Cash Game What do you think of this chip breakdown for 25c/50c up to deep stacked 1/3? (1 Viewer)

[Mobythewhale]

25c- 200
$1- 200
$5- 400
$25- 160
$100- 40

I want extra fracs because of limpers in the game and so 10 people can get a barrel of fracs each. I know is probably a bit excess but I want to be able to handle game growth/multiple tables. Thoughts?

 

[BEANO52]

Alot of people are going to say less fracs but I think you got a really nice 1000 chip set.

 

[davesilver88]

Probably good, good calculations.

 

[detroitdad]

25c- 200
$1- 200
$5- 400
$25- 160
$100- 40

I want extra fracs because of limpers in the game and so 10 people can get a barrel of fracs each. I know is probably a bit excess but I want to be able to handle game growth/multiple tables. Thoughts?

Replace a rack of fracs for a rack of fives

 

[gopherblue]

25c- 200
$1- 200
$5- 400
$25- 160
$100- 40

I want extra fracs because of limpers in the game and so 10 people can get a barrel of fracs each. I know is probably a bit excess but I want to be able to handle game growth/multiple tables. Thoughts?

Too many fracs, which are a total waste even with limpers. This is my favorite pet horse to flog...

Not to reignite the 100 vs 120 v 200 debate for fracs, but...100 fracs is plenty for a single table. More just get in the way.

No one needs 120 or 160 or any other silliness when it comes to fracs at a single table. More than 100 is wasting chips and making your set inefficient.

I subscribe to the @abby99 school of thought when it comes to fracs, which is the ONLY correct one:

Fracs are only useful for blinds. The first five players get a barrel of quarters as part of their buy-in, and everyone else buys some off those players. There is no need for even starting stacks—the fracs will be unevenly distributed around the table anyway after an orbit or two anyway, so what’s the point?​

You’re going for a 1000 chip set, and you want flexibility to play higher stakes. So future-proof it and use those extra 100 chips at the high end of the denoms, and you’ll have full racks to boot:

100 x 25c
200 x $1
400 x $5
200 x $25 (or $20)
100 x $100

Maximum flexibility and nice rack symmetry. And let’s be honest: in a few years, you’ll likely not be playing 25c/50c (if for no other reason than inflation), and wish you didn’t have so many fracs in your set that just sit idle.

And, as always, get a few extra of each denomination in case of Murphy.

EDIT: I didn’t address your note about wanting to handle multiple tables. TBH, the set breakdown you describe would be hard-pressed to handle multiple tables. The only denom listed that could comfortably work for two tables is the fracs. You’d be short on $1s (and even $5s). Better to get a fully flexible set for one table and add-on at least 100 x $1s and 100-200 x $5s (and that’s the minimum, IMO).

 

[JP1984]

Couldn't agree more with @gopherblue my set is the breakdown suggested, 100,200,400,200,100 and last game 25p/50p 8 handed we only used 100 fracs and 160 singles. I've got plenty of nits in my lineup too...

Bit ridiculous to have a bank of >£17k, but maybe we'll play 2/5 one day... certainly enough for 1/3...also, full racks FTW...

 

[NotRealNameNoSir]

Only reason I got so many fracs was because the chips were incredibly cheap. Do I like having 200 fracs? Absolutely, I can give a barrel out and that's easy, but everyone's right that it's inefficient and even my beginners get sick of all of them at the table.

If the chips are 30cents and you're not capped at 1000, sure, pick up an extra rack, but when you're trying to be efficient there's no place for them.

 

[Beakertwang]

Your bank is just over $10,000, which is cutting it close to cover a deep 1/3 game. I personally don't like a lot of blind chips on the table, so I would just do 100 quarters, and add more $25's and/or $100's. But, your breakdown should work fine as is. You could always add some $500 plaques if you need to expand your bank.

 

[detroitdad]

Not to reignite the 100 vs 120 v 200 debate for fracs, but...100 fracs is plenty for a single table. More just get in the way.

I agree 100%. I wouldn't want that many chips on the table with players that aren't chippers. Managing big stacks can be challenging.

 

[NotRealNameNoSir]

I agree 100%. I wouldn't want that many chips on the table with players that aren't chippers. Managing big stacks can be challenging.

Swear, some of my players are brilliant in many ways... but you ask them to make change, and to give their neighbor some nickels in exchange for dollars, and their jaws drop. Nothing. Brain shuts down and they just squint at me.

 

[Mobythewhale]

Couldn't agree more with @gopherblue my set is the breakdown suggested, 100,200,400,200,100 and last game 25p/50p 8 handed we only used 100 fracs and 160 singles. I've got plenty of nits in my lineup too...

Bit ridiculous to have a bank of >£17k, but maybe we'll play 2/5 one day... certainly enough for 1/3...also, full racks FTW...

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TYSM for the breakdown with a set that used for a real game lol!

Also, it kinda hurts my soul that the $100 chips are not black and yellow, but amazing set never the less!

