Cash Game $5/ $10 Chip Breakdown with $10 workhorse (1 Viewer)

[m700ltr]

Hi All

Looking to build a $5/$10 set with $10 instead of $25 as workhorse chips. My main reason for using $10 is a) table standard open is $40 b) frequent straddle which makes $25 chip awkward to straddle, double straddle standard open is $60 - $80. In each case, $10 are easier to bet than $25.

No rake 9-ring NLHE home game, 150bb buy-ins, unlimited rebuys. We have reached $45k - $50k bank a couple of times, (I have extra bank of $1000s needn't worry).

$5 x 180
$10 x 300
$100 x 200
$500 x 70

Starting stack would be 20 | 30 | 11. I wouldn't mind halving the number of $5 as they probably won't be used except for SB.

I realize there have been several $5/ $10 breakdowns, but most have opted for $25 as workhorse chips. Would appreciate everyone's input -- TIA!

Also, if I were to run two tables, do I more or less double the chipset?

 

[Highli99]

I love the look of stacks of $10 chips at a 5/10 game. I think elimating 25s entirely is sweet for both playability and chip stacks.

 

[Santa123]

Hi All

Looking to build a $5/$10 set with $10 instead of $25 as workhorse chips. My main reason for using $10 is a) table standard open is $40 b) frequent straddle which makes $25 chip awkward to straddle, double straddle standard open is $60 - $80. In each case, $10 are easier to bet than $25.

No rake 9-ring NLHE home game, 150bb buy-ins, unlimited rebuys. We have reached $45k - $50k bank a couple of times, (I have extra bank of $1000s needn't worry).

$5 x 180
$10 x 300
$100 x 200
$500 x 70

Starting stack would be 20 | 30 | 11. I wouldn't mind halving the number of $5 as they probably won't be used except for SB.

I realize there have been several $5/ $10 breakdowns, but most have opted for $25 as workhorse chips. Would appreciate everyone's input -- TIA!

Also, if I were to run two tables, do I more or less double the chipset?

If you consider to buy am american clay chip like paulson you could consider to play Blinds of $1/$1. Ratio between U.S. and hong kong dollar is ~ 1:10.

Just an idea I wanted to mention.

 

[Eriks]

How about a $20-chip?

 

[Easylife]

How about a $20-chip?

Exactly what I was going to say

 

[LeLe]

I will suggest sticking with $10, $100, $1k chip progression for $5/10 game that often have a straddle of $20/$40

Using $20 or $25 in a 5/10, 5/10/20 game with the above chip progression is like having a $2 or $2.50 in a $1/$1 game (which is unnecessary)

$5 are going to be use minimum only as Small Blind chip and as dealer tips if you have a deliciated dealer.

$5 x 40-100 (U need a rack if tipping is involved)
$10 x 200-300
$100 x 300+
$1k x 100

 

[m700ltr]

In our current game, we have $10, $20 chips but not enough of each (100 chips or less per). We have around $25 x 125 as well, but the dealer keeps "coloring down" to $20.

Using $20 does work, but only because we have $10 in play.

I imagine the more $10 the better if we were constantly straddling. For example, in double straddle, in one orbit there is already $75 in the "blinds".

 

[Machine]

I would go with 5s and 20s and skip the 10s, your burning 1/2 a rack in chips with 4 way action preflop with 10s and I get wanting to be different, but 40 bring is standard with sets that are out there, 25, 5,5,5 works for the rest of the world. And 60 is just 25,25,5,5 still less chips which will let you afford better quality

 

[davislane]

eliminate $5s, $20s & $25s and just run a $10/$10 game using, $10s, $100s and $1ks.

 

[allforcharity]

Use $20 instead of $25 (or $10). Problem solved.

 

[doublebooyah85]

Most casinos will play with minimal $5s and the workhorse is the $10 and plenty of $100s.

 

[Ainton]

Make it a 10/10 set, get rid of the fives

400x$10
200x$100
100x$500

Total bank: $74K

In case you need chips for another table I would say that this breakdown is good to double!

 

[davislane]

eliminate $5s, $20s & $25s and just run a $10/$10 game using, $10s, $100s and $1ks.

Also for those that havent noticed OP is playing in HKD which converts based on current exchange rates of $10HKD = $1.28 USD.

