Cash chips vs tournament chips (2 Viewers)

[BigRyan]

Afternoon,

I’ve seen a lot of discussion on having two sets a cash and tourney set. Does everyone typically use a more expensive set for cash?

I’ve got a 500pc Monte Carlo set and for my second set looking at Taj Mahal or Pharos. Waiting on samples from both but wanted to hear some thoughts. Thanks

 

[Tonystark137]

Not particularly, my sets tend to get more expensive as I upgrade. Currently the tournament set is more expensive than my cash chips.

 

[Colquhoun]

If you can only afford to have one premium set, make it the one you'll use more often...tournament or cash makes no difference.

 

[ChipTalker]

I think it varies, for me the answer is yes typically more expensive cash set because less chips.
I do cheaper tournament sets for 40+ people vs 10-20 cash players.

 

[philhut]

My tournament sets are all now 36mm NCV.... all of the cash chips are 39mm (some 43mm). It is obvious by size what is a cash chip and what is a NCV chip.

As for cost, the 36mms were definitely cheaper per chip than most others

 

[Tonystark137]

You could just scale your tournament chips for cash (Not recommended for when you have a tournament and cash game) use the 25 chip for $.25, 100 chip for $1

 

[springbox]

Whichever set you use more, you should put more consideration into. That may mean it's more expensive, but it doesn't necessarily have to be. My cash set is more expensive than my tournament because I went clay for cash and ceramic for tournament, but the cash set definitely sees more use.

 

[allforcharity]

On average, my tournament sets and cash sets have roughly equal acquisition costs on a per chip basis.

Unfortunately.

 

[Bacon Dad]

My tournament sets are all now 36mm NCV.... all of the cash chips are 39mm (some 43mm). It is obvious by size what is a cash chip and what is a NCV chip.

As for cost, the 36mms were definitely cheaper per chip than most others

Would love to see pics of your 36mm sets.

 

[Bacon Dad]

You could just scale your tournament chips for cash (Not recommended for when you have a tournament and cash game) use the 25 chip for $.25, 100 chip for $1

@BigRyan
No matter what you do, I would only view this as a temporary fix until you get a second set. And by then, you may figure out that you only do cash games.

And you know what THAT means, don’tcha?!?!

You look for an even nicer cash set that maybe expands your range of playable stakes.

 

[BGinGA]

I tend to make a cash set more secure, which may (or may not) end up making it more expensive.

 

[Eriks]

Only reason I see (other than financial) to spend less on the tourney set, is that there are likely less regulars and more casual players attending tournies (”can I bring Joe from work?). Thus increasing the risk of letting brutes who will treat chips recklessly near your clay babies.

 

[philhut]

Would love to see pics of your 36mm sets.

I need to do some family photos of the whole sets but these are the 3 I am currently in possession of. No I am not selling any barrels or racks unless you want to make an offer on the whole set, not a big seller.

#1 Horse Shoe Cincinnati (secondary)

#2 Majestic Star (coloured label, this pic +another identical set double the amount.

#3 Majestic Star (primaries), this set is my largest and there are still some racks to clean before all can be grouped together, over 4000 pieces.

36mm is the little King.....less common and the lower two sets are leaded.

 

[NotRealNameNoSir]

Only reason I see (other than financial) to spend less on the tourney set, is that there are likely less regulars and more casual players attending tournies (”can I bring Joe from work?). Thus increasing the risk of letting brutes who will treat chips recklessly near your clay babies.

100%. I value bringing in as many people as possible for tournaments and I don't trust them to not use them as coasters lol. Tournaments are inclusive! Cash is a privilege.

 

[Bacon Dad]

I need to do some family photos of the whole sets but these are the 3 I am currently in possession of. No I am not selling any barrels or racks unless you want to make an offer on the whole set, not a big seller.

#1 Horse Shoe Cincinnati (secondary)
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#2 Majestic Star (coloured label, this pic +another identical set double the amount.
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#3 Majestic Star (primaries), this set is my largest and there are still some racks to clean before all can be grouped together, over 4000 pieces.
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36mm is the little King.....less common and the lower two sets are leaded.

Very nice! Thanks for sharing.

Would you have preferred a set to be hot stamps versus the white inlays and/or stickers? Are they called labels or stickers?? I can never get that straight.

The Horseshoe Cincy look amazing with the matching colors.

 

[philhut]

Very nice! Thanks for sharing.

Would you have preferred a set to be hot stamps versus the white inlays and/or stickers? Are they called labels or stickers?? I can never get that straight.

The Horseshoe Cincy look amazing with the matching colors.

I bought the Horseshoe Cincinnati to pair with the Horseshoe them of my HSI cash set. I have a long history with horses, riding etc so those chips were a natural draw for me.
I like the labels on the chips, a hot stamp would be interesting but challenging for space on 36mm. My big reason for liking them is size. They are so obviously different than my 39-43mm cash chip that no errors could happen of cross over where tourney/cash play occurs on the same day/place. You feel like you have more space on the table. Also the ladies love them, fits in their hands, plus more wives/girlfriends seem to play in tournaments than cash. The biggest factor of all was cost, I doubt there are many cheaper Paulson sets out there. Most of the Majestic Stars were just 50 cents each.

