Thinnest quality print at home labels (1 Viewer)

[JeepologyOffroad]

Title says it all. Looking to create a cash and a tourney set out of 2k+ faux clays. I hear Gear is the best, but with something cheap like faux clays I’d prefer to keep it budget and print at home. Any help is appreciated.

 

[SeanGecko]

@zo121179

 

[zo121179]

I assume you're not planning on milling due to the title "thinnest"?

 

[zo121179]

@zo121179

You're up early? I at least have an excuse.

 

[SeanGecko]

Up late. Watching Japanese Wrestling.

 

[Beakertwang]

Up late. Watching Japanese Wrestling.

Is this a euphemism?

 

[SeanGecko]

Nope. Got to watch the matches live I have to be up late!

 

[JustinInMN]

I did use stock onlinelabels.com for the print at home, they have all kinds of materials and sizes. However, here is my cautionary tale about home printing.

https://www.pokerchipforum.com/thre...d-perils-of-cheap-chipping.29479/#post-546125

Basically home printers, no matter how well you calibrate are subject to at least 1/8" of possible shifts. Fine for most home printing applications, but troublesome for this purpose. A 12% shift in a 1" inlay is a big deal unless you have a very tolerant design. (As in plenty of whitespace on the outside.)

My design couldn't tolerate that, so I ended up doing full sheet labels and hand punching which was a ton of handwork.

I am happy with the final product for ABS, but it was way more work than I bargained for.

 

[zo121179]

There's a lot of truth to that. I know I threw a lot of labels away because they were way off. To fix this I printed all of my labels on PDF and utilized my work hours to sit there and punch them all out with a fiskars 1" punch. Then I needed smaller sizes and upgraded to my wife's cricut for the smaller and larger cuts. I'm shopping for commercial sized cutters/printers now I'm so into it.

 

[JeepologyOffroad]

I assume you're not planning on milling due to the title "thinnest"?

Just thinking through a backup plan. My buddy has a small cnc router so hopefully that makes it easier.

I did use stock onlinelabels.com for the print at home, they have all kinds of materials and sizes. However, here is my cautionary tale about home printing.

https://www.pokerchipforum.com/thre...d-perils-of-cheap-chipping.29479/#post-546125

Basically home printers, no matter how well you calibrate are subject to at least 1/8" of possible shifts. Fine for most home printing applications, but troublesome for this purpose. A 12% shift in a 1" inlay is a big deal unless you have a very tolerant design. (As in plenty of whitespace on the outside.)

My design couldn't tolerate that, so I ended up doing full sheet labels and hand punching which was a ton of handwork.

I am happy with the final product for ABS, but it was way more work than I bargained for.

Noted. Punch it is. Appreciate the heads up.

 

[zo121179]

Just thinking through a backup plan. My buddy has a small cnc router so hopefully that makes it easier

Those computerized routers are the shit! If I had this option I’d do it.

 

[JeepologyOffroad]

So now that punching 2k+ of these is on my plate - is there a go to for entire blank sheets?

 

[zo121179]

I would recommend this over any other punch. Much easier to line up and on your hands. Hobby Lobby has these for $7 after a coupon. Buy a few of them because they do go full after a while and there’s really no good way to sharpen them. Plus you want a sharp cut or the label will look like crap.

 

[JustinInMN]

So now that punching 2k+ of these is on my plate - is there a go to for entire blank sheets?

So you are probably looking at .80/sheet for your quantity at onlinelabels.com. You probably should get something waterproof just to avoid print transfer to oily hands.

However, I know those materialis aren't the thinnest.

 

[zo121179]

So now that punching 2k+ of these is on my plate - is there a go to for entire blank sheets?

Also Avery 6450

 

[allforcharity]

Buy a few of them because they do go full after a while and there’s really no good way to sharpen them. Plus you want a sharp cut or the label will look like crap.

I have heard that you can keep these punches sharp by using repeatedly punching out using sheets of aluminum foil.

 

[Lemonzest]

Your best bet is talking to Gear. His cheapest labels are thin and about 20 bucks per rack. Way better than embarking on an R&D project and potentially having issues with adhesion or color fading/transfer.

 

[JeepologyOffroad]

Your best bet is talking to Gear. His cheapest labels are thin and about 20 bucks per rack. Way better than embarking on an R&D project and potentially having issues with adhesion or color fading/transfer.

Yeah you’re probably right. Maybe I can convince myself to spend the coin despite these being faux clays.

 

[Lemonzest]

Yeah you’re probably right. Maybe I can convince myself to spend the coin despite these being faux clays.

Its a good deal and a quality product IMO. To me it seems like something easy to mess up.

 

[JeepologyOffroad]

I’ve never actually handled faux clay chips myself, but if I like em as much as it sounds like I will when they arrive then it’s a strong possibility I’ll keep it simple and go with Gear.

 

[zo121179]

I think the Gear labels are great. I have some samples and I think if I ever relabel a quality chip I’ll put him to work. For now on .04 chips paper will do.

 

[Richard Cranium]

Have gear send you sample labels of whatever his thinnest are so you can put a few on and see if you need to mill a recess or they will work without.

I know @Captn_All_In labeled without milling and said they worked without spinners but your mileage may vary.

Milling can be done, and if you can do a cnc jig and batch them out quickly that’s a really good bet.

If you want, I’ll send you some of my reds to play with before you decide what to do.

Are white and red still available here?
http://www.ultimatepokersupplies.co...ker-Chips-10g-Sold-in-packs-of-25-p-1556.html

 

[JustinInMN]

I have these chips for my tourney set I never use .

Mine are 21/rack thin, so I see why you hesitate about milling.

 

[Meddler2]

I had no issues using / printing Avery round labels to over-label mint Detroit Jack $1s chips. Whenever the print job got off alignment, I just reprinted another full sheet. 700 labels for something like $12. And if you want/need a gloss finish w added protection, you can use a spray can of Rust-Oleum clear-coat for $4. Spray after ink dries then wait for labels to fully dry before applying to chips...less than hour.
https://www.pokerchipforum.com/threads/label-over-jack-1s.41154/

 

[JeepologyOffroad]

Well I bought the lot. So it's happening one way or another. Should be fun.

 

[SeanGecko]

We will be needing pics.

 

[JeepologyOffroad]

100%. I'm in the "all threads without pics are worthless" camp

 

[SeanGecko]

I am in that camp and I am the leader of the "Black Dollar Forever Club."

 

[JeepologyOffroad]

That's funny. I was actually going to post a thread for opinions on denominations on a split of these between a cash and tourney set. Was leaning towards a black dollar. Need to find some more whites to dye

 

[Richard Cranium]

I posted a link to more whites a bit higher in the thread. But I’ve never ordered from that site before so no idea if a good place or not.