Lodge Poker Room - Austin Texas - Raided this morning by TABC (7 Viewers)

Palace Poker too, I had plans to visit that spot this year.
Palace poker is hosting the rungood tournament series starting tomorrow. Still on as far as I’ve heard.

And the room…I went for a deuce game last week. It’s a nice room. Really upscale vibes. Probably significant buildout costs.
 
Palace poker is hosting the rungood tournament series starting tomorrow. Still on as far as I’ve heard.

And the room…I went for a deuce game last week. It’s a nice room. Really upscale vibes. Probably significant buildout costs.
If you come down to Palace, hit me up, it's a short drive away and a fun room.
 
If you come down to Palace, hit me up, it's a short drive away and a fun room.
Playing the $250 tourney tonight. Hope to see you

Trying/hoping/manifesting to see if I can sneak away Wednesday afternoon 3/26 for TORSE but dunno. Starts at 10 AM but reg usually 3-4 hrs.
 
When we started this journey, there were no guarantees—only belief, grit, and a shared commitment to build something meaningful. Through the early challenges, we found our footing together. We built relationships, earned trust, and created a place that was more than just a business. It became a community—because of you.

Each of you played a role in bringing that vision to life. From the front desk to the porters, dealers, managers, and production team—every detail, every interaction, every long day and late night added up to something truly special. You made this place what it was. Not the building, not the brand—you.

That’s why it’s so painful to say that The Lodge Round Rock location will need to shut its doors for the foreseeable future. While no charges have been brought, and we maintain that the club has always operated with the utmost integrity and within the laws of Texas, the Williamson County District Attorney’s office has made clear to our attorneys that they believe The Lodge’s current business model does not comply with Texas law. For this reason, we cannot re-open. Doing so would run the risk that authorities might once again raid The Lodge, seize more cash and assets, and potentially make arrests. Because we have not been given any indication of when the investigation will conclude, we have no other viable path forward at this time. As a result, we are forced to make the incredibly difficult decision to let our entire staff go. We hope you know just how valued each of you are, and as we hope for a favorable outcome, should we be able to once again open our doors, our plan would be to welcome you back with open arms.

There are no words that fully capture how much this hurts—not just as a business decision, but on a human level. I am deeply grateful for everything you’ve given, and I will carry that with me always. You didn’t just show up to work—you built something that mattered.

As we now turn to the difficult task of determining what comes next, please know that each of you has my respect, my appreciation, and my sincere thanks. I hope you take pride in what we created together, because it was real, and it was special.

I will miss all of you more than I can say.

With a heavy heart,
Jason Levin
 
This is in Williamson county too. Travis county is the one where Austin is, Williamson is a north of Travis and has always been tougher.
 
There is some good news here.

The offended jurisdiction appears to be Williamson County. Not the state AG and not other district attorneys from large urban areas. The damage is limited at the moment anyway.

The Lodge is unlikely to fight this to a legal conclusion in a trial due to costs and the risk of incarceration. Some sort of coercive plea bargain will happen. So there will not be a jury finding this form of for-profit poker is illegal.

We will need to wait and see but it seems like this is a local problem rather than a problem for every card house in Texas.

Can't feel too sorry for the owners of the Lodge. Williamson County has a reputation for taking a Conservative, more authoritarian approach to criminality. They went into the bear den knowing there was an outsized legal risk. -=- DrStrange
 
Quite honestly, I'm not terribly surprised this happened and am actually very surprised it took this long.

I'm taming my comments here as they would start to tiptoe into territory that's better served in the politics subforum, but I also don't discuss politics in general as nobody wins those arguments. I'll try to keep these thoughts as apolitical as I can, but unfortunately they might lean that way, and for that I apologize.


This is a case where the owners of the Lodge (and every other cardroom like these in Texas or elsewhere) knew they are walking on a legal tightrope, or better example a slackline, with respect to what they are allowed to legally do in their respective jurisdictions. One magistrate or constable who is willing to 'look the other way' for whatever reason are they only reason they were open at all. There are sufficient people in power who see gaming of any form as evil or bad for society and will do whatever they can to stop it.

The ownership at the Lodge chose to walk that slackline. They understood the technicalities of the rules of law in their particular location and made it work, and work well, for quite a while.

To make that location more attractive to their user-base, they offered additional benefits that others either did not or were unwilling to offer.

That drew additional attention to their operation, positive and negative.

In what appears to be a mis-step on their part, intentional or otherwise, they slipped on the slackline. Maybe not even a mis-step. Maybe it was a case where the 'wrong' person happened to be looking at that moment and that was all it took.


When one treads the fine-line of what is legal or acceptable in the location where they happen to be and a mis-step happens, you're going to fall off the line. What might be prefectly accptable in one place is completely out of line in another.


