boltonguy
Flush
0.25/0.50 NLHE, with most people buying in for $40 and $40 rebuys
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Cash Game What are the stakes at your home game? (1 Viewer)
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jcooper911
Two Pair
$40 seems shallow - what are the usual raises to? We play 50/50c and our usual raises are 3-4 bucks... buy ins at 100
Stakes? Life and death 
$40 is on the shallow side, but 80 bb's isn't crazy. If you're saying that you guys typically open 6x-8x, that doesn't seem normal.
Poker Zombie
Royal Flush
In cash games (NLHE), raises of 6x to 8x is pretty much standard. Stack protection is not paramount, so a bigger pre-flop raise blocks out the drawing crowd.
If you group is typical tournament players, they may be in playing 2x-3x raises. In a tournament, that is enough to push off marginal hands. If your whole group plays that way, no problem.
Note: My players are also primarily tournament players. 80bb is fine for our games as well. I know the difference, and when playing elsewhere, adjust my play accordingly.
I'll take your word for it, because I''m a tournament player. But in my limited $1/2 casino experience, I have not seen people opening for $12 to $16 very often.
jcooper911
Two Pair
$12 is a pretty standard raise in $1/2... $3 at a 50/50 game will still get 3 callers lots of the time... live people like to play pots, online not so much as you play 100 hands an hour not 25...
Really depends on the table but 6x-8x is pretty standard around here too. If you raise to 6, most people are going to call. Even at 10 you'll get a lot of callers. 15 is when they start to think about it.
At our 0.25/0.50 game, a raise to $3 - $5 is standard. At $2 the whole table will sometimes call. Late in the night the raises will get bigger.
jcooper911
Two Pair
100% this.
Poker Zombie
Royal Flush
I've seen $7 raises in 1-2 on old man coffee tables, but as soon as the young bucks show up $12 becomes the norm. Before sitting at any table, I like to get a read on the table's dynamics. I prefer tournaments and stack preservation, because I work about 15 hours to get 2 buy-ins (for a $1-2 casino game), so money matters to me.
That said, I like to play. Work hard, play hard. If the best play is 7x raises, then bring it on!
That said, I like to play. Work hard, play hard. If the best play is 7x raises, then bring it on!
boltonguy
Flush
Haha! Lots of limps because almost everyone is a rec. When someone opens it is usually to $1 or $2. You should see the reaction when I 3 bet to $6 or more over limpers! That usually ends the hand right then unless someone has AA, KK or QQ. Not too hard to exploit - we have our stations and our maniac and passive recs that want to limp and see every pot. Any time the $5 red chips go into the pot everyone is excited. We are playing next week and are trying to raise the buy in by "capping it at $100" as right now noone buys in for anything other than $40 so we'll see. Maybe one other guy and me will buy in for $60 or $80 to start and set a trend.
It's funny how different 25¢/50¢ home games can play! I really appreciate all the comments on this topic, as we ran into this last weekend. Our group typically plays tourneys, but I've gotten a lot of requests for a cash night, so we did a 25¢/50¢ NLHE cash night this month. $100 max buy-in, most bought in for $60-$80 and had a full table, so we had about $700 on the table to start. Most pre-flop raises were in the $3 range, and there were several comments towards the end of the night about how big the game had played (several rebuys/add-ons, finished with about $1100 on the table). I'm more of a tourney player and don't have a lot of experience with cash games, but this seemed pretty standard to me, I was really surprised by that reaction.
Low blinds and deep stacks is the future of poker
RichMahogany
Straight Flush
For sure I’d much rather play lower stakes with deep stacks than higher stakes with a 100BB buy in cap
jcooper911
Two Pair
I guess my game plays a little bigger, we usually have 2200-2700 on the table by the end, but these guys are by no means great players, just people who will see every single flop if the raise was $2 at 50c/50c blinds every time! most pots are still only $30-60, but it is a big pot if the green chips (only used for rebuys) get in the middle...
I had a regular home game a couple of years ago and the stakes were .25/.50. People would buy in for $40 - $80 and typical opening bets were between $1 and $2.
This game was a spinnoff of a .25/.50 game where people typically bought in for $20, so a lot of the guys were used to playing small, I guess.
