Micro/frac addon: solids or reverse spot progression (1 Viewer)

[drdr]

Been contemplating an addon to a CPC set that would enable a range of micro stakes. Yes, that includes the craziness of a 1c/2c limit game some of my players want, hence the 1c chip.
Of course only a subset of denoms would ever be in play at a time.
I'm trying to ensure the addon "completes" as a set and am open to other ideas. Truly appreciate any replies.

Current set.

Addon Idea #1 - Solid micro/fracs 1c / 5c / 25c alongside the existing $1.
Mocked up by following general convention/advice of using solids for fracs, asp per the thread... Why preference for solid fracs?

Addon idea #2 - Regressed spot progression 1c / 5c / 25c alongside the existing $1.
Kind of liked the idea of spots progressing outward from the $1 in both directions. Madness?
Yes, I do like the Paris $1 which inspired the 1c... a reason to attempt the reverse progression.

 

[improviseallday]

All solid will make it hard to count stacks.

I like the reverse progression. Another idea- how about 118/218/318 or 218/318/418? Gets you closer to the Paris chip anyways.

Also consider hotstamps to further distinguish the fracs.

 

[AlbinoDragon]

I have become a big proponent of what I'm calling a Gaussian spot progression. Most detailed/expensive spots on the workhorse chips and going to less complex in the denoms on either end. I did this for my Devil's Nest set:

https://www.pokerchipforum.com/threads/a-d-s-devils-nest-cpc-customs.78031/

...and wish I had done it earlier.


That said, spot progression is something that chippers really created. Yeah, you see it a bit in casinos, but I've also seen them using rather simple spots on their high denomination chips. In reality, they are your customs and you can do whatever suits your fancy.

I agree with @improviseallday , all solids, especially the three lighter/pastel colors you have are asking to be tough to distinguish in stacks. If the room is on the darker side it will be more so. If you pick a dark color, light one and bright color for the three solids, it could work.

 

[drdr]

All solid will make it hard to count stacks.

I like the reverse progression. Another idea- how about 118/218/318 or 218/318/418? Gets you closer to the Paris chip anyways.

Also consider hotstamps to further distinguish the fracs.

I'll try mocking up those spots, see how they look. Will post them, but need to look after a sick kid for a little while.

I have become a big proponent of what I'm calling a Gaussian spot progression. Most detailed/expensive spots on the workhorse chips and going to less complex in the denoms on either end. I did this for my Devil's Nest set:

Interesting. My initial mock up with J5 was for reverse spot progression. The $1 was originally 814 as to my eye many spots were gaudy/classless and larger denoms should be classier. J5 suggested typical progression instead and mocked the labels on both. In the end I liked both but went with 114 progressing typically due to cost.
Cool set, mate. And thanks for your other advice points too. I am wary of low light issues. Tolerated a sluggo set for 18 years where some denoms were hard to tell apart as all had the same white spots. Did upgrade the lighting in the room a few weeks ago to help.

 

[benjaminbreakfast]

for me I would try something like solid, 1/4 and 1/2 pie. with your colors would be like this.

 

[drdr]

for me I would try something like solid, 1/4 and 1/2 pie. with your colors would be like this.
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Ah, now that's a cool option I hadn't considered. Will explore.
My brain is struggling a bit, trying to force a 25c to be a 1/4 pie (1/4 of a $1). If done, that would push the 5c to 1/2 pie which doesn't make sense (not 1/2 of a $1). But I probably have to get over that way of thinking.

Oh... your pic updated and switched the 1/2 and 1/4 around. Seems a neater progression from solid to 1/4 pie.

 

[improviseallday]

Ah, now that's a cool option I hadn't considered. Will explore.
My brain is struggling a bit, trying to force a 25c to be a 1/4 pie (1/4 of a $1). If done, that would push the 5c to 1/2 pie which doesn't make sense (not 1/2 of a $1). But I probably have to get over that way of thinking.

