Harvesting from Borgata (1 Viewer)

[RiverAce01]

Since I don't live very far, and with the Boardwalks going under for good and never coming back, I'm not opposed to slowly building a set from real chips.

Anyone ever tried to get chips out of there? Curious how easy or difficult it is. Or any casino in general. If I walked up and put 100 down and asked for 100 singles could I just throw them in a bag and hand the rack back to them will I get resistance? Or do I have to be more stealthy.

Just curious how some of those more experienced around here do it

 

[kk405]

Since I don't live very far, and with the Boardwalks going under for good and never coming back, I'm not opposed to slowly building a set from real chips.

Anyone ever tried to get chips out of there? Curious how easy or difficult it is. Or any casino in general. If I walked up and put 100 down and asked for 100 singles could I just throw them in a bag and hand the rack back to them will I get resistance? Or do I have to be more stealthy.

Just curious how some of those more experienced around here do it

I never understood why this should be a problem at any casino. Just buy a rack from the cage and simply walk out of the poker room. You can even walk into the bathroom with your rack of chips and then dump them in your backpack, or sit at a slot machine, or have a cold beer at the B Bar and dump all the chips in your bag. I wouldn't do that with the $500 or $1K chips, but $1 or $5 chips are a different story.

 

[WedgeRock]

If I walked up and put 100 down and asked for 100 singles could I just throw them in a bag and hand the rack back to them will I get resistance?

Hand the rack back?!?



Buy a rack, take them to an area where you can sort them, return the undesirables to another cage.

The purpose of sorting is to get the best chips out. This is a concern with clay chips, less of a concern with BJ's from the Borgata.

(BJ's from the Borgata... That is a great band name, or the chapter of my memoir...)

Wash, rinse and repeat, but with caution. If you did this once per visit, I doubt you'd raise any suspicion. If you did this six or ten times in one visit, you might get approached.

 

[bentax1978]

Wash, rinse and repeat, but with caution. If you did this once per visit, I doubt you'd raise any suspicion. If you did this six or ten times in one visit, you might get approached.

Probably depends on the casino, and what kind of mood they're in. I bought a few racks of Bellagio $1 chips, sat down at an empty table (it was 9am, there were quite a few empty tables) and picked out the 10-15% of chips I thought were in near mint condition. I then returned the chips and bought a few more racks and and found another barrel or two. Didn't take too long to get what I wanted. Sure they looked at me funny, but I don't think they actually cared. Besides, I offered them a $100 tip to go in the back and sell me a couple of racks of new $1s, but they declined.

 

[WedgeRock]

Um, yes, always ALWAYS tip!

Forgot that part in the writeup, but it helps the staff case less about what you are doing with the chips.

 

[bergs]

Whoa, hold on. What happened to the Boardwalks?!?

 

[mummel]

Whoa, hold on. What happened to the Boardwalks?!?

First rule of Chip Club.........

 

[upNdown]

Have you played with the Borgata chips? Some people like them. Personally I can't stand how they handle. The suction effect of that particular model of Bud Jones chip is really annoying.

 

[bentax1978]

Have you played with the Borgata chips? Some people like them. Personally I can't stand how they handle. The suction effect of that particular model of Bud Jones chip is really annoying.

So you don't like the suction effect of BJs?

To each his own...

 

[MegaTon44]

Whoa, hold on. What happened to the Boardwalks?!?

https://www.pokerchipforum.com/threads/group-buy-cancellations.21765/

 

[Forty4]

So you don't like the suction effect of BJs?

He's just not a fan of that model. Other models are more his flavor.

 

[MillyS]

Just booked my flights for NY/NJ for sept. Hoping to get a trip to AC in there and harvest something from Borgata too.

 

[RiverAce01]

I never understood why this should be a problem at any casino. Just buy a rack from the cage and simply walk out of the poker room. You can even walk into the bathroom with your rack of chips and then dump them in your backpack, or sit at a slot machine, or have a cold beer at the B Bar and dump all the chips in your bag. I wouldn't do that with the $500 or $1K chips, but $1 or $5 chips are a different story.

I agree I don't know why casinos care. You're paying for the chips and they're getting your money. And easily have the chips somewhere in the back to replace them. They actually make great money on the deal.

I'll definitely be doing this at some point. I'll start with a rack of 1s and go from there. And yes I'll return the rack. I've heard too many stories of places being too suspicious if someone leaves with the rack itself

 

[miandsh2000]

Since I don't live very far, and with the Boardwalks going under for good and never coming back, I'm not opposed to slowly building a set from real chips.

