Help me choose house mold line up (2 Viewers)

[GreekRedEye]

First of all, credits for photos:

• The Mirage is from chipguide.com (thank you for the work you do!)
• The Dunes is from Spinettis (great selection of chips - go buy some!)
• Rest are my own

Why a House Mold Set? (Besides the obvious answer: they are awesome!)
Lightbulb moment occurred a couple weeks ago. Friends, who never show interest in chips, suddenly lit up at the idea of playing with house mold chips from casinos they recognize, especially if some chips are live. I asked about a set that is all from one casino...much less interest. Mixed set is where it's at and if a mixed house mold gets my friends excited to play, then maybe this is where I should invest.

Re-label?
Over label only. And I'd prefer to minimize the amount of that.

What Chips Do I Already Have?
I own 2 racks of Lucky 21 hot-stamped 5s. I love these and intend to use them as nickels - a barrel a head. Cuz, yes, those are the stakes I play! None of the other chips in quantity yet.

Proposal #1
This is my dream (but unrealistic) lineup. I already have the Lucky 21 chips. I can get the Luxor, Mandalay Bay, and Caesar's. Getting a rack or more of the Cache Creek is probably going to be impossible (or if possible, at a high price).

with the Mirage $3 or Dunes $100 as the $100:

Proposal #2
I am strongly leaning this way. Much more attainable. Cache Creek as or Dunes as $100. I don't think the Sundance $5 works quite as well, but it is still fine and I can get racks. Yes, it is red and the Lucky 21 is pink, but in real life they are distinguishable, even in dim (that pink really fluoresces!). And playing 5c/10c, I don't expect more than a couple $5s on the table as value chips. Also, less over-labeling, particularly if I go with the Dunes $100.

Proposal #3
The Resort World $2 as a nickel looks great and fits progression. The peach color matches the Mandalay Bay perfectly. But 2 strikes against this lineup. Harvesting $2 chips for both the nickel and quarter will get pricey. Also, the grey GN (as much as I love it) blends a bit too much with the $1 in dim light - and they will get a lot of play together.

Proposal #4
This one is also pretty attainable (except for the Flamingo - probably would have to be replaced by Caesar or something else). But I don't really like how it looks. And no nickel in this lineup.

A photo of some of my house molds, so let me know if you want to see more chips side by side (for my benefit or for yours)!

 

[DMack]

I like the first three, but #4 is hard no for my tastes.

 

[GreekRedEye]

I like the first three, but #4 is hard no for my tastes.

Yeah, I was trying to build around the Wynn, because it is relatively easy/cheap to obtain. But I just don't like it. Maybe my bad attitude about it spread to my choices for the other chips in the line up.

If anyone else has suggestions, I'd appreciate it. I'm going to start committing real money to this project tomorrow.

 

[GreekRedEye]

Here is where I am right now. Thanks to @casinochipper22 for the Luxors and Mandalay Bays. Thanks to @CacheCreekCollector for more chips coming in the mail. Thanks to @CHIPnD for the Lucky 21 pinks. And thanks to @BirdCage for inspiring me to go down this road in the first place.vvI am looking for one more rack of Luxor, 1 more rack of Mandalay, 2 to 3 barrels of Caesars, and as many Cache Creek as I can get.

Some questions I'm turning around in my head. I'm looking for opinions!

• Does the Sundance look like a mismatch to you too? Should I stop overthinking and just stick with them or should I ditch them?
• Should I sub in the Lucky 21 as the $5 and just make this a base 25c set?
• Should Luxor be 25c and Mandalay as $1 or reversed?
• Would it be crazy to make the green Caesar my $5 and then the Cache creek my $20? Or leaving Caesar as a $2 and making Cache Creek $10?
• How do I get Cache Creek to work in this (assuming I cannot get enough to make it the $5)?
• Is there a better line up that I'm missing?

Some line up shots showing Luxor in the $1 slot and Lucky 21 in the $5 slot:

 

[casinochipper22]

Some questions I'm turning around in my head. I'm looking for opinions!

• Does the Sundance look like a mismatch to you too? Should I stop overthinking and just stick with them or should I ditch them? no, sundance look sweet. a bit better condition would be the nuts though
• Should I sub in the Lucky 21 as the $5 and just make this a base 25c set? NO, solids should be the lowest fracs, right?
• Should Luxor be 25c and Mandalay as $1 or reversed? i don't think so, because... vegas baby!
• Would it be crazy to make the green Caesar my $5 and then the Cache creek my $20? green $5 seems a little odd. Or leaving Caesar as a $2 and making Cache Creek $10? maybe that would be cool, but that is a lot of denoms
• How do I get Cache Creek to work in this (assuming I cannot get enough to make it the $5)? they would be best as a $5
• Is there a better line up that I'm missing? always. that is why you should build like 10 different housemold sets so you don't miss anything.

