Tourney Need advice on my starting stack for new tournament chip set (5 Viewers)

[Motte]

Hello there,

So I plan on hosting my own poker tournament up to 27 players and I want to figure out exactly how many chips of each denoms I need to buy accordingly to a proper STARTING STACK. I plan on buying 1000 chips. Btw I kinda copied a local card room for the whole tournament structure. So basically I will use T100 base (T100,T500,T1000,T5000 and maybe couples T10000 not sure about those yet). Lets put the starting stack at 30k (although I could have some flexibilty from 20k to 40k). My local card room use this distribution 5/7/6/4 (30k) but I have ONE BIG PROBLEM with it. There are too few lower chips for the early stages bets and blinds and the dealers end up making chnage constantly which I want to avoid for my own tournament.

So I've played a bit/ tweak with the initial starting stack and here is the 4 distribution that speak the most to me. I'm pretty sure 10x100 is a good starting point so ill include that in each distribution. Id like to hear your thoughts on maybe which one(s) would be the best, if you see potential problems or maybe you have a better distribution to propose.
1. 10/6/6/4
2. 10/8/5/4
3. 10/10/9/3
4. 10/10/4/4

Thank you !

 

[iLogik]

I prefer 1

 

[wickedwonka121]

Rebuys?

 

[Motte]

Rebuys?

I plan on doing different tournaments/theme nights, freeze out, bounty and yes rebuys could be an option !

 

[wickedwonka121]

@NotRealNameNoSir

 

[BPTDirector]

@BGinGA this is the way…..

 

[Thomacetti]

3 -> more workhorse chips = better

 

[wickedwonka121]

I plan on doing different tournaments/theme nights, freeze out, bounty and yes rebuys could be an option !

That's a good reason for the big chips, not just color ups. My sets can drop 20 initial buys. At T25 that's a 5k starting stack. I'll us the 5k for a rebuy and make change quickly with the table. That rack of 5k allows some ridiculous number rebuys, I think almost 50. Final table will have 1ks and 5ks. It should be easy to finish the tourney there. If not I have some starbursts I can lay on the table as 25ks.

Run your spread sheets with most initial buys, then general color ups, next denom to cover previous denom. You don't have to color up that way, but this is the most conservative way. Last time I checked I only needed something like 5 or 6 5ks to cover the color ups so a rack was plenty.

If you shoot me your email I'll send you my spreadsheet. It isn't polished but you can see how I try to manage my sets.

Good luck.

 

[BGinGA]

I plan on hosting my own poker tournament up to 27 players and I want to figure out exactly how many chips of each denoms I need to buy accordingly to a proper STARTING STACK.

I will use T100 base (T100,T500,T1000,T5000 and maybe couples T10000 not sure about those yet). Lets put the starting stack at 30k (although I could have some flexibilty from 20k to 40k).

which one(s) would be the best, if you see potential problems or maybe you have a better distribution to propose.
1. 10/6/6/4
2. 10/8/5/4
3. 10/10/9/3
4. 10/10/4/4

T100 and T1000 chips are the workhorses, while fewer T500s are needed (only one per bet, max). The T5000 chip numbers required later can be reached via subsequent color-ups.

So for a 27-player T100-base set with 30k stacks (150bb with 100/200 blinds):

10/6/11/3 if no antes (15/7/10/3 if using BBA).

Use T5000 chips for T100/T500 color-ups, and T25k chips for T1000 color-ups.

270 x T100
162 x T500
297 x T1000
104 x T5000 (23x for color-ups)
12 x T25000
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845 chips, minimum (if no antes)

405 x T100
189 x T500
270 x T1000
109 x T5000 (28x for color-ups)
11 x T25000
-----------
984 chips, minimum (with BBA)

Re-buys and/or larger starting stacks will require more T5000 chips (+60 for up to ten 30k re-buys, +54 for up to 27 40k stacks).

 

[DeeVee8]

I've become a big fan of 15/7/x/x with T100. It gives you 5k, making the rest of the stack easy to build. 10x100's never seems to be enough, BBA or not.

 

[Motte]

T100 and T1000 chips are the workhorses, while fewer T500s are needed (only one per bet, max). The T5000 chip numbers required later can be reached via subsequent color-ups.

So for a 27-player T100-base set with 30k stacks (150bb with 100/200 blinds):

10/6/11/3 if no antes (15/7/10/3 if using BBA).

Use T5000 chips for T100/T500 color-ups, and T25k chips for T1000 color-ups.

270 x T100
162 x T500
297 x T1000
104 x T5000 (23x for color-ups)
12 x T25000
-----------
845 chips, minimum (if no antes)

405 x T100
189 x T500
270 x T1000
109 x T5000 (28x for color-ups)
11 x T25000
-----------
984 chips, minimum (with BBA)

Re-buys and/or larger starting stacks will require more T5000 chips (+60 for up to ten 30k re-buys, +54 for up to 27 40k stacks).

Thank you helps a lot !

 

[Grimalkin]

#3

You’ll want a lot of 1K on the tables later in the game.

 

[allforcharity]

More T1k than T500, fo' sho'

 

[Motte]

So I've narrowed it down to 10/6/11/3 or 10/8/10/3 depending on how many t500 I need not sure what's the best here.

 

[Grimalkin]

I’d rather have 6 x 500 and 11 x 1k personally than the other way around.

 

[Motte]

I’d rather have 6 x 500 and 11 x 1k personally than the other way around.

even with rebuys you think 6 is enough ?

 

[Grimalkin]

even with rebuys you think 6 is enough ?

I’m no expert, but I never use 500 for rebuys. Only use chips you want on the table at the end of the tournament. This means only using 5K chips preferably, and some 1K if you want. No 500 chips enter the table other than the initial stack.

And 6x500 per player on the table is enough to make change from rebuys if that is what you are asking, imo.

 

[Motte]

I’m no expert, but I never use 500 for rebuys. Only use chips you want on the table at the end of the tournament. This means only using 5K chips preferably, and some 1K if you want. No 500 chips enter the table other than the initial stack.

And 6x500 per player on the table is enough to make change from rebuys if that is what you are asking, imo.

Yeah that was my question, I was scared someone comes in with 5ks and is having trouble making change. Thank you !

 

[Grimalkin]

Yeah that was my question, I was scared someone comes in with 5ks and is having trouble making change. Thank you !

In this scenario, you have lots of 1K chips on the table also, so you make change for 1K, some 500.