Paulson: Full label replacement tutorial thread

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Murder success!! Turns out to be vinyl labels but they dont pop like horseshoe cincy so more effort was needed.

Took me 10mins/chip at the start and whittled my timing down to 3min/chip toward the end :) Thanks all for the helpful advice!

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Murder success!! Turns out to be vinyl labels but they dont pop like horseshoe cincy so more effort was needed.

Took me 10mins/chip at the start and whittled my timing down to 3min/chip toward the end :) Thanks all for the helpful advice!

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Are those Argosy $5’s? The hotstamp over a label?
Glad to hear Horseshoe Cinci’s are relatively easy (80 on the way to be murdered).
JACK’s were a dream... to murder :sneaky:
 

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Are those Argosy $5’s? The hotstamp over a label?
Glad to hear Horseshoe Cinci’s are relatively easy (80 on the way to be murdered).
JACK’s were a dream... to murder :sneaky:

Yes Argosy $5s! Any idea if they are leaded? Saw some Argosy $25s for sale in classified and they were said to be leaded. They do feel a tad heavier than the horseshoe cincy $5s post removal.

4 barrels you should be done in no time! Should probably take about 2mins/chip once you get the hang of it :)
 
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Yes Argosy $5s! Any idea if they are leaded? Saw some Argosy $25s for sale in classified and they were said to be leaded. They do feel a tad heavier than the horseshoe cincy $5s post removal.

4 barrels you should be done in no time! Should probably take about 2mins/chip once you get the hang of it :)
I’ve never handled them :unsure:.

The Argosy $1’s and $5’s are sweet though!

My current victim count is 600 (200 SY $1’s, 200 UB 25’s & 200 JACK Snappers)
The SY and UB’s were jerks, but them JACKS... I have them at about 1min/chip :cool
 

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I’ve never handled them :unsure:.

The Argosy $1’s and $5’s are sweet though!

My current victim count is 600 (200 SY $1’s, 200 UB 25’s & 200 JACK Snappers)
The SY and UB’s were jerks, but them JACKS... I have them at about 1min/chip :cool
Damn UB $25s are sweet and go for a great price! So are the Jack snappers. You sound experienced horseshoes should be a breeze for you :tup:
 
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Damn UB $25s are sweet and go for a great price! So are the Jack snappers. You sound experienced horseshoes should be a breeze for you :tup:
They are! I’ve loved them since I first joined in ‘16 and had to get’em somehow
After doing my research and developing my own personal systematic murder routine, a callus, a soon to be scar, I’d like to believe I’m fairly experienced :ROFL: :ROFLMAO:
Just can’t wait for the end game! Gonna be sweet :cool
 

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Argosy $5s! Any idea if they are leaded? Saw some Argosy $25s for sale in classified and they were said to be leaded.
Produced by Paulson in 1996 using leaded materials, the Argosy chips were never used and returned to the factory for cancellation by order of the Indiana Gaming Commission (the chips failed to meet regulatory requirements).
 

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Has anyone had a success with a solvent other than non-acetone nail polish remover? I’m having a particularly tough time with some ESPT T25s ... for some reason the inlays seem to be extremely difficult to get off, the nail polish remover doesn’t work great, and discoloration is an issue.
 

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Has anyone had a success with a solvent other than non-acetone nail polish remover? I’m having a particularly tough time with some ESPT T25s ... for some reason the inlays seem to be extremely difficult to get off, the nail polish remover doesn’t work great, and discoloration is an issue.
Maybe try a different brand of NANPR. I noticed a big difference in both effectiveness and degree of discoloration.
 

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Maybe try a different brand of NANPR. I noticed a big difference in both effectiveness and degree of discoloration.
Thanks. Anyone have any recommendations for NANPR in the U.S.? I’ve been using Target brand.
 

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Has anyone had a success with a solvent other than non-acetone nail polish remover? I’m having a particularly tough time with some ESPT T25s ... for some reason the inlays seem to be extremely difficult to get off, the nail polish remover doesn’t work great, and discoloration is an issue.
Having just acquired 2 racks of these for a relabel project, I would be interested In the answer as well.
 

