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I know but I thought it the combos were nice looking. Are there other to colors to chose that would still be cost effective for you?
If the spots are pretty much all re-used then it doesn't matter which colors they use. I was demonstrating a pretty extreme simplified scheme.
 

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So the design challenge is this?

Use the same level 1 spot across all chips
Use the base color from one chip as spots on another chip as much as possible
No premium colors
Inlay design should be relatively generic for mass market appeal
Colors/patterns can not tribute/mimic any previous Paulson fantasy sets
Inexpensive mold: A-Crest, Circle/Square, Horsehead
 

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So the design challenge is this?

Use the same level 1 spot across all chips
Use the base color from one chip as spots on another chip as much as possible
No premium colors
Inlay design should be relatively generic for mass market appeal
Colors/patterns can not tribute/mimic any previous Paulson fantasy sets
Inexpensive mold: A-Crest, Circle/Square, Horsehead
Doesn't have to be the same level 1 spot if it's calculated properly (you can always assume a few less higher denoms needed).
DG and retro ok, just not bright white.
Doubt this criteria would give you anything like any previous Paulson's anyway.
Your other points, yes.

That was for the '2nd' proposed set.
The first was to come up with something for the 2 color pies theme which I was initially earmarking for Elephant & Crown.

So one 'cheap' set and one better one.
 

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Something like this is the most efficient.
It minimises punching, material & assembly, and using the most common colors means any excess parts would quickly get used elsewhere.
Although the website shows suggested make-ups for 300 & 500 sets, most people vary them and because they buy them for a mixture of low limit/high limit/tourney/heads up we actually sell a pretty even quantity of each denom. Can equally be done with 312 or 2 of one and 4 of the other. If someone calculated it right they could make it work from a progressive mix of all the Level 1's. I did that for a very large order once.View attachment 209036
David, here is a configuration of those six colors where a) duplicate colors do not appear in sequential chips, and b) no chips contain the same two colors:
  • White with green
  • Red with blue
  • Green with yellow
  • Black with red
  • Blue with white
  • Yellow with black
.... also true when using yellow as a frac instead of 1000, or even with blue moved to a 5c frac with the yellow quarters. Or when moving white to 5000 and red to 25k, going the opposite direction. It's a very balanced and versatile set of color groupings.

I'd post actual mockups, but I'm on mobile atm.
 

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David, here is a configuration of those six colors where duplicate colors a) do not appear in sequential chips, and b) no chips contain the same two colors:
  • White with green
  • Red with blue
  • Green with yellow
  • Black with red
  • Blue with white
  • Yellow with black
.... also true when using yellow as a frac instead of 1000, or even with blue moved to a 5c frac with the yellow quarters. Or when moving white to 5000 and red to 25k, going the opposite direction. It's a very balanced and versatile set of color groupings.

I'd post actual mockups, but I'm on mobile atm.
That poses a question I asked myself several hours ago (and am still waiting for the answer lol)
Could a fractional and the $1000 be the same color? Notwithstanding that there might be higher denoms than that, you'd probably expect to sell as many each of the red, green, black, blue as the yellows combined. (I only used 6 colors as I was doing it so simple)
In this scheme blue could be purple or lavender if preferred.

I don't know the exact answer, if I did we would have been selling them 4 years ago :)
 

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That poses a question I asked myself several hours ago (and am still waiting for the answer lol)
Could a fractional and the $1000 be the same color? Notwithstanding that there might be higher denoms than that, you'd probably expect to sell as many each of the red, green, black, blue as the yellows combined. (I only used 6 colors as I was doing it so simple)
In this scheme blue could be purple or lavender if preferred.

I don't know the exact answer, if I did we would have been selling them 4 years ago :)
Could the fracs just be solid?
 

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That poses a question I asked myself several hours ago (and am still waiting for the answer lol)
Could a fractional and the $1000 be the same color?

In this scheme blue could be purple or lavender if preferred.
Yes, I think so. I have a very hard time imagining a game using quarters that would also require $1000 chips (although there are a couple I know of where $100 and occasionally $500 chips do see play).

And absolutely, lavender (or retro lav) in that set of six colors would be preferable to any blue shade. Works better for a 500 chip imo, and still functions as a wraparound 5c frac. I think purple is too dark, unless black was replaced by charcoal or grey.
 