It's half of 10¢ if that helps at all x)

 

[benjaminbreakfast]

also you could try all solids with some good ol Hotstamps

 

[drdr]

also you could try all solids with some good ol Hotstamps

Certainly is an option. But I prefer keeping the same inlay for the whole set.

 

[drdr]

Damnit getting colours right can be so frustrating! Scrapping the Paris $1 inspiration for the 1c as it was leading me astray. Could always just buy a Pairs set.

Tried @improviseallday suggestion of 118/218/318 or 218/318/418. But to me it wasn't sitting right with the rest of the set and the cost was substantial.

Tried @benjaminbreakfast 1/2 and 1/4 pie fracs and that works really well. Yet the 5c pink/lavender mix is bothering me. Could be due to my protanomaly - makes my eyes want to bleed though probably looks fine to everyone else. I want a pink 5c but can't seem to find a colour to pair with pink that looks good or doesn't duplicate another chip's colour. Half pie Pink with my original black is just to stark.

Attempts at other 5c pink combinations... maybe I should just stick with pink and lavender:

And now I've gone at got myself distracted. Thought why not go somewhere between 1/2 and 1/4 pies and the x14 spots of the current set.

Overall, I like both of the new options more than my original plan of pure solids or using reverse progression with x14 spots.
As such, the feedback has been of great help thus far. Thanks.

 

[drdr]

Aha... this may be it!
Only colouring 1/4 of the pink 5c with black keeps it balanced and resolves the lavender I'm struggling with.

 

[NotRealNameNoSir]

I really think you should pump the brakes a while. You've got lots of great designs and ideas but there's a frantic energy in this post that doesnt always lead to your dream set. The price increase isn't crazy high, be careful not to jump into a set you wont love for a hundred less.

Up to you, just one opinion.

 

[drdr]

I really think you should pump the brakes a while. You've got lots of great designs and ideas but there's a frantic energy in this post that doesnt always lead to your dream set. The price increase isn't crazy high, be careful not to jump into a set you wont love for a hundred less.

Up to you, just one opinion.

But an excellent opinion. I definitely agree.
I'll sit on this for a while, perhaps to just before the end of year CPC price increase. If I'm still not certain by then I'll wait longer. Better to get it right.

 

[benjaminbreakfast]

seems like you found what you were looking for here. Looks great. has the colors you were looking for and the reverse spot progression and even at a cheaper price.

 

[GreekRedEye]

pink + charcoal looks great to me and and grey is a color you have not used yet.

This is a cash set, right? Do you really need $1000 chips?

 

[drdr]

seems like you found what you were looking for here. Looks great. has the colors you were looking for and the reverse spot progression and even at a cheaper price.
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Yeah, seems so. Has the advantage of being cheaper than the 1/4 pies and would work better with the inlays that are colour matched to base colour fading from bottom to top. But I still do like the 1/4 pies you introduced to me. There's something about pies for fracs that is growing on me. Will stare at them a week or so.

Thanks for your help/time. Very cool of you, and everyone.

 

[drdr]

pink + charcoal looks great to me and and grey is a color you have not used yet.

This is a cash set, right? Do you really need $1000 chips?

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This is true, missed that combination with the 1/2 pie experiments. They'd get called gallahs over here.

Will perch on this choice for a bit.

 

[drdr]

seems like you found what you were looking for here. Looks great. has the colors you were looking for and the reverse spot progression and even at a cheaper price.
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Long time since you posted (thanks by the way). But I think you are right. Have come back to think a few times and consistently settling back on the image you posted. I'll still try a few related changes, but almost there.

 

[drdr]

Been once again. Has come down to two final options, I think. Still a fan of different spots for micro cash addon versus the existing combined cash/tourney set. First option one has simpler/clean feel. But the second has some spot matching to the existing set, where $1 and 1c, $5 and 5c, $25 and 25c chip pairs have the same spot number. Second option also kind of pays respect to that $1 Paris blue/white idea from initial post. All L1 so good bang for buck too.

Option 1 (from previous):

Option 2 (new):

Existing set: