This seems correct. It’s in your own interest to deal fairly here, too.
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Well...maybe at the time it was controversial. I'm sure when he proposed his idea someone was like, "You wanna put a fucking camera where? To see my fucking hole cards? Are you fucking nuts?"
Once the deal was over I probably would have flipped the guy a few hundred but even then it’s such a steal lol
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Yeah I think that’s the move. I get it if someone doesn’t have the money too of course.
It’s funny, 2 sides of the same coin. Seems the chipper nightmare is chips ending up in a garage sale, and the chipper dream is finding chips in a garage sale.
My nana is currently liquidating all the extra stuff in her house. Sold off a couple thousand in coins, got rid of the 30 years of tools and buildup in their garage, has someone coming to the house now to look at the Barbie’s and collection.
She’s getting thousands and is ecstatic, and she’s not dumb, but she’s definitely giving up a ton of money on the tools, chests, etc. People that come work on the house and stuff, she’s just like sure you can take this or that I guess.
Idk, again not trying to be the moral police, but I’d prefer my nana to not get “taken”. It’s interesting to balance that with the chipping zenith of getting a steal on chips from someone who doesn’t know what they have.
Kudos to our forum, it does seem like very often chippers do mention something regarding the chips being worth someone and often offering a bit more than the listed price.
I’ve mostly bought and sold drum gear over the years, and I’ve never gotten the “I must sell this item I’ve had for 15 years for MAXIMUM VALUE” mindset.
I paid a price for the item, I got use out of it, someone else can have it for less than “market value.” I may be a sucker, but it’s a pretty relaxing way of moving on from stuff I no longer need/want.
Seeing people happy to have a new toy also pays my soul. I’m sure your nana feels similarly.
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You’re not wrong!
It’s a money thing, so she def wants what can get for all the collectibles and such.
The tools and garage, she knows there’s money but doesn’t care. Grandfather passed away years ago and there’s no sentimental value, so she’s enjoying seeing all the various things go to people and workers that would use em.
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When my dad passed a few years ago he had a side hustle woodworking (cornhole boards, shit old people put in their gardens, etc). My siblings took what we thought we would ever use, and sold the rest of the stuff. We had a good idea on market value for everything, and we weren't making it back. My dad accumulated shit over the years through yard sales and fb marketplace, so there were a few instances of karma coming back around with giving a few guys great prices on tools that would be put to good use.
Seemed like a fitting tribute to him.
Shit I'm off topic...need to find a controversial opinion...
As an outsider:
@BarrieJ3's posts are not nearly as controversial as everyone makes them out to be, and @BarrieJ3 overreacts to the couple haters that he has. There, that should do it.
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Controversial Opinion:
Home game thread pics of just chips are boring.
I know this is pokerchipforum.com, but like, how many hundreds of thousands of photos of all the same chips on repeat do we need?
The posts are more entertaining when we see the spread, the setup, the players, the cats and fun stories. Give us a little more people!
Home game thread pics of just chips are boring.
I know this is pokerchipforum.com, but like, how many hundreds of thousands of photos of all the same chips on repeat do we need?
The posts are more entertaining when we see the spread, the setup, the players, the cats and fun stories. Give us a little more people!
Funny because the Home Game Pics Thread is about the only one I post on.
Just kidding but seriously anytime someone starts leaving a Ben Book there I just skip ahead to the next pic because I don't have time to read all that. What you said is noted though & when I'm drunk at 3am making my weekly post I'll try to remember why I took a picture like this in the 1st place:
How's this for bad timing? @Monaco trying to get a 7-2 thru @sethwanab's flopped Flush draw/Top Pair. (Yes I deal left handed people so the Board goes right to left) Monaco kept bluffing and eventually lost his stack to a Nut Flush that improved to a Royal! As a person who loves to play 7-2 even during a tournament this was just BRUTAL to watch.
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Okay. I dare you to start a "Poker Chips On Your Wife" pic thread.
