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CPC Move Updates (12 Viewers)

Maybe they don't want a run on the bank and that's why they cant issue refunds.
 
Giraffe before his post - "don't worry, I'll have a chat with them and calm em down. I got this"

After -
donald glover pizza GIF
 
HypothesisNo8 said:
Most banks won't let you dispute a charge over a year after it is placed. PayPal protections have long expired as well.
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Then he should explore what, if any, options are available. I’m not going to do the research for him. That’s if he is serious about it.
 
BNM said:
Yes.
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That answer was, in truth, a little un-serious, so:

Pippa said:
Are you serious?
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Does the pope wear a funny hat? What makes you think I wouldn’t be?

We all get you are frustrated. For weeks, and months now. We all also know that communication from CPC is regretfully, inexcusable very slow and spartan. He’s told us why. You’re not buying it and have thrown in the towel, which we all now know. Fine (and, thank you).

But if you thought that you’d get a refund of your money within a couple days, from a company too busy to provide consistent, basic updates for months and weeks at a time, then you’re as naive as my friend who expected a 180 degree personality change from his cheating nympho wife who told him she would stop cheating on him every time he caught her cheating on him.

If you’re really as steamed about this as you let on, contact your CC company with options. If they balk, write a letter and research other options. Or keep posting here and fuel some of the epic posts and meme game from @davislane, @chipinla, @Josh Kifer and others. This has truly been one of the funniest threads I’ve ever read through on PCF, albeit laced with disappointment as the date of my add-on order hangs in the balance.

I should add that I don’t know you, have never transacted with you and have nothing against you. And it sucks this has dragged. Not unprecedented in this history of CPC or the blue wall, though. The delay, the money up front, the sub-optimal communication; none of it is unprecedented.
 
dennis63 said:
That was Jim Blanchard's situation, and a big part of how he could afford to give quantity discounts. He didn't have a landlord. He was the landlord.
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What boggles my mind reading this thread is how many pissed people refuse to acknowledge that the equipment and building were ran into the ground and were told that many times by both owners in one way or another.
Its not the new owners fault your precious mold cant be made at a crumbling factory on broken equipment.
It is his fault for being a little too confident ignoring Murphys law. Hindsight is always 20-20
Its unfortunate he didnt cut orders off from the start on any equipment that wasn't currently running chips but he chose to try and supply as many people as he could anyways.

Hopefully whenever things get up and running we all will be able to order some cool made in USA chips even if they dont match the previous runs.
Sure beats doing what probably should have been done years ago.
Close and Firesale.
 
BNM said:
If you’re really as steamed about this as you let on, contact your CC company with options. If they balk, write a letter and research other options
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Credit card charge reversibility is time limited, likely 6 or 12 months. Wires are not. Other transfers vary (eg a vendor who accepts PayPal receiving payment via another PayPal member, so money isn’t actually moving external to the company, so internal company policy can override interbank stuff)

To really make things happen, one can learn to become a “dangerous professional” which means you take the specific highly effective action that gets an immediate reaction from your target. Whining on PCF clearly isn’t this, as much as it may sully a reputation or provide entertainment entertainment value.

@Pippa can go to any of the major AI providers and with a free account describe the transaction and subsequent events, and ask how to sue (and in which jurisdiction) and even have the basic paperwork drafted. Very routine legal action and it doesn’t require a lawyer to go to small claims court.

This paperwork can be sent via Certified Mail and there’s probably a few other steps I’m missing but an AI would be happy to fill in.

“I’m bringing you to court and it’s about 100% likely a judge will rule in my favor and and and…” or you can refund my money (to one of these listed financial accounts)

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For another “dangerous professional” example, if you ever go to the ER, say with a bad cut or a high fever or whatever… they may try to turn you away (too busy, or they don’t think your condition is an emergency…)

The normal thing is to be frustrated and shake your head as you leave. The Dangerous Professional asks politely for a written dismissal letter signed by the attending physician on duty. A secretary saying “go away” creates no paper trail, whereas the signature of the ER Doc on hospital letterhead does. It’s one of those things the hospital is required to provide, if only you knew to ask for it.