 

[casinochipper22]

You could consider Aria $5's as a red $5. A buddy of mine who works their just told me they have some newer $5's in the mix! Then you won't be handcuffed with the availability/condition issues of sundance or cache creeks.

 

[CacheCreekCollector]

Some questions I'm turning around in my head. I'm looking for opinions!

• Does the Sundance look like a mismatch to you too? Should I stop overthinking and just stick with them or should I ditch them?
• Should I sub in the Lucky 21 as the $5 and just make this a base 25c set?
• Should Luxor be 25c and Mandalay as $1 or reversed?
• Would it be crazy to make the green Caesar my $5 and then the Cache creek my $20? Or leaving Caesar as a $2 and making Cache Creek $10?
• How do I get Cache Creek to work in this (assuming I cannot get enough to make it the $5)?
• Is there a better line up that I'm missing?

If you cannot acquire the Cache Creek in a sufficient desired amount then it makes a fine $20 chip. Or even perhaps a $25 chip, if u wanna be bold.

However if you make this a base 25c set and can manage to find at least 4 barrels of Cache Creek $1s, edge spot progression be damned, I would absolutely LOVE to see some relabeled yellow fracs!

(photo cr: @Perthmike)

 

[GreekRedEye]

If you cannot acquire the Cache Creek in a sufficient desired amount then it makes a fine $20 chip. Or even perhaps a $25 chip, if u wanna be bold.

However if you make this a base 25c set and can manage to find at least 4 barrels of Cache Creek $1s, edge spot progression be damned, I would absolutely LOVE to see some relabeled yellow fracs!

(photo cr: @Perthmike)
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Yeah, 4 barrels might be achievable and it would make a beautiful frac. Then I could make the Mandalay or Luxor the $5. As a $20, it is even more achievable as I don't need more than 2 or 3 barrels, so I'm halfway there. But I also love the green Caesar chip. Hmmm...if spot progression be damned, then maybe I make the green chip the frac and the cache creek the $20?

I'll cogitate on it. And maybe a rack of Cache Creek will shake loose in the meantime.

 

[GreekRedEye]

I've mocked up a some label options for fracs.

I like the spot progression better as pink nickel >> Luxor 25c >> Mandalay $1. But I like the original Luxor label as is (and I don't like the Mandalay label). So I'm learning toward relabeling Mandalay 25c and leaving Luxor as $1.

What looks better? Any suggested edits to my new labels?

 

[allforcharity]

The almond Tropicana LV $1 works as a great frac, but good luck getting them in quantity.

 

[GreekRedEye]

The almond Tropicana LV $1 works as a great frac, but good luck getting them in quantity.

I considered them, but decided to go with Mandalays and Luxors. I already have a rack of each.

Here's an idea that just came to me...what if I made my $1 chips a rat rod mix of $1 house molds? Keep my rack of Luxors as a base, add a barrel of Excalibur and 4 Queens and Silvertons and Resorts World. Infill with other $1 white house mold chips from wherever till I have 2 racks. I can even add an old, white Tropicana if I can find one. Even the occasional THC white $1 if it is really cool. Is that crazy?

 

[allforcharity]

Is that crazy?

You're asking *us* this?

 

[ChipFinderSK]

what if I made my $1 chips a rat rod mix of $1 house molds? Is that crazy?

Crazy like a fox! If you do it, make sure you get a 2-tone Four Queens chip

 

[GreekRedEye]

Crazy like a fox! If you do it, make sure you get a 2-tone Four Queens chip

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That is beautiful. This could be a great, almost never ending project as I continue to add new (or rather new to the set) chips years, slowly replacing the bulk chips (e.g. Luxors) one at a time. So many options and ways to get representation from various casinos into the set that I could not otherwise.

That quarter Four Queens with white + pink is gorgeous! But it would dirty stack with my nickels. So, I'd have to pass. I'll admire from a distance.

 

[GreekRedEye]

Working on graphics for Cache Creek $5 over label. I don't know what came over me and decided to take inspiration from the old Circus Circus $5.00 label.

I don't know if I love it or hate it.

