The $25s never seem to be the workhorse - learned something new! (2 Viewers)

[doublebooyah85]

Pretty simple take. The $25 chip is never the workhorse chip in any NL or PLO game…

$1-$2 and $2-$5 NL or PLO (it’s the $5)

$5-$10, $10-$20, $20-$40 NL (it’s the $10 chip but really the $100)

MAYBE $5-$10 PLO?
Or $5-10-$25 PLO?

I feel like PLO games really never have a workhorse and it’s more chip/table/efficiency mgmt with ur chips…get as many high denoms in play you can…

I would still say the $100 is the workhorse in $5-$10 plo and up.

Reason for this discussion I recently built out a few cash game sets and after I went Booyah on $5s, two particular sets I went Booyah on $25s (25 x 400 100 x 200). Should have flipped that or at minimal 300 of the 25/100 each…

 

[davislane]

I too have noticed this phenomena, yet I always want 2 racks in all the sets I build because more chips is better and OCDs and all.

 

[LeLe]

U will never need more than 2 rack of $25 for stake lower than 5/5

Even when I am playing 5/5 or 5/5/10 when straddle is on, I used & preferred 3 rack of $25 & $100 instead too

P.S. $25 are workhorse chip for 5/5, but then I also don't ever see the need for excess rack of workhorse chips. 4 rack is my limit and even thou 3 rack is still my preferred number for workhorse chip for a full ring table

 

[louBdub]

My $25 chips are just bank spread chips. They get used for betting here and there, but they definitely are used for value storing in stacks more so.

I buy them mainly for beauty and joy hahaha

 

[wickedwonka121]

I wonder how this holds true. Maybe moar is better? We had $25 bets, $40 bets, and all using the $5. I guess the single chip doesn't seem to hit the felt the same way as a half barrel of $5s.

 

[allforcharity]

It's what happens when you use racks and racks of $5 at the expense of your $25s. They will get used if you give them a chance. Even in $2/$5 there should be plenty of $25 on the table once you've used up your 3rd or 4th rack of $5.

 

[bergs]

5/10 NL has a $25 workhorse anywhere but casinos that spread $10 chips like Bellagio.

 

[doublebooyah85]

Even at casinos my perception ($25 isn’t a workhorse) @allforcharity and maybe I’m being blind

 

[doublebooyah85]

5/10 NL has a $25 workhorse anywhere but casinos that spread $10 chips like Bellagio.

or Wynn / Aria. And that’s 90% of my experience at these stakes when I play or can easily see the game.

 

[bergs]

It was the workhorse when I used to play 5/10 NL at Foxwoods. It and the $5 were workhorse chips at the larger 2/5 at Mohegan as well.

 

[bergs]

There is a 10/25 PLO that goes at Talking Stick here that features racks of green on the table usually too.

 

[Machine]

Underground PLO game here where its a spread limit button straddle $5-25 no blinds w/ a $25 anytime bring in, and I said PLO but you can over bet and it’s on the callers to call it back to the pot size.

The $25 is the workhorse in this game.

 

[allforcharity]

Even at casinos my perception ($25 isn’t a workhorse) @allforcharity and maybe I’m being blind

Probably even worse at casinos, because they have effectively unlimited $5s. They just colour you up when you leave the table.

 

[springbox]

Agree that this is mostly a symptom of using racks and racks of $5s. If you're making a $200 bet all in $5s when would you use the $25? I've never seen someone slide 40 $1s forward for a bet at 1/1 or 1/2 haha.

 

[Eriks]

No more than 200 of any denom is needed for a single table. One may think it looks cool, but playing with multiple racks of a work horse denom is unnecessary and inefficient.

 

[Goldfish]

I play a lot of 5/5/10-25. All my set ups have the same break down. Although I don’t use the $1s. Never had a problem.

 

[davislane]

500s get used less than $25s IMO. Straight to the 1ks.

 

[ArielVer18]

Booyah on $25s (25 x 400…

You need more. 700+ $25s is booyah imo

 

[springbox]

No more than 200 of any denom is needed for a single table. One may think it looks cool, but playing with multiple racks of a work horse denom is unnecessary and inefficient.

Agree with this. I don't think you ever need more than a barrel of any denomination per player, and you can easily get away with less than that. That's no disrespect to the people with 10 racks of $5s in their set, I love an enormous chip stack, I just think for efficiency and budget minded players it's excessive.

