Help in choosing a quantity for the poker case (1 Viewer)

[Fadi21]

Hello friends
My name is Guy, I'm in love with poker and I started trading poker equipment on Amazon

I would appreciate your help in choosing the most correct default quantity for the customers

Currently my product with the following default
1$ - 100pcs
5$ - 100pcs
25$ - 100pcs
100$ - 100pcs
500$ - 50pcs
1000$ - 50 pcs
link
I'm thinking of changing to :

1$ - 150pcs
5$ - 150pcs
25$ - 100pcs
100$ - 50pcs
500$ - 25pcs
1000$ - 25 pcs


I would love to know what you think and of course for new suggestions

The goal is to try to succeed in bringing the most universal amount that will suit most people who play poker

Thank you very much everyone

 

[LeLe]

Either breakdown is efficient as u are unlikely to use $1k chip in a $1/$2 cash game or use $1 / $5 in a T25 T100 tournament set

You will need 2 different breakdown, one build for Cash the other build for Tourney

https://docs.google.com/presentatio...CxPxCk4t2iMOW68c94QQaEgquQ/present?slide=id.p

Above tool is done by @BSteck and is very reliable to your needs

 

[Fadi21]

Thank you for your response, at the moment there is no option to divide into 2 different sets and you have to choose one option that will be able to satisfy as many people as possible

 

[Colquhoun]

For a cash set on Amazon, I’m not seeing too many people needing $500 and $1,000 chips for a home game.
A set with 25c chips would be needed more, I expect.

 

[Fadi21]

For a cash set on Amazon, I’m not seeing too many people needing $500 and $1,000 chips for a home game.
A set with 25c chips would be needed more, I expect.

I think people buy the sets for both tournament and cash games.
Most sellers on Amazon put the second option I listed..
If you still had to choose between the two, which do you think is the most suitable?

 

[Natskule]

I don't care for either.

I'd go:

100 quarters
175 $1
150 $5
75 $25

Makes a cash set and a playable T0.25 tournament set.

 

[mipevi]

My name is Guy, I'm in love with poker

I would appreciate your help in choosing the most correct default quantity for the customers

Since there isn’t a frac option, I’m targeting the cash game use more towards $1/2 than $1/1. Tourney use can be T25 based or T5 based for deep stacks.

1$ - 100pcs
5$ - 150pcs
25$ - 100pcs
100$ - 100pcs
500$ - 25pcs
1000$ - 25 pcs

Good luck!

 

[Eriks]

I think people buy the sets for both tournament and cash games.

We do but we buy different sets. Trying to merge both into a 500 chip set will make it work suboptimally for both formats. All you need to make a great one table tourney set is 400 chips, while a good cash set requires at least 600-700 chips and does not need 6 different denominations.

Most people (outside of this forum) will buy whatever standard 500 piece set that’s available, not because that’s what they need, but because they assume that the people who sell them know what they’re doing.

 

[Machine]

Both versions are a waste of money, unless you buy 2 of the same set. Neither set will support a bank properly, you'll about 600 chips as previously stated, and most cash games that would use a COTS set, won't use 100s, 500s, or 1ks. I would go with the second option if I were to try to sell on Amazon.

If had received one of these sets as a gift, I would prefer the second on with the 150 x 1s, 5s..., so that I could buy a second one and have a playable set for a cash game. However if I know that going in, I would likely look for a better quality chip knowing that my budget is going to be 700, and I wouldn't have to feel like I wasted money because I'd never use 90% of the 100s, and none of the 500s and or 1ks

I would like to thank you for not using 'Casino Weight' or 'Clay' in your summaries, those phrases are very cringe.

If you could do more customizing of the sets, it would be better to have 1 denomination that has an 'X' on it,

100 x 'X'
200 x 1
300 x 5

(This set would sell like hot cakes imo)

 

[ekricket]

1$ - 150pcs
5$ - 150pcs
25$ - 100pcs
100$ - 50pcs
500$ - 25pcs
1000$ - 25 pcs

You have $25,000 in $1000’s, “just in case”. I played in a game recently that had close to your breakdown. We were constantly making change, like every hand. You’d be better off like this, and get a frac for the last hundred chips. But you do you. The only reason we got $25’s in play was because there weren’t enough of the $1 and $5.

