Nexgen label (1 Viewer)

[Himewad]

I've just been messing around with a new design, and wanted to get some feedback. I like the black background of the Majestic label, so I went with this layout. Not sure if I want denoms or not yet. Gonna play around with both. I know I need to improve the resolution. These are very rough until I get my graphic designer friend involved.

These are going on Nexgen 8000s, so the colors are the same as on the chips. The tigerhawk is the chip color, and the outline of the tigerhawk is the edge spot color.

 

[bsdunbar1]

Looks good except for that logo.
Here is an improvement....

 

[allforcharity]

Be very careful with white text on any black/dark background The real world results might not be as clear to read as you may think. You may want to use larger fonts to ensure legibility.

 

[Himewad]

Be very careful with white text on any black/dark background The real world results might not be as clear to read as you may think. You may want to use larger fonts to ensure legibility.

Thanks for the advice. I'll make sure to print samples.

 

[Himewad]

Kind of procrastinated a bit on my relabel project. Trying out a slightly new design.



Gonna print them out and see how they look.

 

[allforcharity]

Sometimes it's difficult to work with a black background. Why not try this: modify it so that the outline of the tigerhawk is always white or light grey. I think you'll see that the colour of the hawk head will pop out much more. (You can even get fancier and use a gradient for the hawk head.)

 

[Himewad]

I agree that some colors work better with the chip color scheme than others. I'll try your suggestion. In the meantime, I removed the gradient from the letters to make them stand out more.

 

[Himewad]

white outlines on the tigerhawk logo … didn't mess with grading the color (different fonts)

 

[Himewad]

white backgrounds with no outline (different fonts)

 

[Himewad]

I think I like the second font because it's a bit thicker. So you guys think the white background would yield better results?

Would I notice a big difference printing on 1" labels as opposed to 0.875" labels? Putting them on NexGen 8000 chips (Las Vegas mold).

 

[allforcharity]

By all means keep the black background if that's what you like. Thicker font will be better because it's easy to lose thin white lines over black when printed and seen from 3 feet away.

 

[Himewad]

I’m going to do prototypes for each background and see what I think. Might even be interesting to have black on one side and white on the other. Maybe.

For those of you that have printed on quality laser printers ... what material do you suggest? I was originally looking at the vinyl, but am also looking at the weatherproof polyester.

https://www.onlinelabels.com/materials/weatherproof-vinyl-laser

https://www.onlinelabels.com/materials/polyester-laser-labels

 

[Himewad]

Leaning toward these now. My prototypes look very nice. Think I'm gonna outsource the printing, though. I want to use a commercial printer.

 

[zo121179]

Avery 6450 made these. avery.com is a very useful site.

 

[Chaboudy]

Avery 6450 made these. avery.com is a very useful site.

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Those look good

 

[Beakertwang]

Avery 6450 made these. avery.com is a very useful site.

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What did the Avery labels end up costing you?

 

[zo121179]

For this set about $30.

 

[Beakertwang]

For this set about $30.

How many chips?

 

[zo121179]

How many chips?

1300 chips for my limit set.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00DSYED3...olid=2RS5B84OGHAZZ&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it

You can get 472 chips/package of labels. I bank on 450 for screw ups.

https://www.rustoleum.com/product-catalog/consumer-brands/specialty/matte-finish/

This is a great cheap sealer. Not as tacky as clear acrylic and is about half the cost. About $2.50 a can after military discount and lasts about 1000 chips.

 

[Beakertwang]

@zo121179, So you still printed them yourself? I thought you meant Avery.com did the printing for you.

 

[zo121179]

@zo121179, So you still printed them yourself? I thought you meant Avery.com did the printing for you.

You can do both, there are costs and there's no guarantee they come back aligned. I've tried a package and wasn't pleased with the results. The QC in my home is much better. $50 worth of laser toner lasts about a year so I really don't even look at that as an expense. Time for me was the killer, it took a couple of years to get to this. I have a tourney set which I'll share pics later. I get my 1,000's in the mail on Thursday.

 

[Himewad]

Here are my prototypes after even more revisions. Put a black outline around the logo to make it stand out more against the background, and put a solid black stripe behind the lettering for the same reason. I (obviously) cut the circles myself. The real thing would have scored circle cuts. Leaning toward ordering the weatherproof polyester labels from onlinelabels.com (I used their Design Maestro - nice free tool), having them printed on our in-house print shop's enormous commercial printer, then spraying them with Krylon Preserve It. I'll look into that Rustoleum one, too.

 

[Himewad]

Avery 6450 made these. avery.com is a very useful site.

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Those must be my old white Nexgens, huh? Nice to see them put to good use!

 

[zo121179]

Those must be my old white Nexgens, huh? Nice to see them put to good use!

They are!

 

[zo121179]

Here are my prototypes after even more revisions. Put a black outline around the logo to make it stand out more against the background, and put a solid black stripe behind the lettering for the same reason. I (obviously) cut the circles myself. The real thing would have scored circle cuts. Leaning toward ordering the weatherproof polyester labels from onlinelabels.com (I used their Design Maestro - nice free tool), having them printed on our in-house print shop's enormous commercial printer, then spraying them with Krylon Preserve It. I'll look into that Rustoleum one, too.

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If you want to move on from this project keep me in mind, I love these chips.

 

[Himewad]

If you want to move on from this project keep me in mind, I love these chips.

Will do, but I can't imagine getting rid of them. I love them, too. And my poker buddies always comment that they like them. Even the ones that play in casinos regularly like them.

 

[Himewad]

1300 chips for my limit set.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00DSYED3...olid=2RS5B84OGHAZZ&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it

You can get 472 chips/package of labels. I bank on 450 for screw ups.

https://www.rustoleum.com/product-catalog/consumer-brands/specialty/matte-finish/

This is a great cheap sealer. Not as tacky as clear acrylic and is about half the cost. About $2.50 a can after military discount and lasts about 1000 chips.

So are those just paper labels that you put on your chips?

 

[zo121179]

Yep, passed the water drop test so I’m running with them.

 

[Himewad]

I saw on the onlinelabels.com site, they had two recommendations for waterproofing their labels. 1) spray them like you did. 2) put a clear label over the printed label.

I kind of like the second idea. I’m going to get a sample sheet of clear labels and see what they look like. Seems like it would be a longer lasting (and better) protection than a spray.

 

[zo121179]

I did the clear laminate as well, however I could not get my cutter to cut both the vinyl and laminate simultaneously. I had to cut separately and getting them aligned was a SOB. If I have a commercial cutter I’m sure it wouldn’t be difficult.