Cash Game Do you need a $20 (or $25) cash chip? (1 Viewer)

[inca911]

This is a spinoff of the "Do you need a T500 chip" tournament thread. I've been building a few cash sets jumping straight from $5 to $100s, and thought I'd gather some opinions on the subject.

My thinking is that the $20 chip primarily stores value at the table (with the obvious exception if you are playing $20/$40). As the $20 chip is not commonly used in betting vs. use of the $5 chip, I've not seen a pressing need to fill the $20 chip spot in some of my custom sets. When a player busts out, I've been adding $100s to the table and making change from the other stacks. I've also never seen an issue or heard a player comment about the absence of the $20, either at WCB or SQM (both of which had guest sets generally without a $20 chip).

So what say you? Is there really a need for the $20 chip in a typical home game, or does the $100 serve adequately to store value at the table?

 

[moose]

You can go straight to hundos when they look like this:

 

[Payback]

I prefer 20/25s to 100 at smaller stakes and 100s at 2/5+. For me it has to do with the size of most river bets below 2/5 usually are 100 or less which is best accomplished with the 20/25. So as far as storing value I think the 100s are usually overkill. Not to mention I always felt like if people get 100s they stay in their stack and are never in play whereas if they have 4-25 chips they will get used.

 

[Rhodeman77]

I like having a $20/$25 chip. At $2/5 they get a lot of use. If you skip over the $25 chip you will need a lot more $5’s for the game to play smoothly.

Much like the arguement that using a T2000 chip requires using a lot more T500 chips.

 

[pltrgyst]

Don't need the $20/$25 if you have at least 60 $5s per player on the table, IMO.

 

[TheBigTater]

I'm deeply disturbed by the number of threads advocating less chips & fewer denominations lately.

Did the name of the forum change to lesschips.com?

 

[Payback]

Don't need the $20/$25 if you have at least 60 $5s per player on the table, IMO.

Umm.. . See below. MOAR chips!

I'm deeply disturbed by the number of threads advocating less chips & fewer denominations lately.

Did the name of the forum change to lesschips.com?

This is why I love limit games. Mountains of chips for everyone!

 

[ChaosRock]

There is no $25 chip (okay: rarely) on the $1/$3 at the Wynn. $1s, $5s and $100s only. Loads of them on $5$10 though.

It depends on the workhorse chip I guess. If there's a lot of $5s chips per player and bets are done in $5s, even if in barrels, there's no 'need' for the $25 IMO. Does it hurt the having them? No, absolutely not. And it might even be better with $25s. BUT, the need is not there.

 

[DoubleEagle]

While most $1/2 and $1/3 casino games don’t usually have many $25’s in play, the average home game at these limits would require many more $5’s than most of us want to purchase. However, I love the big mounds of $5 stacks.

 

[Rhodeman77]

for this $2/5 game I had 8 racks of $5’s in play as well as 2 racks of $25’s before I broke out the $100’s.

If we went right to $100’s the stack wouldn’t look so impressive.

 

[Marius L]

Im sure it works well without a 25$ chip, but this just requires a bigger amount of 5$ chips. I know you americans like having barrels and barrels of 5$ chips and in that case im sure its fine!

 

[upNdown]

I’m sure a $1/$2 game could be fine, if there were enough $5’s - at least as many as @pltrgyst suggested - but my favorite chip is my $20, so this idea sucks.

 

[PaulsonCollector]

I think this will lead to strange plays because players won't break their hundos. So I assume this a bad idea.

 

[Coyote]

I guess the question is culture-biased (something I do respect), because, logically, you need several denominations for economy on clay and table space on one hand, while maintaining modularity / flexibiliity.
In the same sense, why use 5s at all, when you can have mountains of racks of 1s (red if you prefer them so), or even better, trolleys of red quarters behind you.

 

[Marius L]

Here in Norway we play 10/20 with 10s and 100s. Not excactly the same but a sort of middle ground, and that works very well.

 

[CraigT78]

Of course you need a $20 chip. MOAR colors on the table!!

 

[Darthhoodie]

No you don't need any $20 chips, so you should sell them all to me

 

[Lemonzest]

20s are awesome

 

[Schmendr1ck]

1, 10, 100, 1000 - that's all you need for maximum efficiency.

For my typical game (.25/.50 big bet), I prefer having $20s or $25s for reasons already stated: it's a better size for value storage at these stakes, and players who get a hundo will NEVER EVER put it in play, so you might as well cash those out as soon as they hit the felt.

