IM plastic chips: Matsui, BJ, BG, and cheap Monte Carlos

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What's the difference between the various IM plastic chips? Feel, weight, stickiness, slippery-ness, quality etc? I searched but haven't found comparisons of the various ones.

One home game I sometimes go to use the cheap Monte Carlo ones like these https://www.apachepokerchips.com/product/monte-carlo-poker-chips/

I hate the Monte Carlos. They are way too heavy, don't stack well, don't sound well, etc. But tell me why Matsui/BJ/BG's are better? Basically are real IM casino chips better than the home IM chips, and in what way? And why are Matsui's better or worse than other casino IM plastic chips from Bud Jones, BG?
 

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I thought all Matsui plastic chips were light, slippery garbage. Every sample I ever had fit that description.

Then I got a sample of the Matsui nylon heavyweight Horseshoe Tourney chips. Best plastic chips ever.

Plastic chips really are a personal preference. Even Bud Jones lovers will argue about which Bud Jones version chips are the best.
 

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The bjs and matsuis are definatley better than those monte Carlos.

Some of them are pretty slippery though. Most of them are around 10g atleast.

My favorite among them are the cics. I have a matsui cic set and a small heads up bud Jones cic set and they both feel/sound good and stack nicely and are not slippery.

Definatley prefer clay though.
 

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Of the chips I've had here - I've had a lot but of course I haven't had them all - the only chips that I've felt like they stack like bricks are:

39mm:
Casablanca brick red 100's

43mm:
Grand Victoria secondary 1000's
Aztar IN secondary 1000's

The above feel really damn good in your hands.
 

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Of the chips I've had here - I've had a lot but of course I haven't had them all - the only chips that I've felt like they stack like bricks are:

39mm:
Casablanca brick red 100's

43mm:
Grand Victoria secondary 1000's
Aztar IN secondary 1000's

The above feel really damn good in your hands.

Good old leaded paulsons. Definatley the best stacking and feeling chips I have come across.

Some of the plastics are pretty nice. In my opinion nothing touches the older thc paulsons though.
 

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The bjs and matsuis are definatley better than those monte Carlos.

Some of them are pretty slippery though. Most of them are around 10g atleast.

My favorite among them are the cics. I have a matsui cic set and a small heads up bud Jones cic set and they both feel/sound good and stack nicely and are not slippery.

Definatley prefer clay though.

Glad to see someone else likes CIC chips. I think they are so underrated.
 

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Stick with clay...forget about plastic chips, unless you want the amazing PS chips that are great for a collector...but again, stick with clay :ROFL: :ROFLMAO: :D :nailbite:

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What's the difference between the various IM plastic chips? Feel, weight, stickiness, slippery-ness, quality etc? I searched but haven't found comparisons of the various ones.

One home game I sometimes go to use the cheap Monte Carlo ones like these https://www.apachepokerchips.com/product/monte-carlo-poker-chips/

I hate the Monte Carlos. They are way too heavy, don't stack well, don't sound well, etc. But tell me why Matsui/BJ/BG's are better? Basically are real IM casino chips better than the home IM chips, and in what way? And why are Matsui's better or worse than other casino IM plastic chips from Bud Jones, BG?
High-end plastics like Abiatti, B&G, Bud Jones, and Matsui differ from cheap plastic chips (most made in China) in several ways:

-- the molds used for production are higher-quality materials, made to tighter tolerances, and maintained to be able to repeat those tolerances,
-- the chip materials (plastics and weights, if used) are higher-quality and controlled and maintained to higher quality assurance standards,
-- the finished chips are typically polished and machined to tight tolerances, and
-- they cost a shit-ton for plastic chips, comparatively speaking, for all of the above reasons. More complex manufacturing processes and higher dimensional and material standards cost money.

But they're still plastic chips, with the inherent characteristics of all plastic chips. Even high-end plastics tend to feel like plastic, sound like plastic (or plastic with metal inserts), and are slippery compared to other chip material types (although some plastic chips suffer from suction issues, where they actually stick together during play).

But they usually look great while doing all of those things. :)
 

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The key to a good plastic chip is a softer, almost rubbery material. Not only will they be less slippery, but feel much better as well. With Bud Jones you get that out of the box (I believe also with Abbiati and maybe a few others, but I have no samples of those). Brand new BG chips have a hard finish which I don't like, but once broken in they feel amazing. Matsui chips seem to be a harder material, but I've never handled very used ones. Weight of the chips can vary a lot and different mold versions from the same manufacturer matter as well, so... Get samples? :ROFL: :ROFLMAO:
 
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