Chips without numbers? (1 Viewer)

[mll_maid]

Hi all, I am about to design my first set for a micro-stakes home game. 0.05$, 0.25$, 1$, 5$, 25$. I am tempted to go without numbers since the design might look nicer. I'd give the different values by having different colors and different letters as inlay. Do you think it's a no-go to not have number values? Appreciate opinions!

 

[UniLover]

Many chips have no denominations, or commonly referred to as "NCV", as in no cash value. The nice thing is as your game grows, if it does, you don't need new chips. Just associate new values.

 

[mipevi]

It really depends on what you want, but also your players. Having the denominations on the chips leaves no doubt what the value of each chip is. Based on my experience some players can have a hard time remembering LOL… I think non-denominated chips have a bit of an old-school home game vibe, which when done right can be cool.

Just to clarify @UniLover , NCV is very different from non-denoms, common misconception that keeps coming up year after year. For example you can have tournament chips with denominations, but being tournament chips they would be NCV since they have no actual cash value.

 

[UniLover]

It really depends on what you want, but also your players. Having the denominations on the chips leaves no doubt what the value of each chip is. Based on my experience some players can have a hard time remembering LOL… I think non-denominated chips have a bit of an old-school home game vibe, which when done right can be cool.

Just to clarify @UniLover , NCV is very different from non-denoms, common misconception that keeps coming up year after year. For example you can have tournament chips with denominations, but being tournament chips they would be NCV since they have no actual cash value.

Ah yes sorry, I keep referring to say, Tiger Palace NCVs as NCVs when in reality they should be non-denoms.

 

[doublebooyah85]

My hot stamp set may not have denominations. But I’m also going traditional colors.

I also play a big game that uses starbursts with no denominations. If the $5 is red, green is $25 and black is $100. Pretty standard!

Micro stakes may get pretty iffy at first but if you have the same players everytime and maybe something posted so they don’t forget I think you could get away with it.

What colors will the nickel and quarter be? And $1?

 

[LeLe]

It depending what colour ur using to represent what denominations

If you using a common scheme like White = $1 Red = $5 Green = $25 Black =100, people can get use to using that

If you using a weird scheme like Red = $1 White = $5 Black = $25 Blue = $100 for example, you will just be generating unnecessary problem

 

[detroitdad]

Nothing wrong with that. Your set, do it how you want.

 

[mipevi]

@UniLover no problem at all! There are indeed some examples of cash game chips that have NCV written on them, which should never be the case since all cash game chips do have a cash value, regardless whether they are denominated or not.

 

[detroitdad]

I have no qualms about using this set for my cash game

 

[upNdown]

The reason I ended up at PCF was that I was looking for chips with numbers on them. It’s the simplest thing you can do to separate yourself from cheap home game dice chips. And it can make a big difference - no more putting up a sign saying how much each color is worth. Casinos don’t have cash games with chips without numbers on them, why should you?
If you somehow ended up with chips without numbers on them, sure, you could make it work. But designing a cash set without numbers? I think that’s a big mistake.

 

[detroitdad]

It’s the simplest thing you can do to separate yourself from cheap home game dice chip

I disagree. See above set. Nothing about that says "cheap"

no more putting up a sign saying how much each color is worth.

If your players are idiots, then yes, a sign would be necessary. If you are playing with a halfway intelligent group that can remember three to four colors then all should be good.

Casinos don’t have cash games with chips without numbers on them, why should you?

There are a lot of things that casinos do that I don't do when running my game. Fuck casinos.

I think that’s a big mistake.

wrong again

 

[doublebooyah85]

I have no qualms about using this set for my cash game

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Everytime you post this ur gonna get a

DOUBLE BOOYAH

 

[upNdown]

I disagree. See above set. Nothing about that says "cheap"



If your players are idiots, then yes, a sign would be necessary. If you are playing with a halfway intelligent group that can remember three to four colors then all should be good.