 

[m700ltr]

Thanks everyone, lots of people suggesting we move to $10/ $10. We do host a $10/ $10 game, but realistically only every month or two. We primarily stick to $5 / $10 because we have new ppl joining every so often.

 

[davislane]

Thanks everyone, lots of people suggesting we move to $10/ $10. We do host a $10/ $10 game, but realistically only every month or two. We primarily stick to $5 / $10 because we have new ppl joining every so often.

do the $5 chips get used for bets outside of the blinds? based on the stradle sizes and opening raise sizes I suspect they dont. If they dont get used except for the blinds then I suspect your $5/$10 game and $10/10 will play exactly the same.

 

[m700ltr]

do the $5 chips get used for bets outside of the blinds? based on the stradle sizes and opening raise sizes I suspect they dont. If they dont get used except for the blinds then I suspect your $5/$10 game and $10/10 will play exactly the same.

I would say I'm the only consistent person using the $5, for example, a) I will open to $30 ($5 + $25) vs most will open to $40 b) I do bet in $5 increments such as $115 or $215. However, I suspect the bet size for others is somewhat correlated to the chips we have in play. The dealer we hire uses our $20 instead of $25, so naturally, opening to $40 is easier.

Also, any bet size involving $5 is difficult because we only have 50~ $5 chips, so 6 x 5$ each. As play begins, some players will have accumulated the $5, while others need change for SB.

Our $5/$10 will on average end up between 450bb - 750bb, while the $10/$10 did go up to 1500bb (I was not in this particular game).

I think keeping a rack of $5 is acceptable - just a matter of using $10, $20, or $25 as workhorses. Still deciding as I consider everyone's thoughtful responses.

 

[davislane]

I would say I'm the only consistent person using the $5, for example, a) I will open to $30 vs most will open to $40 b) I do bet in $5 increments such as $115 or $215. However, I suspect the bet size for others is somewhat correlated to the chips we have in play. The dealer we hire uses our $20 instead of $25, so naturally, opening to $40 is easier.

Also, any bet size involving $5 is difficult because we only have 50~ $5 chips, so 6 x 5$ each. As play begins, some players will have accumulated the $5, while others need change for SB.

Our $5/$10 will on average end up between 450bb - 750bb, while the $10/$10 did go up to 1500bb (I was not in this particular game).

I think keeping a rack of $5 is acceptable - just a matter of using $10, $20, or $25 as workhorses. Still deciding as I consider everyone's thoughtful responses.

an alternative is to load up on $5 chips and scrap $10, $20 & $25 entirely. Its very common in Australian casinos and private games playing similar stakes to ignore those chips and go straight to $100 & $1k. Allow 60 - 100 $5s per player. The 5/5/10 game I play at gives at least 3 barrels of $5s and the balance in $100s. The game flows well as there is always plenty of change on the table. I personally like it that way as it encourage players to splash around more as $25s tend to get "locked" up so to speak. More chips in front of players tends to encourage play compared to when players have less chips in front of them.

 

[LeLe]

I can give an real life example how the breakdown of a local private 5/5, 5/5/10 game look like for a single table

$5 x 300
$25 x 300
$100 x 300
$1k x 100

There’s way more $5 needed as private game usually like rake or dealer tips and need more $5 plus more chips drive more actions too

 

[davislane]

There’s way more $5 needed as private game usually like rake or dealer tips and need more $5 plus more chips drive more actions too

The game I play in has 16 racks of $5s for this very reason

 

[doublebooyah85]

The game I play in has 16 racks of $5s for this very reason

Double Booyah!!!

 

[grandmeme]

I must admit that I'm a growing fan of having a rack of 5s to myself. Makes me feel like a baller lol.

But I reckon having a rack of 10s would look even better. Man when I watch poker vloggers play the $5/$10 in $10 denominations I get so jealous. Go for the $10 breakdown OP!!

 

[doublebooyah85]

I must admit that I'm a growing fan of having a rack of 5s to myself. Makes me feel like a baller lol.
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But I reckon having a rack of 10s would look even better. Man when I watch poker vloggers play the $5/$10 in $10 denominations I get so jealous. Go for the $10 breakdown OP!!