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Having just acquired 2 racks of these for a relabel project, I would be interested In the answer as well.
I’m going to try other varieties, and I’ll let you know. Good luck in any event. Those are the only ones that have given me real trouble.
 

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Still fine with „my*“ method. Did 100 chips today. 20 to go.
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*kill plastic foils by barrel within 10 minutes, use 5-6 nail polish drops per side to release the glue and lift all stickers (5chips per round within 2 minutes). Bath 5 chips in water while doing the next 5 chips. Drying them and put a gear label on them (5 chips 1 Minute) after some hours.
 

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I didn’t want to say that I did invent something, just that I like in which speed, structure and accuracy I am able to replace them.
Cool. I'm always looking for the latest tricks that people come up with which is why I was asking.

I find my approach to be very chip specific. It seems like the NA NPR works differently on different chips (eg SY $2 vs HS $1) effecting how many I do at a time and the groove I can get into.
 

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Awl to pull label cover, plus needle-nose pliers as required.

Nail polish remover to loosen adhesive label.

Tweezers to remove label.

By the barrel, pull 20 label covers, then 20 labels. About 20 minutes per barrel.

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Lot of great information here guys. I'm really thinking about this as a possibility down the road for a custom set. Any suggestions on which type of label to get to fill the recess? Once relabeled is it obvious that it's been murdered? I'm just curious about the relabeling process. If there's another thread for that feel free to point me in that direction. Thanks!
 

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Lot of great information here guys. I'm really thinking about this as a possibility down the road for a custom set. Any suggestions on which type of label to get to fill the recess? Once relabeled is it obvious that it's been murdered? I'm just curious about the relabeling process. If there's another thread for that feel free to point me in that direction. Thanks!

I suggest going with a laminated label from @Gear. It can be gloss, smooth, matte or textured. My preference is matte but I think I am going to try textured for my next project. @Gear can help size the inlay for the chip you are labeling.

If you know what to look for you can tell it has been relabeled. I don't think the average joe would notice.
 

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Once relabeled is it obvious that it's been murdered? I'm just curious about the relabeling process. If there's another thread for that feel free to point me in that direction. Thanks!

A well-done (or even a medium well-done) inlay replacement job looks seemless. Just review the earlier pages in this thread and you'll have everything you need to start your felonious ways.
 

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So I'm assuming this is the better option for labeled Paulson's and not milling like you would do for say hot stamps? I'm just wondering if milling might be the more efficient option.
 

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So I'm assuming this is the better option for labeled Paulson's and not milling like you would do for say hot stamps? I'm just wondering if milling might be the more efficient option.

I am milling my inlaid chips. I have 1100 chips and the thought of doing them all by hand is insane and the cost to have someone else do it would double the cost of the set at least.

I finished the first rack last night and here is the first 20 labeled.

it took about an hour to mill the entire rack. Going forward that time will be less now that I found a system.

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I am milling my inlaid chips. I have 1100 chips and the thought of doing them all by hand is insane and the cost to have someone else do it would double the cost of the set at least.

I finished the first rack last night and here is the first 20 labeled.

it took about an hour to do the mill the entire rack. Going forward that time will be less now that I found a system.

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Looks great! I've been trying to decide how I want to do it. I've done milling before but it's been a minute. What would you say the negative is of milling vs inlay removal?
 

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Looks great! I've been trying to decide how I want to do it. I've done milling before but it's been a minute. What would you say the negative is of milling vs inlay removal?

As @Josh Kifer told me when I asked him about milling the set you will still need to scrape some of the chips along the very edge because not every chip is perfectly centered.

also it took me a long time to get the jig centered and leveled. It is still ever so slightly off but I don’t to chance making it worse.

Now that I have it set it is going quickly and I am happy with the results.
 

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As @Josh Kifer told me when I asked him about milling the set you will still need to scrape some of the chips along the very edge because not every chip is perfectly centered.

also it took me a long time to get the jig centered and leveled. It is still ever so slightly off but I don’t to chance making it worse.

Now that I have it set it is going quickly and I am happy with the results.
Once you get it so it's safely inside of every ring placement, and it's near center, lock that crap in and don't move it. Fighting a perfect center is like herding cats.
 
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