Point being, you can complain, but you can also use new tech that will within an hour and for $20 (or free) give you everything you need to bring a company to court, the credible threat of which will likely result in a same-day phone call, apology, and initiated refund.

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*edit adding in Patrick Mckenzie's own definition of Dangerous Professional, a term he coined and where I learned it:
Being a Dangerous Professional means communicating in what might be a slightly adversarial context in a way which suggests that a bureaucracy take one’s concerns seriously and escalate them to someone empowered to resolve them swiftly.
 
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BNM said:
That answer was, in truth, a little un-serious, so:


Does the pope wear a funny hat? What makes you think I wouldn’t be?

We all get you are frustrated. For weeks, and months now. We all also know that communication from CPC is regretfully, inexcusable very slow and spartan. He’s told us why. You’re not buying it and have thrown in the towel, which we all now know. Fine (and, thank you).

But if you thought that you’d get a refund of your money within a couple days, from a company too busy to provide consistent, basic updates for months and weeks at a time, then you’re as naive as my friend who expected a 180 degree personality change from his cheating nympho wife who told him she would stop cheating on him every time he caught her cheating on him.

If you’re really as steamed about this as you let on, contact your CC company with options. If they balk, write a letter and research other options. Or keep posting here and fuel some of the epic posts and meme game from @davislane, @chipinla, @Josh Kifer and others. This has truly been one of the funniest threads I’ve ever read through on PCF, albeit laced with disappointment as the date of my add-on order hangs in the balance.

I should add that I don’t know you, have never transacted with you and have nothing against you. And it sucks this has dragged. Not unprecedented in this history of CPC or the blue wall, though. The delay, the money up front, the sub-optimal communication; none of it is unprecedented.
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BNM said:
We all get you are frustrated. For weeks, and months now. We all also know that communication from CPC is regretfully, inexcusable very slow and spartan. He’s told us why. You’re not buying it and have thrown in the towel, which we all now know. Fine (and, thank you).

But if you thought that you’d get a refund of your money within a couple days, from a company too busy to provide consistent, basic updates for months and weeks at a time, then you’re as naive as my friend who expected a 180 degree personality change from his cheating nympho wife who told him she would stop cheating on him every time he caught her cheating on him.
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This doesn't really track to me. Though general public updates have been slow, I've always received responses to direct emails within a day or two. I think a reply along the lines of "okay, you'll get your refund by x date" would be the same amount of effort and therefore a reasonable expectation.
 
LAW OFFICES OF FLUSH, FULL HOUSE & ASSOCIATES
Attorneys at Law
1200 Riverboat Plaza, Suite 404
Las Vegas, Nevada 89101
Tel: (702) 555-ALLIN

March 15, 2026

Via Certified Mail, Email, and Possibly Carrier Pigeon

Classic Poker Chips
Attn: Whoever Currently Has the Keys to the Factory
Woodinville, Washington

Re: Demand for Refund – Client: Pippa (Who Is Officially Tired of Waiting)

Dear Classic Poker Chips,

Please be advised that this firm represents Pippa, a respected poker enthusiast, chip aficionado, and—until recently—a very patient customer of your establishment.

Our client placed an order for custom poker chips with your company in what historians now refer to as “The Before Times” (i.e., prior to the widely discussed relocation of your manufacturing operation). At the time of purchase, our client was under the reasonable impression that the chips would be produced sometime before the heat death of the universe.

Instead, he has since observed a series of updates regarding factory moves, machinery transport, contractor schedules, permits, and other logistical developments that, while fascinating in a “How It’s Made” documentary sort of way, have not resulted in the arrival of any poker chips.

To summarize our client’s current position:
  • The order was placed.
  • Money was paid.
  • Updates were read.
  • Memes were posted.
  • Chips were not received.
While our client appreciates that moving a legendary chip-making operation across the country is no small feat—particularly when it apparently involves forklifts, mysterious vintage machinery, and enough logistics to supply a minor moon landing—he did not intend to become a long-term investor in the CPC Infrastructure Development Fund.