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$10s w the unfair advantage being complimented w $100s > $25s

 

[grandmeme]

$10s w the unfair advantage being complimented w $100s > $25s

You always tempt me with your pics. Gimme 2 racks of $10s OP!!!!

 

[ArielVer18]

If you have $5s and $10s at a 5/10 game, realistically only the player posting the small blind need to use the $5 chip. If this was a self-dealt game, you can get away with only 40 $5s. Anyone who wants change can toss a $10 to another player in exchange for two $5 or simply wait for change from the pot.

Do you have a lot of players who like to make bets ending with a 5? Most people wouldn't touch it. If you feel 50 $5s is too little for your group, get more. I wouldn't get more than 100 though. If players want to see big stacks, it's more fun to have more $10s in your chipset than $5s.

$500s and $1000s hold value in player's stacks and rarely enter the pot. If you already have $1000s, you don't need more than 20 $500s for a single table.

My suggestion:
40-100 $5
300 $10
200-300 $100
20 $500
20-40 $1000

If you like big stacks:
40 $5
900-3000 $10
100 $100
20 $500
40 $1000

 

[power13]

$500 rarely used at these stakes in casinos. As previously said, you don’t need many $5s if the game is not raked, and could consider eliminating them altogether and making it 10/10.

Otherwise I would say

100 $5
400 $10
200 $100
100 $1k

Can do 60 $5 and 40 $1k if you don’t care about even racks.

 

[m700ltr]

Thanks everyone, I've ended up with these denoms:

$5 x 200
$10 x 400
$100 x 200 - 300
$1000 x 100

Starting stacks are 20 | 40 | 10

 

[m700ltr]

Update: chips have been playing well IMO. However, some new players and our dedicated dealer have been whinging about how "casinos use $25 and not $10 chips". Extremely annoying, as when we were previously using my tourney set that was a T25 base along with $5, $10, and $20 denoms (each less than a rack) that the host had, the dedicated dealer kept purposefully avoiding my $25s in favor of the $20s. Also, the game has moved from an hourly dealer fee to tip + rake, so in fact, the $5 denoms are super handy. Yet I still keep getting complaints .

Anyhow, think I'm going to add a $5 $25 $100 $1000 set to see how it plays, and also just to get another set.

 

[Machine]

I would go with 5s and 20s and skip the 10s

its still you're game, run the chips you want and thank the people for the feedback

Dealers can be replaced, and now that its a raked game, you should find a second dealer and have them alternate, if they don't want to give action on the off week find yet another dealer that does.

 

[Seeking Alpha Social Club]

Hi All

Looking to build a $5/$10 set with $10 instead of $25 as workhorse chips. My main reason for using $10 is a) table standard open is $40 b) frequent straddle which makes $25 chip awkward to straddle, double straddle standard open is $60 - $80. In each case, $10 are easier to bet than $25.

No rake 9-ring NLHE home game, 150bb buy-ins, unlimited rebuys. We have reached $45k - $50k bank a couple of times, (I have extra bank of $1000s needn't worry).

$5 x 180
$10 x 300
$100 x 200
$500 x 70

Starting stack would be 20 | 30 | 11. I wouldn't mind halving the number of $5 as they probably won't be used except for SB.

I realize there have been several $5/ $10 breakdowns, but most have opted for $25 as workhorse chips. Would appreciate everyone's input -- TIA!

Also, if I were to run two tables, do I more or less double the chipset?

Hello,

First off, I have zero experience at $5/$10, but frequently use $20s, and $10s occasionally.

I do play $2/$5 with $5s as the work horse, and my first thought was that you might need way more $10s. In our 2/5 game, we usually have 8 players and I can squeeze by will 600 $5s, but it is a much more comfortable game (i.e., avoids constantly having to buy chips from others) with 800 $5s. So my initial thought is that you might need 200 to 300 more $10s, or (as others have suggested), add a rack of $20s.

Other than that, I love the idea of using $10s as the work horse.

 

[doublebooyah85]

Wynn Bellagio and Aria all do or at one time did use the $10 as the workhorse along w the $100 in $5-$10 NL. It’s almost 50/50 if anything more $100s than $10s if it’s a big game.

I find PL games use the $25 > $10 chip regardless the stake.