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Yes, I think so. I have a very hard time imagining a game using quarters that would also require $1000 chips (although there are a couple I know of where $100 and occasionally $500 chips do see play).

And absolutely, lavender (or retro lav) in that set of six colors would be preferable to any blue shade. Works better for a 500 chip imo, and still functions as a wraparound 5c frac. I think purple is too dark, unless black was replaced by charcoal or grey.
That's why I mentioned lavender, although the black could equally be charcoal.
 

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Definitely can use the same color for frac and 1000.

When buying the 1000 chip it will be for tournament sets only.
 

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I'm not sure if people would pay a touch over $1000 for a 500 chip set though.
Problem with stock sets is you have to keep maybe 10,000 chips in inventory until the next mold run comes round and that's a lot of cost tied up.
We already new the CSQ & Scroll would be popular by the volume of orders in the original buy via this board alone. The Atlantic hotstamps are quick to make and the inlaid don't have to be kept in large qty as the mold is in use all the time. We didn't make many of the Atlantic HHR and are currently out of a couple of denoms so that's the only one that took me by surprise a bit.
Target market is tough to describe. Appears so far to be mainly people who would otherwise just by a plastic set off ebay for $100.
Here's my 2 cents, ( Wait, I have a degree in Marketing, make that my 3 cents :) ):
For the market you are targeting, ( not us for the most part)..
* It's probably more attractive as set if each denom was a different spot on some stock offerings, ( Such as the WTHC), but Level 1 and or 2 Spots are fine. Most sets should stick to "regular" Casino color denom hues, these type buyers probably never heard the word "Cali" and Chip in the same sentence..
* The A mold sells incredibly well & is always in production , so no brainer there.
* An idea for CPC to consider, is putting all stock offerings under, say, a separate "division name", such as Atlantic Poker Chips by CPC ( APC?), All the Atlantic Clubs , Stock A-Molds and other stock sets ... , eventually even a new Web Landing page for them ..
* Some sets that might have wide appeal for gifts & casual buyers looking for quality chips might also include inspiration from the Fabulous Las Vegas Set,and to continue the A-molds Atalantic theme, actual " Atlantic City" themed Tournament and cash chips,...
 
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Here's my 2 cents, ( Wait, I have a degree in Marketing, make that my 3 cents :) ):
For the market you are targeting, ( not us for the most part)..
* It's probably more attractive as set if each denom was a different spot on some stock offerings, ( Such as the WTHC), but Level 1 and or 2 Spots are fine. Most sets should stick to "regular" Casino color denom hues, these type buyers probably never heard the word "Cali" and Chip in the same sentence..
* The A mold sells incredibly well & is always in production , so no brainer there.
* An idea for CPC to consider, is putting all stock offerings under, say, a separate "division name", such as Atlantic Poker Chips by CPC ( APC?), All the Atlantic Clubs , Stock A-Molds and other stock sets ... , eventually even a new Web Landing page for them ..
* Some sets that might have wide appeal for gifts & casual buyers looking for quality chips might also include inspiration from the Fabulous Las Vegas Set,and to continue the A-molds Atlantic theme, actual " Atlantic City" themed Tournament and cash chips,...
They are on their own page:
http://classicpokerchips.com/stock/index.htm
and even their own domain
http://www.homepokerchips.com/
 

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David, this is a fun problem :) My spreadsheet is currently emitting steam.

400 chips, 100 white, 100 red, 100 green, 50 black, 50 purple with 900 spots, all re-used.
3x level 1, black lvl 2 and purple lvl 4
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I'm determined to make this work with almost all lvl 1 and some kind of spot progression
 

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+1 one on this. When I was a newbie looking for chips I didn't understand the fascination with a fake casino named chip. Give me simple, readable, denominations on interesting chips.

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I saw this picture and thought, "who has those beautiful snappers"? Then I realized I took the picture before selling sample sets two years ago :(
 

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9 chips, 9 colors, Each color used once as a base and as a spot, No two chips containing the same two colors, No color repeated within two subsequent chips.

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Not sure if all the colors used would make my final design, but this mock-up is by far the best one I’ve seen so far ITT
 
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