10 in quarters and some bills. Usual buy in was 60-100.

Great game, I miss it. Never happen again.

As for the breakdown, I think @DoubleEagle has given you the best suggestion.

 

[DoubleEagle]

I didn’t originally mean that literally. That stinks. Even if you house doesn’t take a rake? That’s what usually separates a felony from a good time in the US.

In the US, if you are older than 35 there is a good chance your first poker game used coins and cash ... no chips.

Lol. I’m way older than 35 and yes, my first games back in college were all coins!

 

[andy699669]

How to know the powerhouse chips of the game, whether in cash games or tournaments?

 

[Mojo1312]

100 x $1
325 x $5 ($200 per for 8 players)
150 x $25
25 x $100

or 320 x $5 and 30 x $100

 

[JustinInMN]

How to know the powerhouse chips of the game, whether in cash games or tournaments?

It comes from experience but typically it's the one or two denominations above the blind chips that get used on most streets of betting.

For example, a 200 buy in for a casino 1-2 game in a casino they typically bring in fives, not ones. Most bets are made in fives even if the big blind is 2. They just make change as needed.

 

[minglu812]

I think 500 would be enough for a home cash 1/2nl game for 10.
100 $1
200 $5
150 $25
50 $100

 

[Philia]

I think 500 would be enough for a home cash 1/2nl game for 10.
100 $1
200 $5
150 $25
50 $100

Yes, you are right. Your breakdown is exactly what i bought at the end - with an extra rack of fives, just for fun, lol

 

[gopherblue]

You can never have too many $5s.


Says the guy with 1,800 x $5s in one set.

 

[rimmerryan]

PM sent

 

[Thomacetti]

for 1/2 I would prefer:

100 x $1
400 x $5
80 x $25
20 x $100

 

[JustinInMN]

You can never have too many $5s.


Says the guy with 1,800 x $5s in one set.

You need more

 

[gopherblue]

for 1/2 I would prefer:

100 x $1
400 x $5
80 x $25
20 x $100

Most flexible breakdown, and my choice. Or to future-proof the upper end, at the cost of making your workhorse chips work harder:

100 x $1
300 x $5
100 x $25
100 x $100

or

100 x $1
300 x $5
140 x $25
60 x $100

But Tomacetti has it right.

 

[fieldsy]

I think 500 would be enough for a home cash 1/2nl game for 10.
100 $1
200 $5
150 $25
50 $100

Yes, you are right. Your breakdown is exactly what i bought at the end - with an extra rack of fives, just for fun, lol

Good call, I think that extra rack of 5s will be more helpful than you think for playing NL. Like JustinInMN said, if you play in a casino (at least in the US) a 1/2 game is generally played with 5s. It's nice if you have someone buy in for 100 or rebuy/add for 100 to just give them a barrel. And honestly, when you're the guy who busted and are adding on 100, it feels much better to get that fresh stack of 5s rather than four 25s. I don't think you'll tap into those 25s and 100s much unless your game grows to 2/5 or bigger, but admittedly it's nice to have those chips on hand if you need them.

Cash games are funny. There's a certain satisfaction in just having piles of smaller denomination chips on the table, even though it's technically unnecessary and generally inefficient. I feel very differently in tournaments, where I'd rather have fewer small-denomination chips to color up and betting can become inconvenient if the chips in play are too small relative to the blinds. It's more of an administrative hassle there. But in cash I'm all for having stacks and stacks.

 

[gopherblue]

You need more

I think I’m good...for now.

 

[JustinInMN]

I think I’m good...for now.

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