Tourney Newbie Host - Tournament and Cash Game (1 Viewer)

[Wyldfyre]

Hello.
As the title says, I've recently become interested in hosting events.
In the past, the group of friends and I have planned an annual tournament and unfortunately I've been stricken by the bug after this last event.

I've been watching A LOT of the Hobbyphilic videos (great, entertaining source) on YouTube and I've ordered about 12 samples (with 3 more on the way).
Right now my thoughts are to get two sets of chips. One for tournaments and one for a casual cash game.

For the Tournament:
Typically 8-10 players. If I'm using the terminology correct (again, new) it will be a T10,000 event. Starting with 25/50 blinds.
It seems like the 12/12/7/5 breakdown (25/100/500/1000 chips) would be use.

I'm leaning towards getting a 500 chip set of the NexGens with the following breakdown (quantity x denomination):
150 x 25
150 x 100
100 x 500
50 x 1000
25 x 5000
25 x 25000 (just because)

I thought about
125 x 25
125 x 100
125 x 500
100 x 1000
25 x 5000

I believe we typically double the blinds every 20-30 minutes and I guess could color up after round 3??

For the Cash Games:
I believe these will be 6-8 players.
Thought about getting a set of Pharaohs for this. So the first question is should the better chips be used for tourneys? My thought is since this should hopefully be casual....
20$ breakdown, starting with .05/.10
20/16/10/1 (.05/.25/1.00/5.00)
Second question would be should blinds increase in this low end of a casual cash game. Maybe set a timer for 30-45 minutes for this (.10/.20, then .25/.50?)?
Idea is maybe to allow one rebuy in the first hour?

(quantity x denomination):
200 x .05
175 x .25 (maybe reduce to 150?)
100 x 1.00
25 x 5.00
If I reduce the .25 to 150, that will give 25 chips elsewhere, recommendations? $25?

With the Pharaoh's (Apache Poker), it doesn't look like I'm locked in to buying by 25 chips at a time. So the above is completely flexible. The only reason to order a set of 300 or 500 is just because of the cases being sold.


I appreciate the time/feedback.

 

[trigs]

Second question would be should blinds increase in this low end of a casual cash game. Maybe set a timer for 30-45 minutes for this (.10/.20, then .25/.50?)?
Idea is maybe to allow one rebuy in the first hour?

Cash games, imho, should have a set blind level. Don't be increasing them throughout the night (unless you have a group that gambles like crazy and you end up with huge money on the table and everyone agrees to up the blinds - even then I'm wary of doing it). Also, in cash games, players should be allowed to rebuy up to the max whenever they bust (or even if they want to top up a short stack). No limits on the amount of rebuys in cash games.

I have a set of Pharaoh's from Apache. Great starter chips imo.

Also, for your cash breakdown, you don't need more than 100 of the smallest denomination ($0.05s for you). They are only used for blinds and more than 100 on the table is just pointless. A better cash game breakdown would be:

100 - $0.05s
200 - $0.25s
300 - $1.00s
50 - $5s

or something along those lines. I'll leave the tournament questions to others who know better than I do.

Now that I think of it, it's probably better to get 100 $0.10s if possible instead of $0.05s and have $0.10-$0.20 blinds (or $0.10-$0.10 blinds).

 

[JustinInMN]

Cash games, imho, should have a set blind level. Don't be increasing them throughout the night

+1

that I think of it, it's probably better to get 100 $0.10s if possible instead of $0.05s and have $0.10-$0.20 blinds (or $0.10-$0.10 blinds).

Dimes and quarters are just awkward in the same game because they cannot divide each other. For cash I would do either nickel-quarter-dollar or dime-half-dollar for the progression.

100 - $0.05s
200 - $0.25s
300 - $1.00s
50 - $5s

I like this breakdown for .05-.10 or .10-.25.

If you really want to do .25-.50 you should probably go for more fives and maybe fewer ones if you are limited to 650 chips.

 

[JustinInMN]

I'm leaning towards getting a 500 chip set of the NexGens with the following breakdown (quantity x denomination):
150 x 25
150 x 100
100 x 500
50 x 1000
25 x 5000
25 x 25000 (just because)

I would tweak this a bit. One cheat we have in tournament breakdowns is not to use too many T500 since they really are only needed to divide T1000s. So you can buy 125/125/75/125/50 of T25/100/500/1000/5000 and get 10 stacks of 12/12/5/6 or 15 stacks of 8/8/4/7.

(If you want a sleeve of T25K instead of two sleeves of t5k that's fine too.)

But don't short yourself on T1000. These are main chips deeper in the tournament and what you use from the bank for color ups.

Speaking of color ups, just remove chips when they don't have use. My typical starting structure (see link in signature) is 50-100, 75-150, 100-200, 150-300, 200-400 so you can color up the T25 after. The 150-300 level.

 

[JustinInMN]

(quantity x denomination):
200 x .05
175 x .25 (maybe reduce to 150?)
100 x 1.00
25 x 5.00

I have had sets like this and I think you would be over buying blind chips. They take longer to count in all ins and are only used in the initial round of betting. For the range of .05-.10 to .25-.50 I would suggest the following.

100*5c
200*25c
150*1
50*5, and if you really think you will do up to .25-.50 often add 50 singles and 50 fives to this.

 

[BSteck]

I believe we typically double the blinds every 20-30 minutes and I guess could color up after round 3??

Here's what I think is a pretty typical tourney structure for T10k. Do a search and I'm sure you'll find several other variations. You won't find too many people here advocating for 'doubling the blinds' with each level. This structure averages ~44% increase per level.

Round SB BB SB Increase BB Increase

L1 25 50
L2 50 100 100% 100%
L3 75 150 50% 50%
L4 100 200 33% 33%
L5 150 300 50% 50%
Break Remove T25 chips
L6 200 400 33% 33%
L7 300 600 50% 50%
L8 400 800 33% 33%
L9 600 1200 50% 50%
L10 800 1600 33% 33%
Break Remove T100 chips
L11 1000 2000 25% 25%
L12 1500 3000 50% 50%
L13 2000 4000 33% 33%
L14 3000 6000 50% 50%
4000 8000 33% 33%
6000 12000 50% 50%
8000 16000 33% 33%

 

[BSteck]

And here's what my spreadsheet kicked out for your 12/12/7/5 T10k set. Includes rebuys for half the table but doesn't include any on-time bonus chips, etc. YMMV.

 

[Wyldfyre]

Thank you all for the time/comments. I'll read and re-read tonight because I'm anxious to order!

 

[Wyldfyre]

Cash set (.05/.10, $20 buy in) in.

Now just waiting for the tourney set.
☺

 

[Wyldfyre]

Tourney set.
Not shown: 1 rack $25, 1 rack $100

Already trying to think of a custom set now....