Tourney T5 Tournament Structuring (1 Viewer)

[GrindstonePoker]

Have a $20 game with a group of friends.
T5 based tournament.

Starting stacks:
20 x T5
10 x T25
8 x T50
7 x T100
1 x T1,000
Total = $2,450

Blinds
5/10
10/20
25/50
50/100
100/200
200/400
300/600
400/800
500/1000 - no more progression once this hits

Blinds increase every orbit+1 and whenever a player is knocked out.

2 players knocked out in the same hand; blinds jump twice right there. If that scenario happens as the +1 hits then it’s 3 jumps.

*note* - this is not my setup

 

[Frogzilla]

Some of the craziness aside, for a STT tourney Im intrigued by the idea of hands per level, not timed levels. It’s not the worst idea I’ve ever seen

Why not an extra couple t25 chips to make it an even 2500? Or ditch the 50s and 2 25s for 2000. Is this one of those where someone did a chip inventory, divided it by players, and then boom that’s the start stack?

 

[buffalojim]

Interesting breakdown, kind of weird/inefficient. Seems like too many starting chips and you could do it easier with...

10/10/7/3:
T5
T25
T100
T500

 

[GrindstonePoker]

I’ve scratched my head, made some subtle tweak suggestions. All falls on mostly deaf ears.

Forgot to mention the hard pushback on ever coloring up.

 

[Frogzilla]

I’ve scratched my head, made some subtle tweak suggestions. All falls on mostly deaf ears.

Forgot to mention the hard pushback on ever coloring up.

Ok pic needed of what must be some unusual heads up stacks

 

[GrindstonePoker]

Some of the craziness aside, for a STT tourney Im intrigued by the idea of hands per level, not timed levels. It’s not the worst idea I’ve ever seen

Why not an extra couple t25 chips to make it an even 2500? Or ditch the 50s and 2 25s for 2000. Is this one of those where someone did a chip inventory, divided it by players, and then boom that’s the start stack?

I don’t know where this starting stack comes from. But it’s been this way since I started playing with them. Definitely enough chips to do a better breakdown. It’s so ugly it’s become kinda cute to me and makes me chuckle every time

 

[Frogzilla]

If it makes you feel better, the last neighborhood game I attended, the host picked a few chips from each denomination, and asked us to make similar stacks. Pic below is the starting stack. Also mentioned that we aren’t playing by Vegas rules where if you touch a chip you have to bet it.

Chips were decent so I really hope he’s not a member here, if so thank you for hosting but your tourney style was unusual.

 

[SlowPokeTony]

That blind structure is awful, you might as well not even bother with having any 5s at that point. Slow things down a little bit. T5 is what I’ve hosted forever and we do 10/10/7/3 stacks and start at 10/20 blinds. Then 15/30, 20/40, 25/50, 30/60, 40/80. Slow progression not just double double double double.

 

[Thor99]

This seems like it would make for an awfully quick tournament with the blinds basically doubling every orbit. That also seems like a lot of T5's in play for only the first orbit.

 

[umbkcshah]

player is knocked out.

2 players knocked out in the same hand; blinds jump twice right there. If that scenario happens as the +1 hits then it’s 3 jumps.

This feels like the worst super turbo format. Don't hate the orbit blind increase, but this knockout rule is so weird. Do people not like each other's company? How long does the game last?

Also mentioned that we aren’t playing by Vegas rules where if you touch a chip you have to bet it.

So if you touch a chip, you have to bet it? Sounds fun... He shuffled them, into the pot. Floor, He touched one more when he picked them off the stack.

Then 15/30, 20/40, 25/50, 30/60, 40/80. Slow progression not just double double double double.

Agreed, basically no point in having the 5s which are half the chips. Give them some utility.

 

[LeLe]

Having too many denoms is not the best idea for Tourney, i agreed with the other to keep it 10/10/7/3 for T5 2.5k

Below are the blind that I used for my T5 Tourney

your blind level is too fast and zero need for $5 after first 2 orbit

 

[upNdown]

Where did this idea come from, that blinds increase when somebody gets knocked out? It seems to be a pretty common rule for people who don’t quite know what they’re doing. I’ve read about it in different home games for years. Where did this idea come from?

 

[SlowPokeTony]

Where did this idea come from, that blinds increase when somebody gets knocked out? It seems to be a pretty common rule for people who don’t quite know what they’re doing. I’ve read about it in different home games for years. Where did this idea come from?

Maybe just to really speed things up? It’s very arbitrary and doesn’t make much sense but sometimes you can’t convince a group to do things differently if that’s the way they play. I’ve played in a game that reduces time per level when there are less players which makes a little more sense because you’re getting more hands in. It was usually 15 minutes to start then 12 minutes after color ups at 2 hours, then 8 minutes when down to 3 players or less.

