Okay, these Bud Jones are terrible!

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I am so incredibly disappointed with my Bud Jones chips. They stick after all of the care I have put into them.

I have tried washing with soap/water, cleaning in ultrasonic cleaner, and oiling.

Soap and water made them cleaner but made them extremely slippery. Ultrasonic cleaning made them even more slippery and got water under the labels. Oiling... made them even stickier (somehow) and got lube everywhere. Now there's up to four or five sticking together! I'm going to have to wipe them all down with a microfiber cloth.

I am at my whit's end, I've really tried liking these. As a newer chipper, they turned me off to all ceramics until I got some free samples from a recent purchase. I don't know what to do with them because they're cheques and I can cash them for 1:1 value after the casino re-opens.

Does anyone have the magic touch with these or could guide me how to remove THE DAMN STICKINESS? If they weren't worth real money and the only chip at my local casino, I'd have just given up already.
 

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Do you have pictures of the chips? I am interested in this post since I also own bud jones chips.
 

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Ultrasonic cleaning made them even more slippery and got water under the labels. Oiling... made them even stickier (somehow) and got lube everywhere.
I dont think youre supposed to put bud Jones in an ultrasonic....and you're definitely not supposed to oil them..

Also, bud jones are plastic, not ceramic. Unless I missed something... @BGinGA
 

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Correct, @FordPickup92.

Bud Jones are plastic. You don't need to oil plastic.

How long did you leave them in the ultrasonic that water penetrated under the labels?

You can try a high grit sandpaper to reduce slippery-ness. Not sure how that will work on sunction. Some lines of Bud Jones chips are worse than others, V6 for example. I think brand new V7s will also have the suction effect. It disapates over time, but I don't know if home games provides enough action to break them in.

If you're not happy with them, return them to the casino and collect your "rental deposit" back...
 

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Correct, @FordPickup92.

Bud Jones are plastic. You don't need to oil plastic.

How long did you leave them in the ultrasonic that water penetrated under the labels?

You can try a high grit sandpaper to reduce slippery-ness. Not sure how that will work on sunction. Some lines of Bud Jones chips are worse than others, V6 for example. I think brand new V7s will also have the suction effect. It disapates over time, but I don't know if home games provides enough action to break them in.

If you're not happy with them, return them to the casino and collect your "rental deposit" back...
Just for my future reference, is it recommended to put bud jones in an ultrasonic? I can understand them being dirty from the casino, but we normally wash ours with soap and water by hand
 

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I've run maybe 10 Bud Jones S2s through with no ill effects. There wasn't excessive hooker juice, though, so there was no great improvement in appearance, either.

Future plans are to remove labels, sand the chip surface, then hand wash the chips.
 

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Cool thanks, that's good to know. Did you use standard TSP? Appreciate the info, I never know who to tag in newb threads about plastics/ceramics besides Dave lol so now I have another resource for info!
 

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Welcome to high-end plastics. Typically pretty slippery -- some manufacturers are much worse than others -- although some Bud Jones chip lines exhibit an annoying suction effect. Most have metal slug weights inside.

Never oil plastic chips. Hand cleanoing with a dawn detergent solution or ultrasonic cleaning with TSP or equivalent works well, although submersion times should be kept short (especially with older chips).

Ceramics are an entirely different animal, although they shouldn't be oiled, either.
 

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Cool thanks, that's good to know. Did you use standard TSP? Appreciate the info, I never know who to tag in newb threads about plastics/ceramics besides Dave lol so now I have another resource for info!
@BGinGA is a good resource for general chip knowledge. While he knows alot about high end chips, his breadth of knowledge on low end chips is equally impressive.
 

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Washing them by hand ONLY with water and soap should do the cleaning.
Please don't oil or ultrasonically clean them.

Have you tried others Bud Jones Chips?
Perhaps its a general issue that you don't like Bud Jones?
Then I would make the suggestion that you tried to acquire some B&G (Bourgogne & Grasset) chips. They are of even higher quality and not slippery at all.
 

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When Bud Jones chips get a bit of moisture on them, the chips will stick together. The chips are a smooth plastic, so it’s like putting a drop of water between two sheets of plastic and trying to pry them apart.

You can clean with an ultrasonic, but I haven’t seen many bud jones chips that can’t be easily cleaned with just a bit of soap and water. Grime doesn’t stick to plastic as much as it does to clay.

And also, don’t oil them. You should really spend more time reading the forum first, it will save you so many headaches.