At this point, our client’s patience stack is officially shorter than a $1/$2 table after three bad beats.

Accordingly, we hereby demand the following:
  1. A full refund of all monies paid by Pippa, and
  2. Confirmation that said refund has been issued within 10 business days.

Failure to comply may force our client to pursue further remedies, including but not limited to:
  • Posting mildly sarcastic comments on poker forums;
  • Deploying increasingly spicy reaction GIFs;
Our client would strongly prefer an amicable resolution so that he may return to his natural habitat: stacking beautiful clay chips and arguing about edge spots with strangers on the internet.

We look forward to your prompt response and a swift conclusion to this matter.

Respectfully,
ChipInLA, Esq. Jr. Twice Removed, the 3rd.
Senior Partner
FLUSH, FULL HOUSE & ASSOCIATES
Counsel for Pippa
Protector of Patience Stacks Everywhere
 
chipinla said:
LAW OFFICES OF FLUSH, FULL HOUSE & ASSOCIATES
Attorneys at Law
1200 Riverboat Plaza, Suite 404
Las Vegas, Nevada 89101
Tel: (702) 555-ALLIN

March 15, 2026

Via Certified Mail, Email, and Possibly Carrier Pigeon

Classic Poker Chips
Attn: Whoever Currently Has the Keys to the Factory
Woodinville, Washington

Re: Demand for Refund – Client: Pippa (Who Is Officially Tired of Waiting)

Dear Classic Poker Chips,

Please be advised that this firm represents Pippa, a respected poker enthusiast, chip aficionado, and—until recently—a very patient customer of your establishment.

Our client placed an order for custom poker chips with your company in what historians now refer to as “The Before Times” (i.e., prior to the widely discussed relocation of your manufacturing operation). At the time of purchase, our client was under the reasonable impression that the chips would be produced sometime before the heat death of the universe.

Instead, he has since observed a series of updates regarding factory moves, machinery transport, contractor schedules, permits, and other logistical developments that, while fascinating in a “How It’s Made” documentary sort of way, have not resulted in the arrival of any poker chips.

To summarize our client’s current position:
  • The order was placed.
  • Money was paid.
  • Updates were read.
  • Memes were posted.
  • Chips were not received.
While our client appreciates that moving a legendary chip-making operation across the country is no small feat—particularly when it apparently involves forklifts, mysterious vintage machinery, and enough logistics to supply a minor moon landing—he did not intend to become a long-term investor in the CPC Infrastructure Development Fund.

At this point, our client’s patience stack is officially shorter than a $1/$2 table after three bad beats.

Accordingly, we hereby demand the following:
  1. A full refund of all monies paid by Pippa, and
  2. Confirmation that said refund has been issued within 10 business days.

Failure to comply may force our client to pursue further remedies, including but not limited to:
  • Posting mildly sarcastic comments on poker forums;
  • Deploying increasingly spicy reaction GIFs;
Our client would strongly prefer an amicable resolution so that he may return to his natural habitat: stacking beautiful clay chips and arguing about edge spots with strangers on the internet.

We look forward to your prompt response and a swift conclusion to this matter.

Respectfully,
ChipInLA, Esq. Jr. Twice Removed, the 3rd.
Senior Partner
FLUSH, FULL HOUSE & ASSOCIATES
Counsel for Pippa
Protector of Patience Stacks Everywhere
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Re: Response to Demand for Refund – Client: Pippa

Counter-Notice and Potential Counterclaim

Dear Counsel,

We acknowledge receipt of your correspondence regarding your client, Pippa, whose patience stack you have described as “officially shorter than a $1/$2 table after three bad beats.” We appreciate the colorful legal drafting and can confirm it was read aloud in our shop, where it briefly delayed forklift operations due to laughter.

First and foremost, Classic Poker Chips recognizes and appreciates the enthusiasm of our customers—particularly those who care deeply enough about clay compression, edge spot alignment, and mold authenticity to retain legal representation.

However, while your letter demands a refund, it unfortunately fails to account for the considerable and measurable damages incurred by Classic Poker Chips as a result of your client’s conduct during this process.