1$ - 200
5$ - 200
25$ - 80
100$ - 20
500$ - 0
1000$ - 0

 

[MrBoosh]

Anyone who would play stakes to use all those high denomination chips would probably have no interest in purchasing this set. Anyone playing lower stakes would be wasting their money purchasing this set with all the higher denoms that they will never use. Your target audience is probably someone playing lower stakes. I would loose the higher denoms and build the set for a $1/$2 or $2/$5 cash game. Or even better, replace the higher denoms with .25 cent quarters. If you build your set properly to include useful denominations that will actually be used, you can market that fact when you are selling them. Say "Buy our set because it is actually build with players in mind!" Instead of putting out another waste of money set with a worthless combo of denominations. I think you would sell a lot more if you did this properly like everyone is suggesting to you. Otherwise you are giving up extra sales that you could have had if you would have built a usable set.

 

[Fadi21]

Thanks a lot everyone for the help... I think I'll go with @mipevi recommendation

1$ - 100pcs
5$ - 150pcs
25$ - 100pcs
100$ - 100pcs
500$ - 25pcs
1000$ - 25 pcs

bonus :
5 pcs - 5000 43mm
5 pcs - 25,000 43 mm

 

[ngmcs8203]

I think people buy the sets for both tournament and cash games.
Most sellers on Amazon put the second option I listed..
If you still had to choose between the two, which do you think is the most suitable?

Neither. Both options are not good. I’d rather play a tournament with a proper cash set than buy those breakdowns.

 

[ngmcs8203]

Thanks a lot everyone for the help... I think I'll go with @mipevi recommendation

bonus :
5 pcs - 5000 43mm
5 pcs - 25,000 43 mm

Why? They will get no use.

 

[Fadi21]

Neither. Both options are not good. I’d rather play a tournament with a proper cash set than buy those breakdowns.

The facts are tha all pker cases on Amazon are like those breakdowns and sell a lot of quantities! Instead of saying they are not good, I would love to know how
How would you arrange the quantities to make it convenient for the players?

 

[ngmcs8203]

The facts are tha all pker cases on Amazon are like those breakdowns and sell a lot of quantities! Instead of saying they are not good, I would love to know how
How would you arrange the quantities to make it convenient for the players?

That doesn’t make them good. We all bought those crappy setups when we didn’t know any better. We have told you how to arrange them. You refuse to listen. Do what everyone else does or do something that sets you apart. Up to you.

 

[Natskule]

The facts are tha all pker cases on Amazon are like those breakdowns and sell a lot of quantities! Instead of saying they are not good, I would love to know how
How would you arrange the quantities to make it convenient for the players?

Yeah and all those breakdowns suck too. The breakdowns of most cheap poker chip sets is terrible, it's why you see so many "every chip is a $x" with cheap chips.

Several folks have given usable breakdowns for 500 chips.

 

[Fadi21]

That doesn’t make them good. We all bought those crappy setups when we didn’t know any better. We have told you how to arrange them. You refuse to listen. Do what everyone else does or do something that sets you apart. Up to you.

On the contrary bro, I really listen to you and want to do the best for the customers.. How do you recommend arranging the kit?
I would appreciate it if you could write down which quantities are correct for a tournament set and which quantities are correct for a cash set (maybe I will take out 2 different products)

 

[ngmcs8203]

On the contrary bro, I really listen to you and want to do the best for the customers.. How do you recommend arranging the kit?
I would appreciate it if you could write down which quantities are correct for a tournament set and which quantities are correct for a cash set (maybe I will take out 2 different products)

You will need 2 different breakdown, one build for Cash the other build for Tourney

https://docs.google.com/presentatio...CxPxCk4t2iMOW68c94QQaEgquQ/present?slide=id.p

Above tool is done by @BSteck and is very reliable to your needs

You have $25,000 in $1000’s, “just in case”. I played in a game recently that had close to your breakdown. We were constantly making change, like every hand. You’d be better off like this, and get a frac for the last hundred chips.

1$ - 200
5$ - 200
25$ - 80
100$ - 20
500$ - 0
1000$ - 0

 

[Sparkynutz]

On the contrary bro, I really listen to you and want to do the best for the customers.. How do you recommend arranging the kit?
I would appreciate it if you could write down which quantities are correct for a tournament set and which quantities are correct for a cash set (maybe I will take out 2 different products)

125x 25c
150x $1
175x $5
50x $20
bonus 25x $100 or take 25 away from the 25c chips.

That should fit most low stakes cash players which is who would probably be playing with a set like this.

Next would be
T25 or T100 Set Something like this or similar-

T25 x175
T100 x150
T500 x100
T1k x50
T5k x25

 

[iLogik]

As someone who is new to poker (1 year) lol I bought an Amazon set “sluggers” for 150$ nd sold it on offer up for 20$.
From my experience buying an Amazon set with these denominations and breakdowns is I regret it lol. I assumed the breakdowns were made by and for poker players and from joining this forum and getting a lot of valuable Information, was horribly mistaken. High denoms had no use in cash and low no use in tourny. I couldn’t use for low stakes cash or tourny efficiently.