 

[k9dr]

I still like a $20 or $25 in play with hundos as needed in reserve for additional bank.

 

[BGinGA]

More chips and lots of lower denomination chips promotes action, while fewer chips and higher denomination chips inhibit it. I'm totally for having $20 (or $25 chips) in a set, but against actually ever using them in play.

 

[derekdd23]

I dont mind the jump to $100s. I have spent a decent time at the Wynn 1-3 with it being standard practice and i think it works just fine. In the local 1-2 game i play we rarely use the 25s since they dont save much if any time in bets, we generally just use 5s and 100s.

 

[Old State]

for this $2/5 game I had 8 racks of $5’s in play as well as 2 racks of $25’s before I broke out the $100’s.

If we went right to $100’s the stack wouldn’t look so impressive.

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I realize I may be in the minority here but that stack would drive me nuts whether it was mine or someone else’s. If that were my game I’d be putting the black chips in. Too much clutter

I think you absolutely need $25 (I don’t care for $20 chips) for $1/2NL+. I have enough $1s and $5s for 10 people to buyin to a $1/2 game plus a few more. After that all rebuys are handed out on $25s.

It’s true in casinos that you mostly don’t see $25 in play for $1/2nl but they have lots of chips on hands. I did witness a floor manager at the Borgata ask a player with a giant stack if he wanted to color up. It was more of a suggestion because he was knocking chips over non stop. He refused and it continued to be quite annoying to the people sitting around him.

$2/5NL games always have $25s in play

 

[abby99]

It’s true in casinos that you mostly don’t see $25 in play for $1/2nl but they have lots of chips on hands. I did witness a floor manager at the Borgata ask a player with a giant stack if he wanted to color up. It was more of a suggestion because he was knocking chips over non stop. He refused and it continued to be quite annoying to the people sitting around him.

Some players "know" that if they color up, they will start losing. Similarly, some members are convinced that they will start losing if they take a picture of their stack. Superstitions based on experience?

 

[bivey]

I look for excuses to have more chips, more types of chips, etc in my collection and on the table.

This question is preposterous Forrest! Shame!

Aaaaaaannnd my games rarely run big enough for a $100 or $20 chip.....

 

[inca911]

I've heard it said that there are no bad questions; however, I understand that asking about removing a denomination is pretty close to a bad question on a chipping board. Those 43mm chips are a tough get, so I jumped straight to $100s for my cash set. That said, I've been losing the fight against the thought that I do need to get a rack of 43mm $20s to supplement the set. This poll has pretty much confirmed what my gut was already telling me--I need more chips. I always think I need more chips....

Aaaaaaannnd my games rarely run big enough for a $100 or $20 chip.....

I can hardly wait until the Bluff City stacks start to get posted in a couple of weeks!

 

[Payback]

I've heard it sad that there are no bad questions; however, I understand that asking about removing a denomination is pretty close to a bad question on a chipping board. Those 43mm chips are a tough get, so I jumped straight to $100s for my cash set. That said, I've been losing the fight against the thought that I do need to get a rack of 43mm $20s to supplement the set. This poll has pretty much confirmed what my gut was already telling me--I need more chips. I always think I need more chips....



I can hardly wait until the Bluff City stacks start to get posted in a couple of weeks!

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Just wait for the limit game my friend. 2400 snapper chips ready for action!

 

[JustinInMN]

This is an interesting question to me. If we were talking about .25-.25 or .25-.50 it could be rephrased do I need fives, or just lots of ones with twenties?

I guess when several denoms are available you could think of ones and fives as co-workhorses.

The question is using some quanity of both the right way or is just loading up on the lower workhorse and skipping to a value-store chip better. (Limit set style.)

The latter is still a MOAR CHIPS argument.

 

[Venturalvn]

thinking is that the $20 chip primarily stores value at the table (with the obvious exception if you are playing $20/$40). As the $20 chip is not commonly used in betting vs. use of the $5 chip

I remember SPECIFICALLY losing a hand while betting 5 of these in our last game so...you take that back!

 

[Poker Zombie]

I like the $20s, and really don't see the need for hundos that often. Unless you have racks upon racks of $20s in play, the $100 is just eye candy.

But I would still get the $100s, just to be safe.

Hell... I got $500s just to be safe, and I haven't even needed to break out the $20s yet.