 

[GreekRedEye]

Okay, thanks to @JRald07 I'm now the proud owner of racks of $5 Stardusts. I like the look of the Cache Creek more...but...Stardust!


I am losing the Lucky 21 nickels. What do you guys think of the below line up?

Here is another approach. The detroit peach I think is a match for the spots on the Mandalay and the Stardust. But then I'd have to go and acquire detroit fracs and I'd lose the Luxors.

And yet one more approach:

Here's what I have to work with:

• 220 Mandalays (most sharp enough to over label)
• 120 Luxors (most sharp enough to over label) + 80 rat rod $1 white house molds from various casinos
• 260 cache creek (probably 70% can over label and rest too worn)
• 400 Stardust
• 100 Caesars relabeled and 60 original labels
• 5 of the Dunes

 

[GreekRedEye]

I have had fun with Cache Creeks as 5c and Mandalay Bay as 25c. But my new MGM Detroit quarters are demanding a new lineup.

(To my eye, the best color and spot progression is Stardust -> Detroit -> Mandalay -> Cache, but relabeling the Stardust as nickels would be insanity!).

Here are some goals I have:

• support 5c/10c, 25c/25c, and 25c/50c games
• Use authentic labels where possible
• keep Lucky 21 and Stardust from being on the table together (dirty stacks)
• Also use Cache Creeks as a value chip for separate house mold limit set

My current plan:
Micro stakes: 5c Lucky 21 -> 25c MGM Detroit -> $1 Mandalay -> $2 Caesar (unnecessary but fun value chip!)
Small stakes: 25c MGM Detroit -> $1 Mandalay -> $5 Stardust -> $20 Cache Creek (over label) -> $100 Mirage (over label)

Anyone have another suggestion? I also have another 80 Cache Creek.

I recently discovered @wonderpuddle 's thread on a beautiful Vegas House-mold set. I love the way he ties them together with labels - the colors work so well together! It's tempting me to relabel everything! But, no, really, with live chips I want to avoid relabeling and minimize over-labeling.

So, anyway, photos!

 

[NotRealNameNoSir]

@dizzyChipper these are pretty

 

[dizzyChipper]

@dizzyChipper these are pretty

I wouldn’t normally glom on a thread but my man @GreekRedEye won’t mind vigorous House Mold lineup chat.

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I don’t love chips that have to avoid other chips. Can’t we all just get along?? I try to keep sets that can work well together and/or play a wide range of stakes.

My recommendations for @GreekRedEye since you want to lock Detroit 25c:

25c Detroit locked
$1 White HM $1 locked - you have enough choices!!
$5 SDPM. Labels done and looking awesome.
CC $20 because I know you want that as limit value.

5c is now relabeled mandalay Blue.
And you get to keep Caesar’s at $2 for fun unnecessary denom.

$100 - dunes / mirage $3 overlabel

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If you want less work to do keep cache creek 5c as is. Sell Mandalay Bay blue. Relabel Caesar’s $2 to $20 for limit value chip.

In either scenario you’re dropping red 5c chip and you have one lineup to rule them all!!!

@NotRealNameNoSir

His lineup is amazing!!! But micro easier to build because $25, $100 and higher denoms usually the problem….

Loving the HS HM T5 repurposed to 5c. Good idea and now I must do it too!!

I’d buy or trade with @GreekRedEye the 25c Mandalay Bay as labeled for a 25c HM and sell my rivers des plains.

And any playable amounts of Caesars $2 or CC $1 that can take an overlabel.

I have these on the way but I fear condition will be too bad to overlabel:

Thanks for reading if you made it…

 

[GreekRedEye]

Thanks @dizzyChipper! Some good ideas here!

I had a white Luxor in the line up originally. Looks fantastic with the Lucky 21 T5 (matching radiant reds). But...it just does not work as well with the other chips.

I don’t love chips that have to avoid other chips. Can’t we all just get along??

I know. The Lucky 21s and the Stardusts are too close in color. But the Luckies were a good price and in great condition. Another thing I have considered is getting a rack of roulettes (love that mold and feel it is in the housemold family, kind of, maybe?) as a non-denom chip that could be used as 5c or other value as needed. I think the almonds in this sale might be a match for the Detroit 25c spot, but I don't know without seeing side by side:
https://www.pokerchipforum.com/thre...solid-hot-stamped-roulette-mold-chips.137571/

Sell Mandalay Bay blue.

5c is now relabeled mandalay Blue.

The color references between the Stardust, Mandalay, Detroit, and Mirage are irresistible. And I think the Mandalays are the linch pin...so, they must stay! And I'm thinking of making the house mold limit set both white + blue $1s. So a reason to keep the Mandalays as a $1.

