Question about Fournier 2818 Did I get fake ones? (1 Viewer)

[Mr_ESN]

Hello everyone

Before I never had an experience with 100% plastic playing cards so some time ago I decided to buy a deck of Fournier 2818 cards. After a not so active usage of 1-1,5 months I started to notice that images started to wear off as shown on pictures below. Is it a normal thing for this kind of cards or I got a fake deck? I have no knowledge in plastic cards so I decided to ask more experienced users here

 

[springbox]

Hopefully someone else with specific Fournier experiences can comment, but I've definitely seen this on other plastic cards. The Copags I purchased now have similar spotting on them. I would guess it's unlikely they're fake, but I have no information on what seller you bought them from. I will say 1.5 months is a pretty short time frame for cards to show this level of wear, assuming you weren't using them more than once a week.

 

[tabletalker7]

I have a set of Fournier WSOP (they are just 2818s with a different back) that have been used at least once a month for at least 3 years and they still look great.

 

[AlbinoDragon]

That looks like normal light wear from normal use.

The high points in the texture that give plastic cards their grip and un-slippery-ness (to coin a term) wear first.

I rotate amongst four setups (different manufacturers) in my ~ twice a month game and the 2818's in rotation now show similar wear to your photos. I don't notice it unless I specifically look for it, and my far from observant players sure have never mentioned it. Every single setup of cards I have used in 20 years of hosting, no matter who made them, has done this to one degree or another.

In my book, that's normal wear in a card, and unless it becomes noticeable or specific enough to count as a marked card, it doesn't bother me.

Again, that's normal wear in a consumable product. If you are looking for anything (cards, chips, whatever) to look as pristine as the day you bought it despite using it, your expectations are not realistic.

 

[Mr_ESN]

That looks like normal light wear from normal use.

The high points in the texture that give plastic cards their grip and un-slippery-ness (to coin a term) wear first.

I rotate amongst four setups (different manufacturers) in my ~ twice a month game and the 2818's in rotation now show similar wear to your photos. I don't notice unless I specifically look for it, and my far from observant players sure have never mentioned it. Every single setup of cards I have used in 20 years of hosting, no matter who made them, has done this to on e degree or another.

In my book, that's normal wear in a card, and unless it becomes noticeable or specific enough to count as a marked card, it doesn't bother me.

Again, that's normal wear in a consumable product. If you are looking for anything (cards, chips, whatever) to look as pristine as the day you bought it despite using it, your expectations are not realistic.

Thank you for your reply, it is my first plastic playing cards ever, so I just wanted clarify if it's a normal thing. So as far as I understand - it's a pretty much normal level of wear for this period of time and with a high chance I have an original deck of Fournier 2818 cards

 

[LeLe]

It looks like regular wear and tear to me after some usage.

Wear and tear accumulated depending on the other factors besides usage, it could be hasten by type of felt/surface it been used on, the methods of shuffling used etc

 

[NotRealNameNoSir]

What surface do you play on?

 

[stuamurr]

Yes looks like normal wear and tear, you should get a lot more use out of Fournier set-ups before you see this depending on how they are handled and your playing surface etc. In comparison you would see this a lot faster on decks such as Copag and Aristo Club but that's the trade off on price. the biggest cause of paint fleck on playing cards is in my experience harsh riffling / shuffling machines. A gentle riffle and cupped push together will keep a high quality deck going much longer.

 

[Mr_ESN]

What surface do you play on?

I tried to make a soft cover for my table, so it wouldn't be that harsh for them

 

[BPTDirector]

Those cards will last for a long time, you have a real deck most likely and the high points have worn off leaving very minute specks, you needed extreme close up photos to even show them. Be realistic in your expectations, nothing stays perfect even after just a few uses, but these will last at least ten times longer than paper cards making them worth what you paid for them.

 

[CdnBeerLover]

Looks like normal wear to me. The faces will wear a bit due to the friction of sliding against the felt. I mentioned that in a past review of Fournier cards (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/threads/cards-review.3776/#post-14667). I would be more concerned if the backs were showing wear.

 

[Mr_ESN]

Looks like normal wear to me. The faces will wear a bit due to the friction of sliding against the felt. I mentioned that in a past review of Fournier cards (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/threads/cards-review.3776/#post-14667). I would be more concerned if the backs were showing wear.

Backs did show a little wear but it isn't really visible yet.It's needed to look very closely to them to notice that

 

[Chubbs]

The backs showing that level of wear is a bit odd. I have had other brands of plastic cards that I’ve used moderately for years and show the same wear on the face of the cards but no visible wear on the back.

 

[Mr_ESN]

The backs showing that level of wear is a bit odd. I have had other brands of plastic cards that I’ve used moderately for years and show the same wear on the face of the cards but no visible wear on the back.

Backs doesn't show that level of wear. They are more like single tiny white dots, that you can see if you examine them really carefully and specifically compare several backs. Otherwise it isn't seen normally

 

[xdan]

Hello everyone

Before I never had an experience with 100% plastic playing cards so some time ago I decided to buy a deck of Fournier 2818 cards. After a not so active usage of 1-1,5 months I started to notice that images started to wear off as shown on pictures below. Is it a normal thing for this kind of cards or I got a fake deck? I have no knowledge in plastic cards so I decided to ask more experienced users here

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You’re good my man.
Normal wear and tear

 

[roro_rants]

Hello everyone

Before I never had an experience with 100% plastic playing cards so some time ago I decided to buy a deck of Fournier 2818 cards. After a not so active usage of 1-1,5 months I started to notice that images started to wear off as shown on pictures below. Is it a normal thing for this kind of cards or I got a fake deck? I have no knowledge in plastic cards so I decided to ask more experienced users here

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I work in a casino in the UK that uses these cards (personalised obviously) and these specs occur probably 4 out of 5 decks. The quality control from Fournier has been abysmal recently

 

[johnnycnote]

Compared to my set, that looks about right