Tourney Help for Tournament Set (1 Viewer)

[EventHorizonVII]

I always run a cash game but with winning the giveaway from @Bosco24 I thought a tournament set would be pretty swanky.

Particulars;

• 1 Table (more in the future?!)
• 500 chips to play with
• Rebuys until "some level"

Guess I will have to educate myself on blind structures too? I'd like to allow mediocre players a chance to play most of the night, I mean, if they go full tropic thunder, that is on them.
I'm thinking of doing a quarterly tournament, typical buy-in for cash is $60 but for this, I'm thinking $100+ as a 'big game' for the players I have.

 

[LotsOfChips]

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And congrats on winning the chips! If you find that you absolutely hate them, then I'm your man!

 

[Legend5555]

You could support a T100 base, 20k starting stack, 18 person freeze out (and by extension a single table w/ rebuy, or larger stack freezeout) with 500 chips using the following breakdown:

T100 - 200
T500 - 100
T1000 - 150
T5000 - 50

Starting stacks of 10/4/7/2.

This breakdown takes into account that you must order each chip in groups of 25.

 

[Legend5555]

The structure I use for that breakdown is:

SB/BB/(Traditional Ante)
100/100
100/200
100/300
200/400
300/600
400/800/(100)
600/1200/(100 or 200)
800/1600/(200)
1000/2000/(300)
1500/3000/(400)
2000/4000/(500)
3000/6000/(500 or 1000)
4000/8000/(1000)
6000/12000/(1000 or 2000)
8000/16000/(2000)
10000/20000/(3000)

If you want a bit more play, you can play the first level or 2 at a longer length.

If you use BB Ante, you can repeat 100/100 and start the BB Ante then. Start traditional ante 400/800, repeating that level if you want without and then with an ante.

 

[Jeevansluck]

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@EventHorizonVII , this is wicked advice. You must search what he's written up already...amazing stuff. Don't be afraid to PM him with questions and ideas if what you want for game length etc. Just be patient

 

[Frogzilla]

T100 - 200
T500 - 100
T1000 - 150
T5000 - 50

It will be hard to beat this tourney breakdown for 500 chips, this is perfect

 

[BGinGA]

I always run a cash game but with winning the giveaway from @Bosco24 I thought a tournament set would be pretty swanky.

Particulars;

• 1 Table (more in the future?!)
• 500 chips to play with
• Rebuys until "some level"

Guess I will have to educate myself on blind structures too? I'd like to allow mediocre players a chance to play most of the night, I mean, if they go full tropic thunder, that is on them.
I'm thinking of doing a quarterly tournament, typical buy-in for cash is $60 but for this, I'm thinking $100+ as a 'big game' for the players I have.

You only need 380 chips to run a single table T25-base tournament with T10000 stacks (12/12/5/6/x, 200BB) with either re-buys or optional T15K stacks (300BB):

120 x T25
120 x T100
50 x T500
75 x T1000
15 x T5000
--------------------
380 chips, with sufficient extras for color-ups of the lower denominations.

Rounding those numbers up to meet minimum 25-chip increment purchase requirements puts you at an even 400 chips (and also allows 400BB T20K starting stacks if desired). Use the money saved to purchase some bounty chips and a few decks of decent plastic cards and cut cards.

If wanting to increase the set size to cover two 10-player tables (8/8/4/7 stacks), go with:

160 x T25
160 x T100
80 x T500
140 x T1000
60 x T5000
--------------
600 chips

It will be hard to beat this tourney breakdown for 500 chips, this is perfect

I disagree. I don't recommend using high denomination chips that equal 1/2 of the starting stack size (especially with only 21 other starting chips in play), for smoother tournament flow purposes.

 

[Legend5555]

You only need 380 chips to run a single table T25-base tournament with T10000 stacks (12/12/5/6/x, 200BB) with either re-buys or optional T15K stacks (300BB):

120 x T25
120 x T100
50 x T500
75 x T1000
15 x T5000
--------------------
380 chips, with sufficient extras for color-ups of the lower denominations.

Rounding those numbers up to meet minimum 25-chip increment purchase requirements puts you at an even 400 chips (and also allows 400BB T20K starting stacks if desired). Use the money saved to purchase some bounty chips and a few decks of decent plastic cards and cut cards.

If wanting to increase the set size to cover two 10-player tables (8/8/4/7 stacks), go with:

160 x T25
160 x T100
80 x T500
140 x T1000
60 x T5000
--------------
600 chips



I disagree. I don't recommend using high denomination chips that equal 1/2 of the starting stack size (especially with only 21 other starting chips in play), for smoother tournament flow purposes.

If he is primarily running a single table, then there are more than enough extras such that the two 5k chips aren't half the stack. But this has the added benefit of supporting 2 tables if need be with only 500 chips.