Is this unfortunate? Absolutely. Doug Polk and the ownership at the Lodge were providing something to a user-group (poker players) that the state and legislature are unwilling to allow (a means by which to play poker that's not a home-game).

Is there anything wrong with this (playing poker)? It will always depend on who you ask. For those of us here in this forum, I seriously doubt anyone here will say it's an issue or a problem, ethically or morally. The bigger issue is there are enough people outside this forum who do, and they are able put people in a position of power to enforce their sense of ethics and morality on others.



I'm disappointed that this is what has happened to the Lodge, but I'm also very surprised it took this long for the place to get shut down. I'm afraid it's not going to take too long until other locations either close voluntarily or get shut down for a 'violation' that has nothing to do with poker or card games, but are sufficient to force ownership to shut the doors.


Until there is a uniform and legal means for poker to be played in a public location without interference, this story will continue to be replayed. Someone in Texas tried the experiment of doing so on the thin line of "legality", and one little bump was enough to upset the whole train. Unfortunately, this won't help the cause of those of us who want to see regular and routine legal poker in this country. Those who don't want to see that happen want that more than those who do.



[As an aside, I feel like I've seen this story play out before. Well over a decade ago, maybe a decade and a half now, the only poker games that were allowed in the casinos in Arizona by the tribal gaming commissions(s) were limit games. I cut my teeth on 2/4 and 3/6 limit hold'em and the local tribal casinos and still enjoy those games and at that level. However, at the peak of the poker boom, everyone wanted to play no-limit like they saw on TV. There was a small group that opened a "club" style poker room only a couple blocks down the street from my office that had something like a $5/day membership fee and ran quite a few tables of different stakes no-limit games.

I don't know what it was but the place never felt terribly inviting to me. A rather bare room, overhead fluorescent lighting with a soda fountain in the corner and vending machine for 'perks'. Despite seeing less "go to the house" than at the tribals, I only played there once and briefly at that. It just didn't feel right.

They remaind open for a few months with a steady flow of traffic in the place, but one day I drove past and saw the lights were off and the place was empty. It turns out they had gotten a little too greedy and started pulling a per-hand rake on top of the 'mebership fee". The gaming commission had been sending folks in there routinely but also on the down-low to make sure things were still above board, but once the rake started being taken by the house, it was game over at that point.

That location now sells discount furniture aimed at students at the University a few miles down the road.]


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Quite honestly, I'm not terribly surprised this happened and am actually very surprised it took this long.

I'm taming my comments here as they would start to tiptoe into territory that's better served in the politics subforum, but I also don't discuss politics in general as nobody wins those arguments. I'll try to keep these thoughts as apolitical as I can, but unfortunately they might lean that way, and for that I apologize.


This is a case where the owners of the Lodge (and every other cardroom like these in Texas or elsewhere) knew they are walking on a legal tightrope, or better example a slackline, with respect to what they are allowed to legally do in their respective jurisdictions. One magistrate or constable who is willing to 'look the other way' for whatever reason are they only reason they were open at all. There are sufficient people in power who see gaming of any form as evil or bad for society and will do whatever they can to stop it.

The ownership at the Lodge chose to walk that slackline. They understood the technicalities of the rules of law in their particular location and made it work, and work well, for quite a while.

To make that location more attractive to their user-base, they offered additional benefits that others either did not or were unwilling to offer.

That drew additional attention to their operation, positive and negative.

In what appears to be a mis-step on their part, intentional or otherwise, they slipped on the slackline. Maybe not even a mis-step. Maybe it was a case where the 'wrong' person happened to be looking at that moment and that was all it took.


When one treads the fine-line of what is legal or acceptable in the location where they happen to be and a mis-step happens, you're going to fall off the line. What might be prefectly accptable in one place is completely out of line in another.


Is this unfortunate? Absolutely. Doug Polk and the ownership at the Lodge were providing something to a user-group (poker players) that the state and legislature are unwilling to allow (a means by which to play poker that's not a home-game).

Is there anything wrong with this (playing poker)? It will always depend on who you ask. For those of us here in this forum, I seriously doubt anyone here will say it's an issue or a problem, ethically or morally. The bigger issue is there are enough people outside this forum who do, and they are able put people in a position of power to enforce their sense of ethics and morality on others.



I'm disappointed that this is what has happened to the Lodge, but I'm also very surprised it took this long for the place to get shut down. I'm afraid it's not going to take too long until other locations either close voluntarily or get shut down for a 'violation' that has nothing to do with poker or card games, but are sufficient to force ownership to shut the doors.


Until there is a uniform and legal means for poker to be played in a public location without interference, this story will continue to be replayed. Someone in Texas tried the experiment of doing so on the thin line of "legality", and one little bump was enough to upset the whole train. Unfortunately, this won't help the cause of those of us who want to see regular and routine legal poker in this country. Those who don't want to see that happen want that more than those who do.