I made my limit set to get 100+ chips per player onto the table, so I don't have to spread $25 buy ins in all quarters to get the chip count up haha

 

[Santa123]

Imagine a 5c/5c game. And the host gave out 3 or more racks of 5 cent chips

 

[Santa123]

No more than 200 of any denom is needed for a single table. One may think it looks cool, but playing with multiple racks of a work horse denom is unnecessary and inefficient.

You are right for a short handed table ;-)

 

[Eriks]

You are right for a short handed table ;-)

Actually, I think it holds true for a full table as well, but I do think a table should be 8 max

 

[Mojo1312]

In the $1/$2 NLHE game I play, the $25 chip is used to manage stack sizes. Hundreds are used in place of $25's later in the evening and once in a while $500 chips find there way onto the felt.

For me, I dislike having huge amount of chips in front of me. I would rather have a barrel of $25's than five extra barrels of $5's. As a poker player, I think leaning towards efficiency is a natural part of the evolutionary process. It is fun to have piles of chips in front of you when the game is new whereas a seasoned player prefers having the extra space to peek at his cards and is not impressed by the number of chips on the table as much as he is the dollars.

I only have experience in playing in two $2/$5 PLO games. In the larger of the two, the $5's and $25's were used as the workhorse chips.

I have built my sets to spread $1/$1 to $2/$5 NLHE/PLO across nine players (PLO) to ten players (NLHE). The breakdown I went with for my sets is 100/$1's, 400/$5's, 200/$25's, 100/$100's. I have yet to host a $2/$5 game. If I should at some point, and it becomes a regular event, I will hunt down/add a barrel of $500's if needed.

 

[Rakrul]

For my NL 5/10 game I usually go for:
5 x 200
25 x 400
100 x 2-300

So the 25 is absolutely my workhorse but I'm guessing casinos have a lot of volume of 25s on table games (?) so they don't want to dump 15-20 racks on the poker room and risk going empty on the table games section (?). (Just making up my own narrative here to fit the story.)

 

[Santa123]

In the $1/$2 NLHE game I play, the $25 chip is used to manage stack sizes. Hundreds are used in place of $25's later in the evening and once in a while $500 chips find there way onto the felt.

For me, I dislike having huge amount of chips in front of me. I would rather have a barrel of $25's than five extra barrels of $5's. As a poker player, I think leaning towards efficiency is a natural part of the evolutionary process. It is fun to have piles of chips in front of you when the game is new whereas a seasoned player prefers having the extra space to peek at his cards and is not impressed by the number of chips on the table as much as he is the dollars.

I only have experience in playing in two $2/$5 PLO games. In the larger of the two, the $5's and $25's were used as the workhorse chips.

I have built my sets to spread $1/$1 to $2/$5 NLHE/PLO across nine players (PLO) to ten players (NLHE). The breakdown I went with for my sets is 100/$1's, 400/$5's, 200/$25's, 100/$100's. I have yet to host a $2/$5 game. If I should at some point, and it becomes a regular event, I will hunt down/add a barrel of $500's if needed.

If I have at least ~3 barrels it helps me to stay calm when I loose a couple of hands in a row.

 

[bergs]

Agree that this is mostly a symptom of using racks and racks of $5s. If you're making a $200 bet all in $5s when would you use the $25? I've never seen someone slide 40 $1s forward for a bet at 1/1 or 1/2 haha.

Play in CA at the Bike or Commerce and you’ll see people slide in full racks of $1s. It’s bizarre.

 

[twocannons]

I use alot of 5’s in my 1/2 game. When the 25’s come out the game tends to turn into a 5/10 game. I usually wait till late in the night to chip up players that have 3+ barrels of 5’s in front of them.
My single table bank
1x140
5x700
25x140
100x20

 

[doublebooyah85]

I play a lot of 5/5/10-25. All my set ups have the same break down. Although I don’t use the $1s. Never had a problem.
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Perfection for PLO

 

[rustycheerio]

your not playing big enough stakes, then they become the workhorse

 

[Goldfish]

Perfection for PLO

Each of the players (9 for plo or 8 for big o/plo) get 1 barrel of 5s, 1 barrel of 25s and 19 100s. These are the only 5s, 25s, and 100s on the table. That is plenty. Never had a problem. Any rebuys get hi denomination chips.