I’m gonna guess the chips are from the Oaks card club in emeryville.
 

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So my next question, if you were to put ceramics in an ultrasonic would that take away the printed image on the face?
 

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I’m gonna guess the chips are from the Oaks card club in emeryville.
If yes, then it looks like a mixture of V6 and V7, both of which are notorious for the suction effect (although I would've expected casino used chips to be broken in...)

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I would make the suggestion that you tried to acquire some B&G (Bourgogne & Grasset) chips. They are of even higher quality and not slippery at all.
lolol, yeah right. Not slippery whatsoever. :D :D :D :D :D Find ONE person on here who agrees with you.

So my next question, if you were to put ceramics in an ultrasonic would that take away the printed image on the face?
No, unless the temperature was REALLY high (like boiling water) and you left them submersed for a long time. The dye-sublimation printing process actually forces the ink into the microscopic pores of the chip.

You can actually bake high-quality ceramics in an oven at high temps with zero damage to the underlying chip, although you'll eventually 'burn off' some of the surface printing, making them look faded.
 

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@BGinGA is a good resource for general chip knowledge. While he knows alot about high end chips, his breadth of knowledge on low end chips is equally impressive.
Well, we all had to start somewhere..... although I do try to help prevent new chippers from making the same mistakes already made by others (including me).
 

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lolol, yeah right. Not slippery whatsoever. :D :D :D :D :D Find ONE person on here who agrees with you.


No, unless the temperature was REALLY high (like boiling water) and you left them submersed for a long time. The dye-sublimation printing process actually forces the ink into the microscopic pores of the chip.

You can actually bake high-quality ceramics in an oven at high temps with zero damage to the underlying chip, although you'll eventually 'burn off' some of the surface printing, making them look faded.
Thanks, good to know. Ben generally uses older faded ceramics for chip flattening
 
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I think the only Bay Area casino with BJs is Bay 101.
The California Grand casino also uses Bud Jones for lower denominations.
Whereas Lucky Chances is a hot mess that employs a mixture of Bud Jones, ceramics, and RT Plastics.

I am so incredibly disappointed with my Bud Jones chips. They stick after all of the care I have put into them.

Does anyone have the magic touch with these or could guide me how to remove THE DAMN STICKINESS? If they weren't worth real money and the only chip at my local casino, I'd have just given up already.
Sounds like u're becoming a true chipper at heart @StatTracker. If u wanna avoid plastics, venture outside of Emeryville & u'll encounter clay chips at several casinos such as Casino M8trix, The Palace, and Casino Real.
 

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I haven't had any issues with my Bud Jones S2 chips, but they don't have the suction effect. Some needed some light soap and water cleaning, definitely stuck together when wet, but after drying they're good. Wipe all the oil off for sure, oil is only for the clay chips.
 

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lolol, yeah right. Not slippery whatsoever. :D :D :D :D :D Find ONE person on here who agrees with you.

I think it depends on their relative use. My Bud Jones S2 chips are not slippery at all, because they were unplayed when acquired. I've even posted a (blurry) video to prove it.

Also, the suction effect only applies to some Bud Jones chips, and depends on the deformability of the plastic.

Bud Jones are generally safe in the ultrasonic. I've cleaned a few (but only a relative few).

No oil for plastic chips, regardless of manufacturer.
 

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it's the smoothness of the surface, more of a suction thing than stickiness. the challenge is to push them out as roulette payouts ~then you wish they were sticky (because they are also slippery) now they are available with a textured face.
 

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I have a few sets of Abiatti roulettes that I use which are plastic. I give them a dry wash in a mixture of baby powder and corn starch then wipe them all down. Works great for a while, then I do the dry wash again when they start getting sticky.
 

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I have a few sets of Abiatti roulettes that I use which are plastic. I give them a dry wash in a mixture of baby powder and corn starch then wipe them all down. Works great for a while, then I do the dry wash again when they start getting sticky.

Don't you get a chalky finish from the baby powder/corn starch?
 

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Not after wiping off the excess. One of the drawbacks though is that the chips become uber slippery right after washing. It takes a little bit of handling to get them back to optimal.
 

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Would be nice to know which line (version) of Bud Jones chips you are referring to... big difference between S2’s and V7’s etc IMO
 

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Would be nice to know which line (version) of Bud Jones chips you are referring to... big difference between S2’s and V7’s etc IMO
How do you know what the difference is? Where can I find that out?
 
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