There are a lot of things that casinos do that I don't do when running my game. Fuck casinos.



wrong again

Hey I don’t blame you for using those tigers. You stumble upon an amazing set like that, you give it a shot, no doubt.
But I’ve followed your sets over the years. You buy and sell a lot. And I can’t remember you ever having another undenominated cash set. So if your cash sets have always had numbers on them, the ones you’ve bought and the ones you’ve custom designed, doesn’t that say something?

 

[bsdunbar1]

If your players are idiots, then yes, a sign would be necessary. If you are playing with a halfway intelligent group that can remember three to four colors then all should be good.

 

[bsdunbar1]

Personally I would never design a set without denominations.

 

[w00zie]

Personally I would never design a set without denominations.

I agree. I like the idea of having a non-denom frac though that can be used as dime/quarter/half dollar.

 

[KHarp1]

I have no qualms about using this set for my cash game

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Are you sure? The second you start having qualms you should send them to Louisville where me and a team of experts (experts at what I couldn't tell you!) will study them to find the root cause of the qualms.

 

[ekricket]

If your players are idiots, then yes, a sign would be necessary. If you are playing with a halfway intelligent group that can remember three to four colors then all should be good.

Cmon. We can’t make an orbit at a meetup without four people asking “what game are we playing” let alone what the value of the chips are. Hell half the attendees couldn’t tell you what city they were in after day one.

 

[KHarp1]

I'm going to double post here...

If money is a issue when purchasing a nicer set of chips, then I can understand the desire to not have denoms, however, the likelihood of the $1, $5, $20/$25 and $100 values changing, or, becoming obsolete are pretty slim (to none) so
those chips are great candidates for values. The frac (.01-.99) can change depending on the game and group playing, so that's the ideal chip to have no denominations. But, you mentioned that the design looks better without denominations, so in that case you can do one of a couple of things. You can do what you suggested and go with no printed denominations, or, post a mockup of your design and let the good folks here share their thoughts on how to work denoms in.

 

[BPTDirector]

Both my first two custom sets do not have numbers. My players have never had a problem and I do not think my chips look cheap. Judge for yourself.

You do you!!

 

[allforcharity]

In general:

Having denoms >>>>>>>>>>>> not having denoms.

I'm all for clarity as much as I am all for charity.

 

[jpietrella]

Designing an entire set with no numbers seems like the craziest thing I've seen here. Hard pass.

 

[LeLe]

Whole set with no denomination is almost certainly a bad idea, the only exception is Limit Set

Limit Set actually work better without denomination.

 

[HughDrackman]

If it’s purely a design issue and not a preference, depending on the kind of chip (ceramic vs. CPC), you could always have your design on one side and the denomination on the other side. That, or post your design to the forum and get feedback on how to incorporate the denoms into the design.

 

[BGinGA]

Hi all, I am about to design my first set for a micro-stakes home game. 0.05$, 0.25$, 1$, 5$, 25$. I am tempted to go without numbers since the design might look nicer. I'd give the different values by having different colors and different letters as inlay. Do you think it's a no-go to not have number values? Appreciate opinions!

gtfo

 

[bsdunbar1]

If it’s purely a design issue and not a preference, depending on the kind of chip (ceramic vs. CPC), you could always have your design on one side and the denomination on the other side. That, or post your design to the forum and get feedback on how to incorporate the denoms into the design.

 

[dpeks13]

I prefer denoms because we usually have a few not-so-regulars showing up every so often, so it makes it easier for them. I do appreciate the versatility of not having them on there though. Like all things on this site, depends on the crowd you're playing with.

 

[andrebttx]

I agree. I like the idea of having a non-denom frac though that can be used as dime/quarter/half dollar.

Yes - I’ve come around to liking this kind of design a lot (enough so that I’m using it on my next set). Denominations on most chips, but having one non-denomination chip that can serve as a flex slot depending on how the game will run that day. For instance, it can serve as a nickel when I’m just playing Tripoley with the family, and then as 50¢ for 50¢ / $1 Limit nights.

 

[glynn]

I like the idea of having a non-denom frac though that can be used as dime/quarter/half dollar.

You're not afraid that your players will keel over and shit themselves because there is not a number on it?

 

[JStew]

Nope. I wouldn’t do it. It might work out well if you don’t allow drinking at your games.…