I’d buy or trade with @GreekRedEye the 25c Mandalay Bay as labeled for a 25c HM and sell my rivers des plains.

My Mandalay's don't over label well (say compared to the Cache Creeks that do work well). The original, small label on the Mandalays results in a noticeable ridge under the over-label and the edges want to curl up. Here is a close up shot of what I'm talking about. But if you milled them and re-labeled with good @Gear quality textured labels then I think they would make a fire 25c. I can share the label file with you. I prefer my design (busy as it is) over the original.

 

[GreekRedEye]

Or maybe that lighter spot on the Detroit is mustard? Anyone know?

 

[dizzyChipper]

Hah. I try so hard to avoid sharing colors between adjacent denoms.

Detroit frac
Mb $1
Stardust $5
Black $100
All locked.

Then it’s $20 and 5c split between cc and cp. my vote is cc 5c because it’s already done.

Cp $20 (or $25 if you want to make me happy even though it isn’t as convenient for limit).

Still red 5c are gone.
If you *really* want CC $20 and CP $2 then I’d find a solid roulette as you mentioned. I’d personally want a lavender/ purple because it’s five-ness is high. But sure pull a color out of the 25c.

All I care about is you land on ONE set. As described above your blue $1 and white $1 can all play in that set.

Best!!

—Diz

 

[dizzyChipper]

Thanks @dizzyChipper! Some good ideas here!

I had a white Luxor in the line up originally. Looks fantastic with the Lucky 21 T5 (matching radiant reds). But...it just does not work as well with the other chips.


I know. The Lucky 21s and the Stardusts are too close in color. But the Luckies were a good price and in great condition. Another thing I have considered is getting a rack of roulettes (love that mold and feel it is in the housemold family, kind of, maybe?) as a non-denom chip that could be used as 5c or other value as needed. I think the almonds in this sale might be a match for the Detroit 25c spot, but I don't know without seeing side by side:
https://www.pokerchipforum.com/thre...solid-hot-stamped-roulette-mold-chips.137571/



The color references between the Stardust, Mandalay, Detroit, and Mirage are irresistible. And I think the Mandalays are the linch pin...so, they must stay! And I'm thinking of making the house mold limit set both white + blue $1s. So a reason to keep the Mandalays as a $1.


My Mandalay's don't over label well (say compared to the Cache Creeks that do work well). The original, small label on the Mandalays results in a noticeable ridge under the over-label and the edges want to curl up. Here is a close up shot of what I'm talking about. But if you milled them and re-labeled with good @Gear quality textured labels then I think they would make a fire 25c. I can share the label file with you. I prefer my design (busy as it is) over the original.
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Don't you just have to fill the recess with a color match ring?

Like this Boulder Station $1 THC overlabel:

 

[GreekRedEye]

Don't you just have to fill the recess with a color match ring?

It's not the gap between the label and the ring recess edge that is the issue. The label underneath has worn differently than the clay and it is noticeable in person.

Maybe having the label go to the edge of the recess might help with the curling up penchant. I had assumed the uneven surface was causing that but now I am not sure.

At this point, I think I am set on removing the 25c labels. I've got the Detroits...who could ask for a better looking quarter?

 

[GreekRedEye]

Anyone with a Detroit frac and a Paulson color set out there who can confirm what the light spot on the Detroit frac is?

 

[miandsh2000]

Crazy like a fox! If you do it, make sure you get a 2-tone Four Queens chip

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https://www.pokerchipforum.com/threads/purchase-on-hold-samples-incoming.23838/#post-439108

 

[miandsh2000]

Crazy like a fox! If you do it, make sure you get a 2-tone Four Queens chip

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https://www.pokerchipforum.com/threads/purchase-on-hold-samples-incoming.23838/#post-439108

 

[GreekRedEye]

Those are beautiful. One of the racks for my house mold limit set is a rat rod rack of white $1s, mostly Atlantic City but Vegas and other places as well. But not with the consistent bright white and sharp edges you have. Well done!

 

[dizzyChipper]

Ooh ooh. I want to play.

Rad rod $1. Some live. Some obsolete. Some classic. All Paulson white T5/$1 non denom welcome.

Looking to get to two racks. Interested in your random extras.

 

[dizzyChipper]

https://www.pokerchipforum.com/threads/purchase-on-hold-samples-incoming.23838/#post-439108

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Just noticed that these are all 418. Super clean…