 

[buffalojim]

Having too many denoms is not the best idea for Tourney, i agreed with the other to keep it 10/10/7/3 for T5 2.5k

Below are the blind that I used for my T5 Tourney
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your blind level is too fast and zero need for $5 after first 2 orbit

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Where did this idea come from, that blinds increase when somebody gets knocked out? It seems to be a pretty common rule for people who don’t quite know what they’re doing. I’ve read about it in different home games for years. Where did this idea come from?

I've done this before but won't do it anymore because it made the game even longer. My players can be pretty stupid. First they said 20min blinds were too long. Then they complained that with the 20min blinds it wasn't even making it around table before the next jump. Ok, fine, so I tried raising blinds with orbit +1 and the game took 6 hours. People complained and said that was too long. Sometimes games are a little too social and players need to learn to shut the hell up. Basically, I hate people. Do whatever you want lol.

 

[GrindstonePoker]

Where did this idea come from, that blinds increase when somebody gets knocked out? It seems to be a pretty common rule for people who don’t quite know what they’re doing. I’ve read about it in different home games for years. Where did this idea come from?

I have no idea and I am not a fan. I am slowly working on getting changes made but I don't want to come off as someone trying to take over another man's home game.

This seems like it would make for an awfully quick tournament with the blinds basically doubling every orbit. That also seems like a lot of T5's in play for only the first orbit.

Host wants fast games so we can get two in. It's entirely way too many T5's. It actually slows the game down more than he realizes because no one keeps chips in proper stacks so when you have to count out 300 in fives it takes F'n forever.

 

[SlowPokeTony]

I have no idea and I am not a fan. I am slowly working on getting changes made but I don't want to come off as someone trying to take over another man's home game.

Host wants fast games so we can get two in. It's entirely way too many T5's. It actually slows the game down more than he realizes because no one keeps chips in proper stacks so when you have to count out 300 in fives it takes F'n forever.

It’s not necessarily too many T5s but it is way too many in the sense that they have no use at all after the 2nd level. You’d be better off playing 25/25, 25/50 and it accomplishes the same thing without all the useless chips. Also when you say you don’t color up, that makes it even worse. A barrel of 5s each is fine if you want the chips in game but have a slower structure so that they are useful and get them out of there at the 50/100 level.

 

[GrindstonePoker]

It’s not necessarily too many T5s but it is way too many in the sense that they have no use at all after the 2nd level. You’d be better off playing 25/25, 25/50 and it accomplishes the same thing without all the useless chips. Also when you say you don’t color up, that makes it even worse. A barrel of 5s each is fine if you want the chips in game but have a slower structure so that they are useful and get them out of there at the 50/100 level.

Exactly. I don't mind having lots of chips in play as long as it's efficient.

 

[Kentucky]

If it makes you feel better, the last neighborhood game I attended, the host picked a few chips from each denomination, and asked us to make similar stacks. Pic below is the starting stack. Also mentioned that we aren’t playing by Vegas rules where if you touch a chip you have to bet it.

Chips were decent so I really hope he’s not a member here, if so thank you for hosting but your tourney style was unusual.

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I’m loving the bounty chip behind with the 0.0 on it

 

[JustinInMN]

Where did this idea come from, that blinds increase when somebody gets knocked out? It seems to be a pretty common rule for people who don’t quite know what they’re doing. I’ve read about it in different home games for years. Where did this idea come from?

I remember Party Poker (now nearly 20 years ago, mind you, gasp), did their sit n gos on orbits, not time, so that part triggered that bit of my memory for sure. Escalating on bust-outs, I've played with non-PCF hosts that just use bust-outs as an excuse to move things on.

Obviously, PCFers make the best hosts , so we know all the trouble spots with this.

 

[MyLastChip]

What do the chips Look like?

 

[GrindstonePoker]

Chips aren’t that bad. We upgraded him from a mixed bag of diceys to crown casinos, which are my favorite budget chips.

I will get a picture of my starting stack at the next game.

 

[billkell]

Is this one of those where someone did a chip inventory, divided it by players, and then boom that’s the start stack?

I am so happy I found this forum because this was my first idea as well.

Thank you all for saving me from embarrassing myself!!

 

[Minus]

If it makes you feel better, the last neighborhood game I attended, the host picked a few chips from each denomination, and asked us to make similar stacks. Pic below is the starting stack. Also mentioned that we aren’t playing by Vegas rules where if you touch a chip you have to bet it.

Chips were decent so I really hope he’s not a member here, if so thank you for hosting but your tourney style was unusual.

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Ahhh, good ol' 5-5-8-4...10-6-5-4-2 $49,475 starter pack. There's nothing like it.

 

[BGinGA]

JFC, what a clusterfuck. Where's the 'ignore thread' button?

 

[JustinInMN]

JFC, what a clusterfuck. Where's the 'ignore thread' button?

Oh I am sorry @BGinGA , "Ignore Thread" is an incorrect response. We were looking for "unwatch." "Unwatch."

 

[SlowPokeTony]

JFC, what a clusterfuck. Where's the 'ignore thread' button?

I think the ignore buttons are part of the next group buy keep your eyes peeled