 

[TX_Golf_N_Poker]

Why not let the customer choose their own breakdown in multiples of 25, assuming that's the way they come from your supplier? No one set is going to satisfy everyone. Especially when, as stated by others above, some will want chips for a cash game, and others for a tournament.

Also, for cash game players, a lot of buyers will want 25 cent chips. And for tournaments, some will want $5000 and even $25,000 and bigger. I'd consider adding those as another option.

 

[Fadi21]

Why not let the customer choose their own breakdown in multiples of 25, assuming that's the way they come from your supplier? No one set is going to satisfy everyone. Especially when, as stated by others above, some will want chips for a cash game, and others for a tournament.

Also, for cash game players, a lot of buyers will want 25 cent chips. And for tournaments, some will want $5000 and even $25,000 and bigger. I'd consider adding those as another option.

You're right and that's what will happen in the future. In addition, what's happening right now is that there are a lot of customers who want a complete set, sometimes for gifts, and that's why I'm trying to put together a set that will fit both the $25 start tournament and the $1/2 cash

You have an idea of the quantities?

 

[Tonystark137]

You're right and that's what will happen in the future. In addition, what's happening right now is that there are a lot of customers who want a complete set, sometimes for gifts, and that's why I'm trying to put together a set that will fit both the $25 start tournament and the $1/2 cash

You have an idea of the quantities?

Is like he is asking for advise and refuse to listen to read all the advise he has been given.

 

[Fadi21]

Is like he is asking for advise and refuse to listen to read all the advise he has been given.

Hahahahaha I read all the advice and wrote it down, I just like to hear some people's opinions before the final decision

Thanks

 

[BGinGA]

I would love to know how would you arrange the quantities to make it convenient for the players?

Sell two entirely different 500-chip sets (four denominations each):

$1 x 200
$5 x 200
$25 x 75
$100 x 25

$25 x 150
$100 x 150
$500 x 75
$1000 x 125

Or a single 1000-chip set (seven different chips):

$1 x 200
$5 x 200
$25 x 150
$100 x 150
$500 x 75
$1000 x 125
ND x 100 (no-denomination, can be used as 25c or $5000)

 

[BGinGA]

I'm trying to put together a set that will fit both the $25 start tournament and the $1/2 cash

That's simply not possible with only 500 chips.

The closest you can get is 700 chips, but it still plays suboptimally for both cash and tournament games:

$1 x 150
$5 x 150
$25 x 125
$100 x 125
$500 x 50
$1000 x 100

 

[CdnBeerLover]

As mentioned above, you will not find a combination that will work well for both cash games and tourney games. They are completely different formats with different needs.

I don't play much cash, but the following 500 chips breakdown has worked well for me for a single table tournament.

T25 x 125
T100 x 125
T500 x 75
T1000 x 100
T5000 x 75

That will cover 10 players for a T10k tournament (starting stack 12 x T25, 12 x T100, 5 x T500, 6 x T1000). T5000 are reserved for colour ups and rebuys. and covers higher starting stacks (e.g. for T20k, add 2 x T5000 to the starting stack). Had the initial set I received as a gift followed this format, I likely would have never discovered PCF.

My suggestion?
Create a decent 500-chip cash breakdown, including fracs. Create a listing for that with denoms of 25c, $1, $5, $20.
Create a decent 500-chip tournament breakdown. Create a separate listing for that with denoms of $25, $100, $500, $1000, $5000. See above for a starting point.

Sell both. The denoms do not overlap (this is key!), so a host could use the same style for both cash and tournament without being concerned about chips migrating from the tournament to a side cash game that starts once players start busting out of the tournament.

Edit: just saw BGinGA's response. Similar idea.

 

[Sparkynutz]

I wonder if majority of the demographic likely to buy your chips would more likely use 25c chips than not when playing cash games?
25c x100
$1 x 100
$5 x 200
$25 x 75
$100 x 25

May fit better

 

[buzzmonkey]

I wonder if majority of the demographic likely to buy your chips would more likely use 25c chips than not when playing cash games?
25c x100
$1 x 100
$5 x 200
$25 x 75
$100 x 25

May fit better

I'd like to say people playing bigger stakes wouldn't buy these, but how many times have you seen a Reel where the guy is playing 10/20 with mass produced cheapos.