This game was a spinnoff of a .25/.50 game where people typically bought in for $20, so a lot of the guys were used to playing small, I guess.
jcooper911
Two Pair
My game if it was like that: EP raises to $1, 6 calls, BB raises to $14... lol
boltonguy
Flush
Many of our players have learned to play poker as we have played this game monthly over the last two years. So I think its a function of never having played before and not being used to gambling and higher stakes. People usually buy in a second time if they get wiped out - which they do - so most end up being in for $80 over the course of the evening.
jcooper911
Two Pair
i will say, since i kicked off the game in November 2018, playing every 2 weeks with a pool of 20 odd and getting 11-13 each week... the standard of play has improved a lot...
Took my group about a year to learn to reraise
A dynamic that I’ve noticed in my .25/.50 game ($60 buy in + rebuys up to half big stack) is that the game plays slow for an hour or so until someone gets stacked and the big stack is at $200. At that rebuy the person usually buys in for $100 and almost everyone else tops off. From then on the game plays looser and a lot more action. Most rebuys after that are at $100 and stacks can grow decently big.
jcooper911
Two Pair
i am so tempted to live stream my game. i couldnt show the cards, but it would show the action and i think some people would find it fun/informative for a short time anyway lol
I agree with many of the sentiments above. I thought about one day working to bigger blinds (0.5/1) but from what I've seen having bigger stacks actually encourages more loose play. Bigger stacks allows to play more loose and make those bluffs.
Poker Zombie
Royal Flush
Not just big stacks in terms of big blinds, but lots of physical chips. The more a player has to ask for change, the more they think they are getting felted.
If I had $1 for every player that had to make change and complained how bad they were doing (or how bad their luck was), even though they had a greater valued chip-stack than the player they were griping to, I would never have to work again.
I tried that too, but it didn't work for my group. I generally have 100 quarters and 220 ones, 3 or so racks of 5s and some 25s. If I get too many ones in play they ask to color up and the person who rebuys sometimes doesn't even want change for the 5s. When it gets to them it's either fold or a bet that's a multiple of 5.
jcooper911
Two Pair
definitely - we don't need 50c/$1 blinds to play a big game where average stacks are $300...
jcooper911
Two Pair
I have basically the same - people always love to keep their greens and punt off their whites!
DeeVee8
Flush
The stakes? Life and Death, my friends. Life. And. Death.
It took us a long time to get the game more enjoyable. Some people may start to feel out of their element but overall everyone says it's a much more fun game now.
It used to be every one bought in for 40 and we might have a few rebuys that night. What changed was many got better at poker and started to understand it more so learned that they needed a better sized stack to play. We also introduced a couple new players who encourage more action with the way they play. Some players now will start with a $100 buy in. 40 is still standard, but not the only amount anymore.
Last game we ran out of 5s and dipped into the 25s, but most people said it was a really fun game.
It used to be every one bought in for 40 and we might have a few rebuys that night. What changed was many got better at poker and started to understand it more so learned that they needed a better sized stack to play. We also introduced a couple new players who encourage more action with the way they play. Some players now will start with a $100 buy in. 40 is still standard, but not the only amount anymore.
Last game we ran out of 5s and dipped into the 25s, but most people said it was a really fun game.
I 've spread, according to number and type of crew:
-Single blind .50, srandard buy-in 40E, if 5-handed or less (still better than not playing at all)
-2/5 dimes, buy-in 30 to 50E (or half the big stack)
-.50/.50, buy-in standard 50E or 40 to 60E (or half the big stack)
I' ve also played in another game, using my own chips and contrbuting some of "my" players (I 'm not a slave owner though
), having .50/1E blinds, buy-in 50 to 100E.
The goddamn corona virus has postponed my plans of further recruitment (it's unthinkable now for people to gather in any place for entertainment purposes).
Come summer, God willing, with promises of some new players joining (coming from a crappy and shallow 1/2E game), I might be able to spread an 1/1E game. Thinking about a 60/120E buy-in (or half the big stack).
-Single blind .50, srandard buy-in 40E, if 5-handed or less (still better than not playing at all)
-2/5 dimes, buy-in 30 to 50E (or half the big stack)
-.50/.50, buy-in standard 50E or 40 to 60E (or half the big stack)
I' ve also played in another game, using my own chips and contrbuting some of "my" players (I 'm not a slave owner though
), having .50/1E blinds, buy-in 50 to 100E.The goddamn corona virus has postponed my plans of further recruitment (it's unthinkable now for people to gather in any place for entertainment purposes).
Come summer, God willing, with promises of some new players joining (coming from a crappy and shallow 1/2E game), I might be able to spread an 1/1E game. Thinking about a 60/120E buy-in (or half the big stack).
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