Is Quality Control a common problem? Or am I choosing the wrong Vendors? (1 Viewer)

I only own one set of chips that aren’t “high end”. I don’t have unlimited funds either but have decided to focus my limited funds on owning a few nicer, unique sets instead of mostly off the shelf run of the mill chips. As always, YMMV
 
My advice is to buy the best chips you can afford (or can't afford), even if it means doing without while you save up enough coin to invest in a good set that will hold value.

Pretty much nothing new under 50c/chip is generally going to retain its value, but that doesn't mean you have to shell out $5/chip or even $1/chip to get a quality product that will maintain resale value. Cheap plastics tend to lose about 1/2 value the moment they leave the vendor (if you can resell them at all), and even china clays lose 25% of their value (or more) after purchase. So if buying any of those, the smartest option is to do so on the used chip market, where the depreciation has already occurred (instead of you taking the hit). But there are several options for decent chips that typically retain value and are reasonably affordable for people with the patience needed to save a little bit prior to purchasing something:
  • used clay chips -- many used clay chips (mostly solids) can be purchased for 30c-50c each
  • used ceramics -- often available for 30c-50c each, even used real casino chips
For new chips, several of today's ceramics are a decent and affordable option (~ 60c/chip) that will lose a little value, but not too much (pending which stock design is chosen). Ceramic hybrid chips offer one of the best performance/cost/value retention combinations available today (60c-75c per chip). And Gemaco clays can be purchased for under $1/chip new, and often for less than $1/chip if used.

All of those chip options will hold their value well, so that after you've saved up even more funds, they can be liquidated giving you the capital needed to invest in something really nice.

I wish someone had explained all this when I first started, and I could have avoided buying seven relatively worthless sets (cheap no-denom slugged plastics, cheap denominated slugged plastics, better slugged chips, non-slugged plastics, better non-slugged plastics, cheap ceramics, and china clays) before I finally figured it out on my own. I sold four of the sets for a loss, have offers for pennies on the dollar for two others, and can't even give away the last set.... and that's all money down the drain I'll never get back.

But I've never taken a loss on a high-end chip purchase (not to say it couldn't happen, but it's rare).... it's just a matter of getting the initial capital together for the first time purchase. It's totally worth it to do so, so save up and get the better stuff (which you can later sell to get other good stuff, if desired). You'll be happier long term, and save money while doing it.

The key to high-end chip ownership happiness is viewing it as a lease arrangement, not a purchase decision. Take care of your chips, and they'll take care of you.
 
Ditto with what BGinGa said. Sage advice indeed.

I'm not a dedicated chipper like all many of the people on this forum (I only have 2 sets and working on a 3rd and 'likely' final set) but I'm glad I invested in good 'clay' chips. My current sets are all casino originals. Nothing really compares to real casino or casino quality chips such as Paulsons or CPCs. They bring a level of quality and ambience to your game that you won't get with ubiquitous plastic chips.

If you have the opportunity to participate in one of Jim Shaffer's Chiproom sale for retired real casino chips, prices per chip can be reasonable, relatively speaking. Although, you should also be aware that a typical Chiproom sale can be daunting if you have never experienced one. Once the sale goes live, it is nothing short of a feeding frenzy among the chippers here and chips get sold off very quickly indeed. So you have to be on your A-game as you bang in your order and make it to the Paypal Checkout page. But I did really well on my first and only Chiproom sale and that's how I acquired my first set of Paulsons.
 
My purpose with chips is to play poker. I don't collect sets but I have been collecting single chips for about 20 years. I have two sets of China Clays for poker, Championship Poker Series (CPS) chips for tournaments and Pharaohs for my cash game. I have owned Majestics as well (Didn't like the dark labels). I have enjoyed the china clays and the fit my needs well. To me, they feel like used Paulson's and the quality of mine have been good.

I have seen Paulson's go for thousands and thousands of dollars here and there's even a small set for sale right now at $12 a chip. Insane in my opinion but it's a free market. I could never put a set I paid that much for on the felt! As BGinGA said, it's rare to take a loss on high end chips. If you find a good deal they will appreciate in value. A lot of folks on here build a set a little at a time to ease the financial burden and that's fun in my opinion.

My players wouldn't know Paulson's from CC's and mostly couldn't care less about what chips I use.

All that being said, Welcome!
 
So long-term, your options are playing with really nice chips for free (and changing them out for new ones whenever you like, again for no long-term cost), or playing with cheap chips that end up costing you money to use. No-brainer decision, imo.

I agree with this sentiment with the caveat that it's only true if you are located in the US. There are costs (customs, shipping, etc) if you are not in the US, and they can be significant.
 
@stevecronin , if you haven't samples some of the better ceramics, you owe it to yourself to try them. While they are not looked upon as favourably as true "clay" chips (TRK, BCC, ASM/CPC and Paulson), they are a great option. I wasn't a fan of ceramics (had only sampled the Nile Club, Scroll, and an assortment of Sun-Fly non-hybrid), but then got a sample of Chipcos. I have a set of Chipcos now for both tournament and cash, and I can't see selling the tourney set. I'm toying with the idea of replacing the cash set with an ABC set.

I also have a BCC set, and if I have to sell for some reason, I will likely sell the BCC's first (sacriledge, I know).

If you haven't tried them yet, I would suggest
- getting samples of the SunFly hybrid GB that @Geremie is running.
- getting ABC samples. I believe both "Dia de los Muertos" from brpokerpro.com and the Nevada Jack Saloon Series from www.customizedpokerchips.com are on ABC blanks. You can also get a sample mix from www.abcgiftsandawards.com. Even if you don't like the designs, it would give you an idea of the sound and feel of the chips.

Chipcos are, unfortunately, no longer available, and the other vendor (GOCC) that made a chip very close (if not identical) to them have been difficult to contact in recent months.
 
The chiproom is having a sale next Sunday. Looks like there’s some cheap paulsons to be had. That’s how I got my first set. :)
 

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