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You take your pics pretty serious. They’re entertaining usually, at least there’s some added juice from having gifs or extra stuff.
Some of its repeat sure, but sometimes there’s added/new stuff.
Its the controversial opinion thread, so looks like I’m on to something?
I compare it to people who tell bad beat stories in person.
It’s a table, a felt, and chips. Which is cool. But it’s the same table, felt, and chips that were shown the previous 250 times someone posted.
lol, people could just rotate the same 20 photos on a carousel for years and no one would ever notice.
Everyone says they like home games for the fun, atmosphere, laughs. Let’s see some of that!
Personally, when I’m enjoying the fun, atmosphere, and laughs, I rarely think to take pictures.
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What happened to the good old days where you figure out a price for your chips and list them for sale… I don’t even give a shit if they are over priced like that idot trying to sell classics for a fortune that never moves…
Seems like every other post now is a damn auction. You know what you paid, do some research and list the damn things! If it’s super rare I understand and believe that is exactly what auctions are for… but regular old damn chips we see listed all the time?
Another thing… if you are going to do an auction start it at $1… not 99% of the value and hope you can squeeze an extra nickel out of someone! It’s not 2020 any more, the market is saturated! Awesome chips at amazing prices just sitting and getting bumped over and over… this is DEFINITELY not the time to try and get max value! Value them appropriately and let the market decide if you are In the right ball park!
“Old man yelling at clouds in training right here!”
Seems like every other post now is a damn auction. You know what you paid, do some research and list the damn things! If it’s super rare I understand and believe that is exactly what auctions are for… but regular old damn chips we see listed all the time?
Another thing… if you are going to do an auction start it at $1… not 99% of the value and hope you can squeeze an extra nickel out of someone! It’s not 2020 any more, the market is saturated! Awesome chips at amazing prices just sitting and getting bumped over and over… this is DEFINITELY not the time to try and get max value! Value them appropriately and let the market decide if you are In the right ball park!
“Old man yelling at clouds in training right here!”
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Hand me a pitchfork and a drink. I’m ready for a solid threadjacking pitchforking session.
Jacking and forking. I’m in.
Ben8257
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You’re lucky… I was going to end my rant with… “ AND I hope Jeff and I can make the 3rd denim to our sexy chip set at Dans meet up!” Not joking
#butterysinglet team fo life!
BPTDirector
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I recently had no problem selling chips for what they are worth. I’m really close to chip retirement. I’m ready to enjoy everything I have and stop yearning. Chips, check. Table, check. Chairs, check. Shuffler, check.
I’m ready to be done. It’s been a long 15 years getting here.
I’m ready to be done. It’s been a long 15 years getting here.
Let’s goooooo!
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I’m warming up, ready to post!
Admins and mods around the world just got a shiver down their spine.
drdr
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Maybe a dumb question. What is this 'chip retirement '? Seen it reverently posted a few times.
After beating the final boss, you reach Nirvana. It’s nice.
I mentioned it recently. I think it generally means that you don’t feel like buying any more sets.
Personally it means that I’ve probably owned 20 sets over the years, of different materials, different manufacturers, and different molds. I’ve figured out what I like, I love what I have, and I’m not really a collector, so I’m good.
Moxie Mike
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I think it's more about hedging against being forced to sell at a price that's well below market value if the bidding doesn't swell. It's not like an eBay auction where a reserve can be set.
I agree though. The low starting bid draws people in... then FOMO/Competitiveness kicks in and no one wants to lose.
There was a fundamental shift in chipping around 5 years ago. I don't know about other community based collectibles markets but it seemed like there was a level of comradery that superseded the need for immediate profitability. Dudes didn't seem to hesitate to release something that someone else needed for the price they paid or damn near.
But something changed. The culture shifted and now everyone needs to collect top dollar - not out of greed but because of the basic tenets of supply and demand. You HAVE to collect max value as a seller because you're going to be subjected to the same market conditions as a buyer.