Anyone ever tried to get chips out of there? Curious how easy or difficult it is. Or any casino in general. If I walked up and put 100 down and asked for 100 singles could I just throw them in a bag and hand the rack back to them will I get resistance? Or do I have to be more stealthy.

Just curious how some of those more experienced around here do it

never had an issue. and ive never tried to be stealthy about it. usually just sort at home but have done at an empty table if waiting around for a game to open up.

i love live sets because u can just trade them back in when ur done with them.

BTW, if u ever build a mixed NJ set of clays, i have a nice set of $1s i would consider getting rid of.
all AC, all house molds and all same spot pattern. def a conversation piece at games.

 

[upNdown]

I agree I don't know why casinos care. You're paying for the chips and they're getting your money. And easily have the chips somewhere in the back to replace them. They actually make great money on the deal.

I'm not so sure. I don't know about Bud Jones, but it wouldn't shock me to learn that inlaid, spotted Paulsons cost casinos more that a buck apiece. CPC won't get close to that price in any quantity.

 

[kk405]

So you don't like the suction effect of BJs?

To each his own...

Do all BJs have the same suction characteristics of the Borgata chips, or theirs is a special blend?

 

[kk405]

Whoa, hold on. What happened to the Boardwalks?!?

We don't use that word around here anymore

 

[kk405]

Probably depends on the casino, and what kind of mood they're in. I bought a few racks of Bellagio $1 chips, sat down at an empty table (it was 9am, there were quite a few empty tables) and picked out the 10-15% of chips I thought were in near mint condition. I then returned the chips and bought a few more racks and and found another barrel or two. Didn't take too long to get what I wanted. Sure they looked at me funny, but I don't think they actually cared. Besides, I offered them a $100 tip to go in the back and sell me a couple of racks of new $1s, but they declined.

THAT may raise a little of suspicion, only to the point where someone might walk up to you and say WTF. Otherwise it can be done even back in the privacy of your room or in your car with no trouble at all (y) :thumbsup:

 

[bentax1978]

THAT may raise a little of suspicion, only to the point where someone might walk up to you and say WTF. Otherwise it can be done even back in the privacy of your room or in your car with no trouble at all (y) :thumbsup:

I did the vast majority of my sorting in my hotel room. Had almost 2000 chips in there at one point. I just needed a few more barrels the morning I was leaving and it was just easier to do it there. But I agree, for sorting huge number of chips, it's probably best to do it in your hotel room.

 

[RowdyRawhide]

Read this brief thread specifically about Borgata $1 harvesting by the recently elusive @jbutler

https://www.pokerchipforum.com/threads/bud-jones-mixed-casino-in-the-works.10502/

 

[bentax1978]

Read this brief thread specifically about Borgata $1 harvesting by the lately elusive @jbutler

I misread your post as above. Was concerned things escalated in the past 8 hours.

 

[RowdyRawhide]

I misread your post as above. Was concerned things escalated in the past 8 hours.

Fixed the wording in my post. Wouldn't want to create mass panic

 

[kk405]

Read this brief thread specifically about Borgata $1 harvesting by the recently elusive @jbutler

https://www.pokerchipforum.com/threads/bud-jones-mixed-casino-in-the-works.10502/

Looking at those $1s, I miss the not-to-be-named GB even more now :

 

[RiverAce01]

Read this brief thread specifically about Borgata $1 harvesting by the recently elusive @jbutler

https://www.pokerchipforum.com/threads/bud-jones-mixed-casino-in-the-works.10502/

So it sounds like they really don't care. That's Atlantic City at it's truest there. Good to know I can probably just grab a rack of singles next time I'm there to play and throw them in a bag as I'm heading to a table with a barrel of 5s to play.

 

[WedgeRock]

jwho?

 

[BGinGA]

I never understood why this should be a problem at any casino. Just buy a rack from the cage and simply walk out

I agree I don't know why casinos care. You're paying for the chips and they're getting your money. And easily have the chips somewhere in the back to replace them.

Casinos care because gaming regulations require them to have control over casino-issued currency, which incidentally always remains the property of the casino -- you are essentially just renting it for use while in the casino. It's one of the reasons that they do not have a little booth set up to sell you mint chips to take home as souvenirs -- gaming regulations prohibit such sales.

Casino employees, on the other hand, will vary on how they deal with it -- and bribes (commonly referred to as tips, lol) can go a long way with some people. But knowingly 'selling' you chips to intentionally be removed from the casino violates gaming regulations, and physically removing the chips (and racks) from the casino is considered theft of casino property.

In reality, your biggest risk of sorting chips in public and walking out with your hoard is being watched and/or discovered not by a casino employee, but by a gaming commission official......who's job is to enforce those regulations. He'll be more concerned that the casino is allowing your actions than what you're actually doing.