[As an aside, I feel like I've seen this story play out before. Well over a decade ago, maybe a decade and a half now, the only poker games that were allowed in the casinos in Arizona by the tribal gaming commissions(s) were limit games. I cut my teeth on 2/4 and 3/6 limit hold'em and the local tribal casinos and still enjoy those games and at that level. However, at the peak of the poker boom, everyone wanted to play no-limit like they saw on TV. There was a small group that opened a "club" style poker room only a couple blocks down the street from my office that had something like a $5/day membership fee and ran quite a few tables of different stakes no-limit games.

I don't know what it was but the place never felt terribly inviting to me. A rather bare room, overhead fluorescent lighting with a soda fountain in the corner and vending machine for 'perks'. Despite seeing less "go to the house" than at the tribals, I only played there once and briefly at that. It just didn't feel right.

They remaind open for a few months with a steady flow of traffic in the place, but one day I drove past and saw the lights were off and the place was empty. It turns out they had gotten a little too greedy and started pulling a per-hand rake on top of the 'mebership fee". The gaming commission had been sending folks in there routinely but also on the down-low to make sure things were still above board, but once the rake started being taken by the house, it was game over at that point.

That location now sells discount furniture aimed at students at the University a few miles down the road.]


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TLDR?
They fucked up
 
The question is how? What exactly separates The Lodge card rooms from the other well-known rooms in Texas?
1. How well known and popular they were in the most popular city
2. Alcohol on premise even with 18 to get in

They were the bullseye/target. Pigs get fat, hogs get slaughtered. Well said @AlbinoDragon
 
The Lodge operates in Williamson County. These charges do not appear to be brought by the State of Texas, they appear locally sourced. TABC has wildly different rules depending on where you are, who the local officer(s) is(are) and who you are. It should be noted the charges as we know them have nothing to say about underage service or other violation of the rules governing booze in bars and restaurants. I am not a lawyer. It could be liquor violations are implied in the charges.

No other well-known poker club is domiciled in Willaimson county that I am aware of. We have seen similar sorts of legal action in the Dallas area for years. But nowhere else.

As noted above; this is a legal grey area. It isn't an accident that the laws were drafted this way. The locals have wide latitude in how to read the law and how to enforce it. The Lodge in Austin might be the only entity charged. Or the first of several or many.

We will just have to wait and see. -=- DrStrange
 
since the owners are public personalities, who seemingly make a large portion of their income or net worth from viewership, I’d love to see how it ends in regards to their employees.

I hate nothing more than workplaces pulling “we’re a family”. It’s all bullsh*t talk. Is everyone getting 6 months pay and relocation packages? Surely if you’re hiring family members, in a legally gray enterprise, they must’ve built in parachutes for their labor? Investors were told x% was held from operations, overhead, etc., for emergency exit for workforce?

If not, people should be upset.

Morals and ethics aren’t free, but words are.
 
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I have no idea why people are building out poker rooms in TX when the law is so vague and unclear.

(2) no person received any economic benefit other than personal winnings; and

How is charging membership access to a club which, let's be honest, 99.47% of people are paying for just to play poker, not an "economic benefit other than personal winnings"?

Seems like it might legally be an easier sell if your "club" had other entertainment offerings, like a gym, pool hall, basketball court, etc. But when it's only 12 poker tables with a bar and a couple of TVs on the wall, it seems like you're "economically benefiting" off gambling/poker and just asking for trouble.

There are plenty of places that fully welcome poker. Why you'd want to dick around with gray area nonsense (and millions of invested dollars on the line), is beyond me.
 
Even if no charges ever get filed I would presume any money confiscated will be gone. Unless the owners are going to pay back players out their funds it's doubtful the state will release funds determined to be obtained illegally (in violation of existing gray area State & most especially ABC laws).

Looks like everyone got a little too comfortable and became lax on holding everyone/everything to the private club angle restrictions. Yep the laws are vague as hell, enough to make selective enforcement very easy, and everybody that opens/runs a room in Texas knows that upfront..... one big gambol....

Feel bad for the employees.... the owners will survive with a little tarnished rep but they made their bag.

And it's only a matter of time til' it happens again.
 
I have no idea why people are building out poker rooms in TX when the law is so vague and unclear.



How is charging membership access to a club which, let's be honest, 99.47% of people are paying for just to play poker, not an "economic benefit other than personal winnings"?

Seems like it might legally be an easier sell if your "club" had other entertainment offerings, like a gym, pool hall, basketball court, etc. But when it's only 12 poker tables with a bar and a couple of TVs on the wall, it seems like you're "economically benefiting" off gambling/poker and just asking for trouble.

There are plenty of places that fully welcome poker. Why you'd want to dick around with gray area nonsense (and millions of invested dollars on the line), is beyond me.
They can’t afford to move into a new house in a friendlier place
 

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