I think a lot of people are 'retiring' because the cost of the pursuit has become too high. So guys are getting their sets they way they want them and calling it a day. Kind of a bummer but that's the nature of a hobby where scarcity rules supreme.
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Also economy bad…. But I think this ^^^ is a big big part of it. It’s tough to give out favors and not get them back. It also links to the conversation that’s been had many times about people who take advantage of new members to move chips above “market value.” Not everyone is nice and not everyone who is nice is going to be nice to you.
Joe isn’t going to care that you gave Todd a discount and just because you hear he treats friends well doesn’t mean you’re going to get that same treatment.
I try to be generally pretty easy and friendly to transact with… and ya, I’ve been hurt when some (inc. active long time) members haven’t done the same but I can’t do anything about it. But if you operate within a constrained chipping budget and feel you got fucked on a deal then you can feel inclined to make back some of that loss on the next one.
There’s certainly an in-crowd where transacting can probably be relied upon to be sunshine and roses. And many in that crowd are very active so it can look like it happens that way a lot. I don’t think it does.
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Everything is nuance. That's the fun, we get to talk in circles, hear other points of view we didn't think, some folks play devil's advocate, etc. But it's hard in discussions where everything is so nuanced.
Sure, there was a change in people's approach to "needing" profit or tradebait. There was always a need for that before, so why the shift........
I don't think it's as simple as we used to be family and now we're strangers. There's a million fun little straw that broke the camel's back reasons that may have helped.
Sure, there was a change in people's approach to "needing" profit or tradebait. There was always a need for that before, so why the shift........
I don't think it's as simple as we used to be family and now we're strangers. There's a million fun little straw that broke the camel's back reasons that may have helped.
- OGs taking off with highly sought after chips in not small collections, heightens scarcity.
- TheChipRoom sales becoming far less of a deal, so much so that people struggle to sell at original TCR pricing, plus it becomes extremely apparent that TCR is helping specific people with all the best/mint chips before releasing to the public. Sure kills any anti flipper and community first sentiments surrounding those amazing sales.
- More members from all walks of life, including "whales". I have no ill will towards those folks, it's awesome! They come in and want what they want now, and the only thing that can do that is $. The downside is the whales that are happy to far and away overpay compared to market value, and then expect the majority of that $ back, bumping their overpriced threads for weeks, months, etc.
- PCF rules that no one can comment on any classified other than glws, there being not one function here that ties together any type of pricing transparency/trends, etc. When it was a more community first sentiment, this wasn't a huge shortcoming. Add in constant group buys, chip finds, everyone holding mint chip sets for decades, and a huge uptick in members, now suddenly having built a "forum" with almost 0 transparency, rules, or regulations regarding the marketplace/commerce side, and there's issues - go figure
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I can't do it. Lol people don't realize idc that much and generally they're only getting like 10% of the Barrie experience. I can only post the nice fluff like above and what I've posted for the past recent months and years.
I need a burner PCF account.
You'll know it's me when you see the account start posting anonymous polls. "I don't think poker players are as generous as chippers make each other out to be. How much do you normally tip on a family/friends night out?" or "Rate your top 10 home games and meetups in order" or "Which chippers do you think are most accustomed to using a hard "r"? Vote below and lets make them sell us their chips!"
I mean, they're jokes...but I wouldn't mind sitting back and watching the shenanigans unfold......
drdr
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Good controversial opinion.
Lee Marvin "Paint Your Wagon" 1969:
"You don't have to love thy neighbor. You leave the bastard alone".
Lee Marvin "Paint Your Wagon" 1969:
"You don't have to love thy neighbor. You leave the bastard alone".
HelloGamer2
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It looks like to me that $20 chips fit great into .25/.50 games, work fine in .50/1 games, and slightly slow down 1/2 games
So following the above logic, do you want your small stakes games to run smoother or your normal stakes game to run smoother?
@Machine what’s your opinion on this one?
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