Anyone seen these? Popped up on my social media account.
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Lotus Shuffler (1 Viewer)
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RocAFella1
Royal Flush
All it does is riffle the deck once? A much shittier Shuffletech basically.
Fancy BS buzzword, "inverse riffle"... still a riffle but you would need to reload and run it 3-7 times. Anyone with any skills could hand shuffler much faster, seems kinda lame.
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I liked how quiet it seemed to be. And if I had to load it a few times, that’s not horrible.
Maybe ”inverse riffle” will be the new ”official casino weight” or ”composite clay”.
I do applaud any attempt to create something that works well while not costing an arm and a leg (ST and up). But if the purpose is speeding up the game, one that has to be manually reloaded multiple times can’t really be considered working well.
If I physically couldn’t shuffle the deck I’d fork up the $600-700 for a ST.
I do applaud any attempt to create something that works well while not costing an arm and a leg (ST and up). But if the purpose is speeding up the game, one that has to be manually reloaded multiple times can’t really be considered working well.
If I physically couldn’t shuffle the deck I’d fork up the $600-700 for a ST.
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I asked for another video with sound, and the response time was impressive. They sent me two videos. Unfortunately, it was louder than I expected. I like how compact this thing is, though. I also asked if they tested it with 100% plastic cards, and they said they did, but they didn't try a bunch of different plastic brands. I forgot to ask if they tested it on poker and bridge size decks. I just sent that question off to them.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/jXFNKzDJouXKue967
https://photos.app.goo.gl/pwcS7oqx7ftEKtGg8
I might decide to grab one anyway. If nothing else, it would be nice for our family game nights playing Phase 10 or Uno. We'll see.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/jXFNKzDJouXKue967
https://photos.app.goo.gl/pwcS7oqx7ftEKtGg8
I might decide to grab one anyway. If nothing else, it would be nice for our family game nights playing Phase 10 or Uno. We'll see.
ekricket
Royal Flush
Let us know. I’m considering one for travel, lots of times we end up playing with strangers that can’t shuffle and they get freaked out by how good some people shuffle. I like it holds the deck too
I think I am going to start a new band called "MrBoosh and the Inverse Riffles." Coming to a casino music venue near you!!!!!
spartan037
Two Pair
Why inverse a Riffler?
RadicusScout
Flush
Tell them there is a bunch of people here who'd be willing to give product feedback.
I think this shuffler as is would be great for the boardgaming community. There are many games with cards that need to be shuffled for play (I'm playing Splendor with my daughter and that game alone has 3 decks to manage). I love that the cards don't get bent while shuffling. That's a cool feature.
As for the poker crew, this shuffler would have to nail the standard riffle x2, box, riffle at a bare minimum to have a chance.
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I received mine over the weekend when I was out of town. Just tested it this morning. First of all, it's powered by a 9-volt battery. I assumed it would be a USB-charged item, but I was wrong. So I'm not crazy about that, mainly because if the battery leaks, the entire unit is ruined and useless.
I love the compact size. Much, much smaller than other card shufflers you see on the market.
My poker size Desjgn cards work fine, but my bridge size Desjgn cards didn't work at all. The machine just didn't feed the cards at all for some reason.
Also, it's definitely louder than I would prefer. Probably not a big deal considering there will be table chatter to cover up the sound.
I will see how it works for my next home game, but my guess is that my players will not care for it. They have surprised me before, though.
I will definitely use it for our home games of UNO and Phase 10, where small (or old) hands and fingers can have trouble shuffling big card decks.
I love the compact size. Much, much smaller than other card shufflers you see on the market.
My poker size Desjgn cards work fine, but my bridge size Desjgn cards didn't work at all. The machine just didn't feed the cards at all for some reason.
Also, it's definitely louder than I would prefer. Probably not a big deal considering there will be table chatter to cover up the sound.
I will see how it works for my next home game, but my guess is that my players will not care for it. They have surprised me before, though.
I will definitely use it for our home games of UNO and Phase 10, where small (or old) hands and fingers can have trouble shuffling big card decks.
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markleteenie
4 of a Kind
I watched the videos and that is louder than I expected.