 

[MeridianFC]

I tend to make a cash set more secure, which may (or may not) end up making it more expensive.

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[GreekRedEye]

More secure means custom. And custom ceramics are much more affordable than custom clays from CPC. Custom ceramics are usually cheaper than used clays that you custom relabel.

For reasons I can't articulate, I prefer ceramics for tourney sets and clay for cash sets. Although, I do own a clay tourney set.

 

[krafticus]

My tournaments are 3x larger than my cash game; thus, my tournament sets always cost more than my cash sets.

 

[BPTDirector]

On a per chip basis both types of chips cost about the same in my sets, but tournament sets are generally larger so cost overall more.

 

[Yahooligan]

You could just scale your tournament chips for cash (Not recommended for when you have a tournament and cash game) use the 25 chip for $.25, 100 chip for $1

I was planning on doing exactly this. Any issue from others?

 

[Postoakpoker]

I was planning on doing exactly this. Any issue from others?

If you play with a regular group of good friends for very small stakes, shouldn't be an issue. If you're playing with unknowns and/or larger stakes I'd recommend never playing with the same set of chips for both tournaments & cash games.

 

[tabletalker7]

I was planning on doing exactly this. Any issue from others?

The issue is security. Most of us will play cash and tournament on the same night. By having completely different sets, a person can't try to cash in a tournament chip and vice versa. I am not saying that someone in your games will try to cheat you, I am just saying that mistakes do happen. By having separate sets, that particular mistake can not happen.

 

[upNdown]

Historically speaking, yes, tournament sets are often cheaper than cash sets. At least for casinos. You’ll see plenty of solid hot stamped tournament chips when the casino uses spotted inlays for cash. We even saw a trend of 36 mm chips for tournaments but never cash, to my knowledge. And some big casinos which use clay Paulsons for cash sets will have some ceramic tournament sets. So yeah, it’s very common for tournament sets to be cheaper than cash sets, at least for casinos.
There are plenty of PCFers who will use high denom casino cash chips for their tournaments. Since the higher denoms are usually more scarce, they’re usually more expensive. So it’s not uncommon for PCFers to have more expensive chips for tournaments. But PCFers are weirdos.

 

[SavageLizard]

The issue is security. Most of us will play cash and tournament on the same night. By having completely different sets, a person can't try to cash in a tournament chip and vice versa. I am not saying that someone in your games will try to cheat you, I am just saying that mistakes do happen. By having separate sets, that particular mistake can not happen.

It really just depends on your game. Our cash game is low enough that we don’t get into the $25 chips much, if at all. When I cash everyone out, I just rack them afterward and it’s easy to see if anything is missing. Then when we do the tournament to end the night, I bust out the higher denoms starting with $25’s, which as stated previously most likely didn’t make it onto the table earlier. And when the tournament is done I rack everything up and again, it’s easy to see if anything is missing.

I have been doing games with various people for decades, never had a chip go missing. Have been short once or twice when I racked up, and we’ve always found the missing chip on the floor.

Of course, if you run a bigger game than I do, you might have more opportunities for overlap. Again, I think it depends on your stakes and how you run things.

 

[Yahooligan]

It really just depends on your game. Our cash game is low enough that we don’t get into the $25 chips much, if at all. When I cash everyone out, I just rack them afterward and it’s easy to see if anything is missing. Then when we do the tournament to end the night, I bust out the higher denoms starting with $25’s, which as stated previously most likely didn’t make it onto the table earlier. And when the tournament is done I rack everything up and again, it’s easy to see if anything is missing.

I have been doing games with various people for decades, never had a chip go missing. Have been short once or twice when I racked up, and we’ve always found the missing chip on the floor.

Of course, if you run a bigger game than I do, you might have more opportunities for overlap. Again, I think it depends on your stakes and how you run things.

This is good to hear - I was planning on doing exactly this - even ordering quantities of 100s so that the colors were even more obvious to fit into the rack - the fact that you've done this for a while without issue is the icing on the cake. Thanks.

 

[oMo]

Is it possible to combine cash and Tournament Sets?
Just asking for a Friend ^^

 

[Postoakpoker]

Is it possible to combine cash and Tournament Sets?
Just asking for a Friend ^^

There are many threads, including this one, with answers to this question.

Short answer, yes it's possible. Only recommended if you are playing for low stakes and with good friends who you trust. Otherwise I would have separate sets of tournament & cash chips.

 

[allforcharity]

Is it possible to combine cash and Tournament Sets?
Just asking for a Friend ^^

Possible but not usually recommended. Hard to get the breakdown just right, to balance the efficiency of tourney with flexibility of cash (depending on stakes).