stonker
Two Pair
Why on television do the announcers always refer to the Ace high flush as the nut flush draw when a straight flush is possible?
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Terminology Question (3 Viewers)
- Thread starter stonker
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Mangatang
Straight
Technically, they shouldn’t.
BPTDirector
Full House
Only when the cards could make a straight flush draw would it be incorrect. Which is 90% of the time.
I've seen this at some local games too, honestly I think the vernacular of poker lingo changes over time, in the same way English or other languages do.
'The nuts' historically has referred to the best hand, but more and more I hear it being re-calibrated in different ways, 'the nut flush' when a boat is possible also coincides and contributes to this as well.
The delineation that a straight flush is a different class of hand, straight vs flush as classes of hands. With a board of 3 possible straights, the nut straight would be self evident, but you wouldn't think to lump in the discussion of flushes while talking about .. idk 'missing a bet on the turn to protect the straight with the second best straight is crazy' - the guy talking is discussing a class of hand, be it the straights... referencing a large bet designed to make it un-palatable to call chasing a flush.
The ambiguous nature of being both a straight and a flush, you currently wouldn't think to lump a straight flush in with a straight right? following that same logic you wouldn't lump it in with a flush, hence The Nut Flush.
I don't know, maybe I'm "Inebriated with the Exuberance of his own verbosity"
I'll sit down now
'The nuts' historically has referred to the best hand, but more and more I hear it being re-calibrated in different ways, 'the nut flush' when a boat is possible also coincides and contributes to this as well.
The delineation that a straight flush is a different class of hand, straight vs flush as classes of hands. With a board of 3 possible straights, the nut straight would be self evident, but you wouldn't think to lump in the discussion of flushes while talking about .. idk 'missing a bet on the turn to protect the straight with the second best straight is crazy' - the guy talking is discussing a class of hand, be it the straights... referencing a large bet designed to make it un-palatable to call chasing a flush.
The ambiguous nature of being both a straight and a flush, you currently wouldn't think to lump a straight flush in with a straight right? following that same logic you wouldn't lump it in with a flush, hence The Nut Flush.
I don't know, maybe I'm "Inebriated with the Exuberance of his own verbosity"
I'll sit down now
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Jake14mw
Flush
Yeah, it's because a Straight Flush and a Flush are considered different hands. The Nut flush is the best flush hand. If you get a straight flush, that is not considered a flush, it's a straight flush. By the same token, the nut straight, would be the highest possible straight, but not a straight flush. The terminology definitely gets weird.
Any more than a wheel is the nut no pair
dmoney
Full House
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