I don't like at the end of the reverse riffle, you have to gather up the cards and it exposes both bottom cards.
It also seems like it's too much work to gather and then run the process multiple times.
Does it always reverse riffle 1 right then 1 left? Because that's not actually a good random shuffle either.
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I think it's pretty easy to pick up one side of cards, combine them with the other side, and re-load without exposing the bottom cards. I did it many times with this exact thing in mind. And the last time you do it, just toss a cut card in the tray before you hit the "shuffle" button, and the bottom card will be covered when you pick it up.
I tried watching closely to see if it's exactly 1 right then 1 left. I don't think that does exactly that (i.e. it's somewhat random), but maybe a slow-motion video would be the best way to confirm that. Or a very detailed analysis of a pre-shuffled deck and review of a post-shuffled deck.
Sparkynutz
Flush
Looks 3d printed.
How complex is it?
Something I could make perhaps?
How complex is it?
Something I could make perhaps?
RadicusScout
Flush
That's what I was thinking. Maybe run the experiment 5 times to get a directional analysis of how it shuffles.
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It's not 3D printed. The shell isn't overly complex, but I haven't broken open the case to see how it works. It weighs about 13 ounces (almost the same as a half-rack of my CPC chips).
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I ran the experiment once, and it was very close to 1 right, 1 left. But when I ran it 5+ times - as suggested - the cards were very well shuffled. That was starting with an unshuffled deck. Honestly, you could probably run it 3 times and the deck would look well shuffled.
One additional thing you could do that I would THINK would help, is to put the left side on top after the first shuffle, then put the right side on top after the 2nd shuffle, etc.
I do think this will be a big hit with my kids and parents, but I doubt if it ends up staying on the poker table for long. We'll see.
Sparkynutz
Flush
The video on the website really looked like the parts were 3d printed
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The base of the machine has all of the weight. There's definitely some metal in there. And the shell is way smoother than any 3D printed item I have seen.
Sparkynutz
Flush
Maybe just the prototypes in the videos were?
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OK, this thing is growing on me. I've done a number of 5x shuffles now, and it definitely randomizes the cards well. It's probably overpriced, but I do like it.
Here are some better close-up pictures of the plastic case @Sparkynutz
Here are some better close-up pictures of the plastic case @Sparkynutz
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The only problem that I have with the design is the notches that are cut out of the "wing trays" that fold out from the base are too close to the base. These notches are there so that you can pick up the cards easier. I realize that the notches allow the wing trays to fold into the base and give it a clean look. But if the notches were in the middle of the wing trays, picking up the cards would be so much easier.
The button on the left runs long enough to shuffle a single deck of cards. The button on the right runs long enough to shuffle two decks.
The button on the left runs long enough to shuffle a single deck of cards. The button on the right runs long enough to shuffle two decks.
Can you take a video of it in action?
How fast were you able to restack the deck and run it through the 5x shuffles?
How fast were you able to restack the deck and run it through the 5x shuffles?
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I’ll see if I can do this over the weekend.
dmoney
Full House
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See if this works. I don’t upload many videos.
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I know, I know ... I should be in television production. You're not the first to think that.
Anyway, this thing takes basically one minute to run five shuffles.
Anyway, this thing takes basically one minute to run five shuffles.
Little loud but I guess not bad. With practice it can be done fairly fast.
Big negative that it won’t handle bridge cards.
Big negative that it won’t handle bridge cards.
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I agree about the bridge cards. It just didn’t spit them out the sides for some reason. Very disappointing.Little loud but I guess not bad. With practice it can be done fairly fast.
Big negative that it won’t handle bridge cards.
But overall, it does the trick.
Would think of maybe trying one but the 2 games I would need it for, poker & cribbage, I only use Bridge size cards.
Maybe the guy could design trays/mechanism to handle bridge size cards. Would probably just increase his price though.
Price is the range for what I would ever want to spend on a shuffler. Still think having people learn to shuffle properly is better but I know some that can’t due to physical/disability.
Maybe the guy could design trays/mechanism to handle bridge size cards. Would probably just increase his price though.
Price is the range for what I would ever want to spend on a shuffler. Still think having people learn to shuffle properly is better but I know some that can’t due to physical/disability.
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