Specifically, we are evaluating a reverse claim against Pippa for the following:

1. Excessive Forum Speculation

Your client has, on multiple occasions, engaged in speculative discussion regarding production timelines, equipment relocation, and the operational status of our machinery.

This activity has resulted in measurable increases in:
  • Customer email volume
  • Internal meme generation
  • The phrase “Are the presses running yet?” appearing in our inbox approximately 47 times per week.

2. Emotional Distress to Vintage Machinery

The historic chip presses currently undergoing careful recommissioning in our facility were manufactured during an era when machinery expected respect and quiet patience.

We have reason to believe that repeated public questioning of their readiness has caused at least one press to develop what our technicians describe as “performance anxiety.”

3. Unauthorized Patience Stack Manipulation

Your letter repeatedly references the depletion of Pippa’s patience stack.

Classic Poker Chips maintains that patience stacks, once voluntarily placed into play during a factory relocation of this magnitude, are non-refundable and subject to normal variance.

4. Pre-Mature Meme Deployment

While memes are an essential part of poker culture, deploying them prior to the completion of a cross-country factory move may constitute Bad Beat Prematurity, a tort recognized informally in several online communities.


Proposed Resolution

Despite the above, Classic Poker Chips remains committed to an amicable solution.

We therefore propose the following settlement:
  1. Pippa agrees to temporarily suspend sarcastic forum commentary regarding forklifts, machinery, and the space-time continuum of chip production.
  2. Classic Poker Chips agrees to continue doing the extremely complicated thing we are currently doing: building a fully operational clay chip manufacturing facility from the ground up.
  3. Upon completion, Pippa will receive the chips he ordered—at which point he may once again resume arguing about edge spots on the internet.

Should your client continue to pursue refund demands, Classic Poker Chips reserves the right to move forward with its counterclaim for:

Interference with a Historical Manufacturing Operation, Reckless Meme Endangerment, and Disturbing the Peace of Several Very Old Machines.

We trust cooler heads—and properly aligned edge spots—will prevail.

Respectfully,

Classic Poker Chips
Legal Department (Temporary)
Woodinville, Washington

P.S. Please inform your client that the presses have been assured the internet is rooting for them. This has reportedly improved morale.
 
Classic_Giraffe said:
Hello everyone,

My name is Max, and I wanted to take a moment to introduce myself and provide an update regarding our current progress.

My wife and I both work at CPC, and we recently moved from Maine to Washington to continue our work here. My wife has been with CPC for over twenty years, and through her—and many of the long-time CPC crew back in Maine—I’ve learned a great deal about the work, the process, and the community around it. I’m very grateful for the knowledge and support that has been shared along the way.

First, I want to apologize for the delay in updates. A significant amount of repair, replacement, and infrastructure work has been happening behind the scenes, and we’ve been focused on getting everything properly set up.

At the moment, we have the boiler and chiller in place, and the mill and machines are in place, however we are waiting on the steam connection. We’ve also been working on updating and repairing equipment, including new plumbing and electrical work, to make sure everything is safe and operating correctly before production begins.

The current timeline is unfortunately not entirely in our control. We are currently waiting on landlord approvals, which typically take 24–48 hours once submitted. After that approval, the plumbing work will take approximately 2–3 weeks to complete. Once that stage is finished, we should be able to move toward becoming operational.

Because of these circumstances, we are not currently taking any new orders. Our priority will be completing existing orders first, and once we are fully up and running, we will announce when we are able to begin accepting new orders again.

Much of the delay has come down to boiler installation requirements, permits, and landlord approvals, which unfortunately affects the timeline more than we would like. We truly appreciate everyone’s patience while these steps are completed.

We’re looking forward to getting everything running as soon as possible, and we’re excited to move forward once the remaining work is finished.

I’ll also be sharing photos showing the progress of the setup and improvements, so everyone can see how things are coming along.

Thank you again for your patience and support—we truly appreciate it.


Yours truly,

Classic_Giraffe
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That's some power! These guys are generating at least 200,000 pounds of pressure!
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Just look at the thickness of this slab!!
How do they manage not to flatten the chip matrices themselves?
 
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