 

[Timmah]

Making change constantly sucks. Dealers in a casino get tips to manage a game. Home game dealers don’t. I give everyone at my games a stack of fracs. Go with the 200. It’s your set, your money. Do what makes you happy. If I give you $100 in $1 bills, or give you one $100 bill, it all spends the same.

 

[Sparkynutz]

I'm in the other boat.
We play limit so We like more fracs, less making change.

Your set breakdown is perfect!

 

[upNdown]

My thoughts are that your breakdown is fine for a single table, except that you have way too many 25c chips. One rack is enough.
Also you don’t have nearly enough $1s to host multiple tables at any stakes (thought I’m not sure why you’d want to.)

 

[Machine]

Having more than 100 fracs will slow down the game.

You don't need 400 5s, and if you want to play deep stack I would up the 25s and 100s

I wrote a post that explains how to calculate a break down on your, check my signature.

 

[Mobythewhale]

not a huge fan of your breakdown, i'd rather have too many chips rather than too little

 

[Timmah]

not a huge fan of your breakdown, i'd rather have too many chips rather than too little

Like too many fracs?

 

[RadicusScout]

Swear, some of my players are brilliant in many ways... but you ask them to make change, and to give their neighbor some nickels in exchange for dollars, and their jaws drop. Nothing. Brain shuts down and they just squint at me.

The more I read about your game, the more I want to play in it.

 

[RichMahogany]

Three things that make zero sense for single table cash games.

1) more than 10 fracs per player. 10 per is also not even necessary

2) same sized starting stacks. This isn’t a tournament.

3) 600 count chip sets for full ring or even 8 max. More chippes equals more better lol

 

[NotRealNameNoSir]

The more I read about your game, the more I want to play in it.

Bring a bib, its a wonderful ape filled place but its not for the impatient or intolerant. You will have to eventually tell someone their hand beat yours when they accidently make a flush.

 

[RadicusScout]

Bring a bib, its a wonderful ape filled place but its not for the impatient or intolerant. You will have to eventually tell someone their hand beat yours when they accidently make a flush.

So... your game is practically my game. Except you're fancier with the bibs.

 

[upNdown]

2) same sized starting stacks. This isn’t a tournament.

YES!!! Praise Jesus!

 

[quintooo]

you need a barrel of $500s

 

[upNdown]

you need a barrel of $500s

Fair point. If he’s actually going to play ten-handed $1/3, a $10k bank seems low.

 

[Timmah]

Fair point. If he’s actually going to play ten-handed $1/3, a $10k bank seems low.

Everyone plays different stakes. We do a $100 tournament followed by a .25/.50 pl cash game. No one buys in for more than $100. So a $10k bank would not be needed for my games.

I see home game pics with people having $1200-$1500 in $1 chips. And that’s just one player. That seems excessive to me. At that point more $5 and $25 chips should be in play imho.

In the end, do what makes you happy. Like I said, I give everyone a stack of .25 chips when they buy in. No one has complained. Inevitably when someone gets a couple stack, someone buy one off of them.

 

[NotRealNameNoSir]

Everyone plays different stakes. We do a $100 tournament followed by a .25/.50 pl cash game. No one buys in for more than $100. So a $10k bank would not be needed for my games.

I see home game pics with people having $1200-$1500 in $1 chips. And that’s just one player. That seems excessive to me. At that point more $5 and $25 chips should be in play imho.

In the end, do what makes you happy. Like I said, I give everyone a stack of .25 chips when they buy in. No one has complained. Inevitably when someone gets a couple stack, someone buy one off of them.

Yeah, everyone plays different games, but if OP asks for deep stacked 1/3 its going to play bigger than your .25/.50 pot limit game, right? And I assume if its deep stacked they're buying in for the bare minimum of $300.

 

[upNdown]

Yeah, everyone plays different games, but if OP asks for deep stacked 1/3 its going to play bigger than your .25/.50 pot limit game, right? And I assume if its deep stacked they're buying in for the bare minimum of $300.

A $10k bank for a 10-handed $1/3 game is 333 big blinds per player. That’s not a lot. That’s like having a $1600 bank for a .25/.50 game - it will be enough for some nights, but it really isn’t enough.

 

[NotRealNameNoSir]

A $10k bank for a 10-handed $1/3 game is 333 big blinds per player. That’s not a lot. That’s like having a $1600 bank for a .25/.50 game - it will be enough for some nights, but it really isn’t enough.

Just agreeing with you. Its all relative!

 

[Labrat]

If I give you $100 in $1 bills, or give you one $100 bill, it all spends the same.

Unless you're in a strip club.

 

[KHarp1]

As others have stated, it's your bank and you can build it however you like. I use to be in the "more fracs" club because usually they're brightly colored, beautiful chips, but, definitely see the benefit of minimal fracage. There really isn't a true need for them, and, as the night goes on they really are just clutter. How many .25/.50 games do you see that the. 50 big doesn't get bumped to at least a few bucks? If chip funds are limited, then go with 100 fracs and put the extra money on 5's. You can add more fracs later as funds become available, and, if you find you need them.