While not necessarily optimal to have two 5k chips to start, it's hardly unplayable. There will just need to be a little more change making at times. It would be nearly unplayable if one chip represented half the stack, which I was forced to do for a 70-120 person bar game back in the day. And even then, it still "worked."

I'm all for larger quantities of chips in starting stacks, but you really can run tournaments on very minimal quantities of chips without much hassle. So if OP wants to stick to 500 chips and possibly support 2 tables, my breakdown will do it.

 

[Legend5555]

If you were to use mine for a single table then I'd use the per person breakdown:

15/7/10/1

 

[Frogzilla]

I disagree. I don't recommend using high denomination chips that equal 1/2 of the starting stack size (especially with only 21 other starting chips in play), for smoother tournament flow purposes.

With legends legendary breakdown, he’s got enough for single table 20/8/14 20k stacks if he wants.

The breakdown actually covers 20 person (your recommended required 600) so it’s still the best 500 breakdown posted in the thread. And lastly, having 50% of start stack in the highest denomination is super common (12/12/5/6 has 60% of start stack in 1k, your 8/8/4/7 has 70%, etc)

 

[Legend5555]

With legends legendary breakdown, he’s got enough for single table 20/8/14 20k stacks if he wants.

The breakdown actually covers 20 person (your recommended required 600) so it’s still the best 500 breakdown posted in the thread. And lastly, having 50% of start stack in the highest denomination is super common (12/12/5/6 has 60% of start stack in 1k, your 8/8/4/7 has 70%, etc)

To be fair, I think BG is more concerned that a mere two chips represents half the stack. His concern is more of a change making and chip economy issue. Which I get, but also think is generally an overblown issue.

Yes, making change is annoying, and it's actually worse in casinos when the dealer is generally responsible for all of it between players because it eats up so much time. But in home tournaments, 2 players can just change each other at any time. Or a person not in the hand can make change from the pot under supervision of all the players. Even with two 5k chips in the starting stack, there are more than enough lower demons to change a single 5k chip when necessary between the players.

As I said, I used to run a bar game with a T100 base at a breakdown of 10/4/2/1 at 8 handed tables. From 6-15 tables. It was awful, but still worked. Only very rarely did I have to actually change down a 5k chip from the bank. I would never do such craziness again. But it showed me just how economical you can really be with tournament breakdowns.

 

[Darson]

Personally I would stick with a T25 base and T10k starting stack format. It's conventional, easy to spread and easy to resell in the future should you wish.

I would suggest the following for a 500 chip set:
120x T25
120x T100
60x T500
120x T1k
60x T5k

This allows you to spread 10 players with 12/12/5/6 starting stacks and up to 15 with 8/8/4/7 with plenty of rebuys.

If you're forced to buy in lots of 25:
125x T25
125x T100
75x T500
125x T1k
50x T5k

If it was me and since the first 500 are free, I'd stump up the extra cash for another 100 chips and get BGinGA's 20 player 600 chip set recommendation above.

 

[CdnBeerLover]

Personally I would stick with a T25 base and T10k starting stack format. It's conventional, easy to spread and easy to resell in the future should you wish.

I would suggest the following for a 500 chip set:
120x T25
120x T100
60x T500
120x T1k
60x T5k

This allows you to spread 10 players with 12/12/5/6 starting stacks and up to 15 with 8/8/4/7 with plenty of rebuys.

If you're forced to buy in lots of 25:
125x T25
125x T100
75x T500
125x T1k
50x T5k

If it was me and since the first 500 are free, I'd stump up the extra cash for another 100 chips and get BGinGA's 20 player 600 chip set recommendation above.

^^^This.

 

[EventHorizonVII]

Love all the feedback I see folks.

Thank you!

 

[EventHorizonVII]

Going with the 600 chips @BGinGA suggested.

Since I am ordering in stacks of 25, does this make sense?

150 x T25
150 x T100
100 x T500
150 x T1000
50 x T5000

 

[Eloe2000]

Going with the 600 chips @BGinGA suggested.

Since I am ordering in stacks of 25, does this make sense?

150 x T25
150 x T100
100 x T500
150 x T1000
50 x T5000

It’s tough with the 25 counts because in order to do a full 20 person tourney you would want stacks of 8/8/4/7 x20. Your breakdown snob would get you there. It would only get you to 19 players. But still that should be good.

 

[BGinGA]

Going with the 600 chips @BGinGA suggested.

Since I am ordering in stacks of 25, does this make sense?

150 x T25
150 x T100
100 x T500
150 x T1000
50 x T5000

Since you need to round to 25-chip quantities, you are essentially turning the 600-chip set into an 18-player set -- two tables of nine players with 20k stacks (8/8/4/7/2) with re-buys. With this in mind, I'd go with:

150 x T25 (6 spares)
150 x T100 (6 spares)
75 x T500 (3 spares)
150 x T1000 (5 spares)
75 x T5000 (2 spares)
---------------
600 chips

 

[EventHorizonVII]

Thank you @BGinGA !